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    Salam/Peace brother Wakas. I have this received from brother Quran Centric when i asked him about the root definition of Salat. This is what he showed. I hope you can add this in PRL - Project Root-List.
    I think it's from http//www.baheth.info/ or http//lisaan.net/

    P.S The image is big.

    https//i.imgur.com/XLs5Vxn.jpg

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      Salam/Peace. There is a word i found in 2718 which is wâdi (واد) which is from WAW-DAL-YA but it's missing it's meaning in PRL.

      Waw-Dal-Ya = to pay the blood money, pay a fine as expiation for human life, compensate for murder.

      diyah n.f. 492, 492

      wadi (pl. awdiyah) 9121, 1317, 1437, 2012, 26225, 2718, 2830, 4624, 7916, 899

      Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 305 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=wdy

      In Lane's Lexicon i found this

      https//i.imgur.com/VPxZa3C.png

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        Salam/Peace everyone.

        I found the word baAAda (بعد) which is a accusative time adverb and i checked the root word in PRL and that's Ba-Ayn-Dal and it seems the meaning "after" seems to be missing

        Ba-Ayn-Dal = becoming distant, remote, far off, aloof or far away, removed, retired, withdrew to a distance, alienated, estranged, wide separation, great distance. Possessing judgment and prudence, penetrating, effective judgment, depth or far reaching judgment. Go or going a great length or far in hostility.

        ba'uda vb. (1)
        perf. act. 942, ba'ida 1195
        n.vb. 1144, 1160, 1168, 1195, 2341, 2344, 4338

        ba'id n.m. 2176, 330, 460, 4116, 4136, 4167, 1183, 1189, 143, 1418, 21109, 2212, 2253, 2512, 2722, 348, 3452, 3453, 4144, 4152, 4218, 503, 5027, 5031, 706

        ba'ada vb. (3) impv. 3419

        ab'ada vb. (4) pcple. pass. 21101

        LL, V1, p 261, 262, 263 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=b3d

        I found the meaning "after" in Lane's Lexicon in http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000262.pdf

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          Words from this Root in the Grand Qur?n

          a) Total occurrences 235

          b) No of constructions 28

          It occurs in 221 Ayahs in 56 Sura.

          Nouns 25 Recurrence 232; Verbs 3

          . .

          That it is contra. of nearness and proximity; and opposite to before, earlier; and annihilation.

          Semantic domain Time-frame ? Later

          It is used to mention an event taking place later than another event; something remaining, Time adverb http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.027/03.%20Baad%20Ba%20Ain%20Daal/6.gif is always in construct.

          http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.027/03.%20Baad%20Ba%20Ain%20Daal/12.gif It is adverb of place distance - distant http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.027/03.%20Baad%20Ba%20Ain%20Daal/15.gif far

          http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(121).htm

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            Salam/Peace brother Wakas, you should add a root word in the page "ALIF" and it's Alif-Dal-Alif (ا ذ ا) which is the root word of ʾiḏā (إِذَا)

            You can check here for information

            http//ejtaal.net/aa/#hw4=26,ll=76,ls=5,la=49,sg=43,ha=26,br=46,pr=12,vi=63,mgf=46,mr=39,mn=15,aan=34,kz=30,uqq=8,ulq=274,uqa=22,uqw=119,umr=44,ums=28,umj=40,bdw=31,amr=16,asb=22,auh=74,dhq=19,mht=11,msb=11,tla=22,amj=27,ens=1,mis=1

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              hello take a look at this site it talks about root words and explained ba-da-la very clearly. they used lanes lexicon https//thequranspeaksforitself.wordpress.com/

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                Dear all,

                Project Root List is a powerful Quran study tool and our newly launched web application (https//www.personalquran.com) integrates with PRL making it very convenient and fast to view corresponding PRL entry for the root of selected word in Quran verses. No more switching windows here and there, you can now see the PRL entry right from the very word of Quran verse you select within the app!

                Please check it out.

                Peace,
                Personal Quran

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                  Dear all,

                  Please find below a sample screenshot (plus explanation) of Word by Word screen in which the application shows corresponding PRL entry for the word selected by the user.

                  https//d1iju0wyuqgb5k.cloudfront.net/screenshot/wordbyword.png

                  No more switching windows here and there!

