I have never seen on freemind talking about Rohingya, syria and ect.
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peaceHuruf,
you claim they worry, but not enough to act, they are too busy paying sovereigns, practicing usury and believeing the lies of the media.
Slandering must be hell of a pleasure, and feeling above all those crap people must also be one. Keep at it, since it gives so much satisfaction.
There is something rotten in the kingdom of self-delusion.
Salaam
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According to Quran alone, what is your position on the plight of Muslims who are being killed, tortured and brutal. What is on you mind,
I have never seen on freemind talking about Rohingya, syria and ect.There was a time when all those questions were talked about. Lately the forum is rather silent on many things. As you may see I do not speak for all, but I think all sincere people of any persuation are worried by all those who are cornered and persecuted and humilliated. We may not vent it here, but I think many of us do in other venues. Too many troubles in the world for plain people who do not have much power even in their own environment. May God have mercy on all of us.
Salaam
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You think I am malicious, giving false, and defamatory statements, but I am not, self labelled Muslims worship idols, sovereigns, riba, and have no time to care too much about the majority of the peoples of the earth who exist in poverty, they do not refuse for example to pay the taxes demanded by their sovereigns which fund the war machines, they don't refuse to be a party to the governments that extort and sujugate them, I see none working towards the creation of alternatives to the sovereign hierarchical models, or alternatives to the many riba models in place?
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I would add, Muslim are no worse than none Muslim, but no better, being a self labeled Muslim makes no difference to any virtuousness, it has no expression of reason, truth, equity or provides any solutions just as those who do not label themselves Muslim.
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Slandering must be hell of a pleasure, and feeling above all those crap people must also be one. Keep at it, since it gives so much satisfaction.
There is something rotten in the kingdom of self-delusion.
Salaam
An absolute majority of 'mourning' within the Muslim world regarding Palestinian population is pretentious. A lot would just make a post or a video of how Palestinians are prosecuted, they make it appear as if they care, some may even start fasting in response to Palestinian prisoners strikes just to show off their support for Palestinian Muslims and get likes on youtube. But beyond ostentation it is nothing.
Such pretentious 'support' reminds of me how people in general show their support with sad faces when something tragic happens, but they fail to see the core reason of why it happens, because if they would they would with high probability find their own hypocricy and passive involvement in this. This demonstrative example from Breaking Bad is a good examples how useless 'mass prayer sessions' turn away people from the core cause
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-8FB6k8jik
There is a great deal of hypocricy among Muslim communities worldwide in regard to Israel and Syria, as well as many other tragic events and particular situations. I will come up with a few, but there certainly are more examples, but obviously not only among Muslims but people in general, but to just keep on with the subject
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Common hypocricy regarding deaths of people outside of Islam. When a flight is bombed by the terrorist (when one of the terrorist groups takes responsibility or allegedly takes responsibility, tbh I could not approve some of the alleged responsibilities taken in the past and reported by the media by trying to find their official statements on the Internet from past terroristic attacks / the later may also suggest an inside job but nonethless attributed to Muslims and implied to be of Islamic exercise) Muslims do not care about deaths of non-Muslims. When a Muslim madman inspired by secterian teachings attacks people with knives or drives in the crowd, they are either silent or try to turn the topic in another direction.
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Common hypocricy regarding tragic events around Muslims from different Islamic sects. In 2015 over 2000 Muslims died in the stampede in Hadj. What was reaction of Iran? They blamed Saudi's for poorly organizing the pilgrimage https//www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/25/iran-blames-saudi-government-hajj-disaster-investigation.
And while I believe Iran is right in regards to Saudi involvement in organization, but judging from Iranian statement's logical reaction of Shia communities would be that organization of Hadj belongs solely to Shia and not Sunni and that they should have been responsible and if they would be responsible, no stampede would happen. Again, no brotherhood, only sectarian division within Islamic world.