                  Peace,
                  Personal Quran

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                    Root ن ق م

                    Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                    a) Total occurrences 17

                    b) No of constructions 10

                    Nouns 3; Recurrence 7; Verb 7; Recurrence 10

                    (لسان العرب)
                    النَّقِمةُ والنَّقْمةُ المكافأَة بالعقوبة

                    That it signifies award with retribution, punishment.

                    Lane Lexicon 1 نَقَمَ عَلَيْهِ He exacted vengeance upon him, punished him see an ex. voce ابدى in art. بدو. See 8. اِنْتَقَمْتُ مِنْهُ I took, or executed, vengeance on him, or inflicted penal retribution on him, for that which he had done (JK or I punished him; (S, Msb, K as also مِنْهُ ↓ نَقَمْتُ, (Msb, K,) and عَلَيهِ, (TA,) aor. نَقِمَ. نِقْمَةٌ Vengeance; or penal retribution.

                    اردو میں انتقام مستعمل ہے۔معنی١ - بدلہ۔ عوض۔ پاداش

                    انتقام سے منسوب انتقام سے تعلق رکھنے والی کارروائی جو انتقام کی غرض سے ہو، جیسے انتقامی جذبہ، انتقامی کارروائی۔

                    اردو میں فارسی زبان سے مستعار لیا ہوا لفظ ـ’پاداش‘اس مادہ کے تصور کے زیادہ قریب ہے۔

                    اردو زبان کے مروجہ تراجم میں اللہ تعالیٰ کے لئے ’انتقام لینے والا‘ اور ’بدلہ لینے والا‘مناسب نہیں ہیں۔جرم کی سزا دینے کو انتقام لینا اور بدلہ لینا کہنا مناسب نہیں۔جرم کی سز دینا مقتدر کی ذمہ داری اور استحقاق ہے۔

                    Passion/emotion is not associated when retribution is by the Sovereign awarded to a subject held guilty of crime. Thereby, the sense of revenge is not there.

                    Semantic domain Punishment

                    Frame Index
                    Definition
                    An Agent (the punisher or rewarder) performs a Response_action on an Evaluee for a Reason, the Evaluee's actions or beliefs. Means and Instrument may also be indicated. The goal of the punishment/reward is to discourage/encourage the actions or beliefs. Words in this frame presuppose that a judgment of the Evaluee has occurred and that the Evaluee is (or becomes) aware of the judgment. This judgment was performed by a cognizer which is either the same as the Agent, or, minimally, a representative of the same institution.
                    Core
                    Agent
                    Semantic Type Sentient The Agent is the person doing the rewarding or punishing.

                    Evaluee Evaluee is the person or thing about whom/which a judgment has made and to whom reward/punishment is dealt. With verbs, the Evaluee is typically expressed as Object.

                    Reason
                    Semantic Type State_of_affairs Typically, there is a constituent expressing the Reason for the Agent's judgment.

                    Ayahs where it occurs are given in the Link
                    http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(1492).htm

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                      Root ج ھ د

                      Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                      a) Total occurrences 41

                      b) No of constructions 18

                      It occurs in 36 Ayah in 19 Sura

                      Nouns 8 Recurrence 14; Verbs 10 Recurrence 27

                      Ibn Faris stated

                      (مقاييس اللغة)

                      الجيم والهاء والدال أصلُهُ المشقَّة، ثم يُحمَل عليه ما يقارِبُه. يقال جَهَدْتُ نفسي وأجْهَدتوالجُهْد الطَّاقَة.

                      That its original meaning is discomfort, toil - hard work - work hard; thereby it signifies physical and mental labour and striving according to ability and capability.

                      Semantic domain Strive - struggle - participate in war.

                      Hostile_encounter
                      Definition
                      This frame consists of words that describe a hostile encounter between opposing forces (Side_1 and Side_2, collectively conceptualizable as Sides) over a disputed Issue and/or in order to reach a specific Purpose.
                      Issue An unresolved question over which the two sides of a hostile encounter are in disagreement.

                      make great efforts to achieve or obtain something.

                      struggle or fight vigorously.

                      to try very hard to do something or to make something happen, especially for a long time or against difficulties.

                      Lane Lexicon

                      Classical Lexicons

                      Grand Qur’ān has built in lexicon for its important words and terms. It exposes the perception and meanings of its important words in a picturesque manner. It exposes the meanings of its important words by using it in different semantic fields whereby one can perceive all its dimensions relating to substance as well accident including metaphorical aspect. It exposes the perception and meanings of most of its words picturesquely by relationships and contrasts.

                      http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(250).htm

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                        Root ج ب ر

                        Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                        a) Total occurrences 10

                        b) No of constructions 5 All Nouns

                        Ibn Faris stated

                        (مقاييس اللغة)

                        الجيم والباء والراء أصلٌ واحد، وهو جِنْسٌ من العظَمة والعُلوّ والاستقامة.

                        That it relates to bone/skeleton, grandeur, might, superiority and straightness.

                        It is also used as an epithet for Allah the Exalted, thereby, in positive sense it would equate in Ecglish to "the Irresistible" or Almighty.

                        In negative sense it means
                        http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/011.%20Hud%20alaihissalm/11.59b.gif

                        And they purposely followed the word and command of every tyrant/powerful obstinate.

                        All ayahs where used may be seen here
                        http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(199).htm

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                          Root ب ت ر

                          Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                          a) Total occurrences 1

                          Ibn Faris stated

                          (مقاييس اللغة)

                          الْبَاءُ وَالتَّاءُ وَالرَّاءُ أَصْلٌ وَاحِدٌ، وَهُوَ الْقَطْعُ قَبْلَ أَنْ تُتِمَّهُ وَكُلُّ مَنِ انْقَطَعَ مِنَ الْخَيْرِ أَثَرُهُ فَهُوَ أَبْتَرُ.

                          That it signifies cutting a thing before it was complete, and whoever is cut from good, benefaction, blessing he is أَبْتَرُ doomed,

                          Lane Lexicon He cut, or cut off, a thing before it was complete.

                          http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/108.%20Al%20Kausar/108.3.gif

                          It is a certain fact about the maligner, nurturer of ill-feeling and cattiness against you the Messenger he stands doomed permanently

                          http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(74).htm

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                            Root خ م ر

                            Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                            a) Total occurrences 7

                            b) No of constructions 5 All Nouns

                            From the same Root two words apparently of meanings poles apart

                            http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.219/2.gif

                            http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.219/4.gif

                            What is the relationship between both?

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                              Root خ م ر

                              Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                              a) Total occurrences 7

                              b) No of constructions 5 All Nouns

                              From the same Root two words apparently of meanings poles apart

                              http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.219/2.gif

                              http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.219/4.gif

                              What is the relationship between both?

                              Salam,

                              Relationship in bold in my text below

                              In 2431 this term derives from the root khamara to cover, to wrap, to hide, and thus etymologically the word khumur, plural of khimâr, designates all that serves to hide and to hide from the glances. Thus we can deduce that by khimâr we must understand only the function that the Quran confers on it anything that can be useful to hide the neckline and translated by a generic word that is "stuff".

                              In the other other verses it means the wine whose abusive consumption hides the intellect.

                              Peace

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                                Salam,

                                Relationship in bold in my text below

                                In 2431 this term derives from the root khamara to cover, to wrap, to hide, and thus etymologically the word khumur, plural of khimâr, designates all that serves to hide and to hide from the glances. Thus we can deduce that by khimâr we must understand only the function that the Quran confers on it anything that can be useful to hide the neckline and translated by a generic word that is "stuff".

                                In the other other verses it means the wine whose abusive consumption hides the intellect.

                                Peace

                                Yes. Right you are. Very fine.

                                The amazing fact about the Roots of Arabic is that the perception enfolded in them is reflective of physical—scientific realities pertaining both to matter and life. They seem as if they are the baseline for scientific study and investigation. What alcoholic drink has to do with the scarf of cloth put over the bosoms of a woman? It has the same affect that is caused by the one or two drinks, i.e. blurred vision.

                                The size and shape of the bosoms gets blurred for the vision of onlooker if an extra scarf is placed over the chest. Thereby, his brain gets no signal to trigger negative emotion.

                                http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(415).htm

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                                  Interesting thought. Allah knows best.

                                  This example shows us how it is important to find the core meaning of the root of a word before putting a form.
                                  I saw your translation of 590 ".. The Certain Facts About the Alcoholic Beverages and Gambling ...". and the word "wal-maysiru" by "Gambling".
                                  What is the relationship between the core meaning of "ease" that comes from this root and the word "Gambling"?
                                  Peace.

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                                    Interesting thought. Allah knows best.

                                    This example shows us how it is important to find the core meaning of the root of a word before putting a form.
                                    I saw your translation of 590 ".. The Certain Facts About the Alcoholic Beverages and Gambling ...". and the word "wal-maysiru" by "Gambling".
                                    What is the relationship between the core meaning of "ease" that comes from this root and the word "Gambling"?
                                    Peace.

                                    Good point.

                                    Root ى س ر

                                    Words from this Root in the Grand Qur’ān

                                    a) Total occurrences 44

                                    b) No of constructions 18

                                    It occurs in 40 Ayahs in 27 Sura

                                    Nouns 10; Recurrence 29; Verb 8 Recurrence 15

                                    Ibn Faris stated

                                    (مقاييس اللغة)

                                    الْيَاءُ وَالسِّينُ وَالرَّاءُ أَصْلَانِ يَدُلُّ أَحَدُهُمَا عَلَى انْفِتَاحِ شَيْءٍ وَخِفَّتِهِ، وَالْآخَرُ عَلَى عُضْوٍ مِنَ الْأَعْضَاء

                                    َالْأَوَّلُ الْيُسْرُ ضِدُّ الْعُسْرِ. وَالْيَسَرَاتُ الْقَوَائِمُ الْخِفَافُ

                                    That it firstly leads to the perception of liberality and openness of a thing and its lightness. Thereby, it is contra. of difficult, hard, strait and intricate.

                                    Lane Lexicon He was, or became, gentle, and tractable, submissive, manageable, or easy; He (God) made it, or rendered it, easy; facilitated it. It (a thing) was, or became, facilitated, or easy; contr. of difficult, hard, strait, or intricate;

                                    Classical Lexicons

                                    The Root relates to activity and set of circumstance and thus is an experience. An experience has an easy or difficult time carrying out an activity.

                                    It is also used to refer to gambling, game of chance because the consideration behind it is easiness in making money.

                                    http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(1639).htm

                                    What is harmful in it? Please suggest to include it in the dictionary.

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                                      Very goog job with your lexicographic cards (a good synthesis specially to find the core concept by using Ibn Faris). That Allah bless you for your work. After, only Allah and his last book can confirm the work of human being (as human works it is perfectible).

                                      I think it is not specially the place here (an another subject in this forum?) but it will be interesting to analyse the Quranic context and in particular to answer at the question you raise Why excess of "Gambling" is a bad evil ? With quranic proofs/evidences of course not just imagination.
                                      We can understand, and signs are given in The Quran, about Wine (alcohol inside) but "Gambling" ? either it is forbidden or it is allowed otherwise what is the limit of excess?

                                      Peace

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                                        Very goog job with your lexicographic cards (a good synthesis specially to find the core concept by using Ibn Faris). That Allah bless you for your work. After, only Allah and his last book can confirm the work of human being (as human works it is perfectible).

                                        I think it is not specially the place here (an another subject in this forum?) but it will be interesting to analyse the Quranic context and in particular to answer at the question you raise Why excess of "Gambling" is a bad evil ? With quranic proofs/evidences of course not just imagination.
                                        We can understand, and signs are given in The Quran, about Wine (alcohol inside) but "Gambling" ? either it is forbidden or it is allowed otherwise what is the limit of excess?

                                        Peace

                                        The intention of each gambler is to become owner of other's wealth. Eventually he may become lethargic, dilapidated in undertaking efforts for economics.

                                        I have put all the Ayahs where it occurs. Please advise about the suitability of word choice in different contexts like gentle, smooth, convenient.

                                        Affect of gambling is given in Ayahs.

                                        http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(1639).htm

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                                          Arabic is the Principal language.

                                          Root د ر ر

                                          Only two nouns are used

                                          http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/04.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%20006/64.%20Midraran%20Daal%20Ra%20Ra/1.gif; and

                                          http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/04.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%20006/64.%20Midraran%20Daal%20Ra%20Ra/2.gif

                                          Strange and amazing

                                          one means timely and abundant rain;

                                          while other means Pearl.

                                          What is common in them with reference to Concept in the Root?

                                          http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(445).htm

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