- Common hypocricy regarding Muslim support of the so-called Muslim governments. They go to Mecca for the Hadj, yet many of them fail to see how hypocritical for the Arabs is to have slaves (migrant workers from other Muslim countries who are treated as slaves in Saudi Arabia) and build skyscrapers constructed by migrant experts and workers and bought with oil money, while their own Sunni Shafi'i brothers are terrorized in Israel. The governments, in turn, namely their political systems such as monarchies, have nothing to do with the teachings of Qur'an. They act as the criminals described in Qur'an who conspire against their population (6123), and they care not about average Muslims, but about power and intrigues to keep their power.
Now of course I am not saying are Muslims can be described in this way. I know that a lot of Muslims criticize Saudi regime, for instance, but then again we canclearly see the pattern of their so-called brotherhood and solidarity.
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An absolute majority of 'mourning' within the Muslim world regarding Palestinian population is pretentious. A lot would just make a post or a video of how Palestinians are prosecuted, they make it appear as if they care, some may even start fasting in response to Palestinian prisoners strikes just to show off their support for Palestinian Muslims and get likes on youtube. But beyond ostentation it is nothing.
Such pretentious 'support' reminds of me how people in general show their support with sad faces when something tragic happens, but they fail to see the core reason of why it happens, because if they would they would with high probability find their own hypocricy and passive involvement in this. This demonstrative example from Breaking Bad is a good examples how useless 'mass prayer sessions' turn away people from the core cause
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-8FB6k8jik
There is a great deal of hypocricy among Muslim communities worldwide in regard to Israel and Syria, as well as many other tragic events and particular situations. I will come up with a few, but there certainly are more examples, but obviously not only among Muslims but people in general, but to just keep on with the subject
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Common hypocricy regarding deaths of people outside of Islam. When a flight is bombed by the terrorist (when one of the terrorist groups takes responsibility or allegedly takes responsibility, tbh I could not approve some of the alleged responsibilities taken in the past and reported by the media by trying to find their official statements on the Internet from past terroristic attacks / the later may also suggest an inside job but nonethless attributed to Muslims and implied to be of Islamic exercise) Muslims do not care about deaths of non-Muslims. When a Muslim madman inspired by secterian teachings attacks people with knives or drives in the crowd, they are either silent or try to turn the topic in another direction.
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Common hypocricy regarding tragic events around Muslims from different Islamic sects. In 2015 over 2000 Muslims died in the stampede in Hadj. What was reaction of Iran? They blamed Saudi's for poorly organizing the pilgrimage https//www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/25/iran-blames-saudi-government-hajj-disaster-investigation.
And while I believe Iran is right in regards to Saudi involvement in organization, but judging from Iranian statement's logical reaction of Shia communities would be that organization of Hadj belongs solely to Shia and not Sunni and that they should have been responsible and if they would be responsible, no stampede would happen. Again, no brotherhood, only sectarian division within Islamic world.
- Common hypocricy regarding Muslim support of the so-called Muslim governments. They go to Mecca for the Hadj, yet many of them fail to see how hypocritical for the Arabs is to have slaves (migrant workers from other Muslim countries who are treated as slaves in Saudi Arabia) and build skyscrapers constructed by migrant experts and workers and bought with oil money, while their own Sunni Shafi'i brothers are terrorized in Israel. The governments, in turn, namely their political systems such as monarchies, have nothing to do with the teachings of Qur'an. They act as the criminals described in Qur'an who conspire against their population (6123), and they care not about average Muslims, but about power and intrigues to keep their power.
Now of course I am not saying are Muslims can be described in this way. I know that a lot of Muslims criticize Saudi regime, for instance, but then again we canclearly see the pattern of their so-called brotherhood and solidarity.
What do you to help them?
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What do you to help them?
I am pointing at the cause, which is
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hypocrisy
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being the pack of sheep that follows blindly their leaders and/or governments
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inability or the lack of critical thinking to check information in the media
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wish to dominate instead of live within one's community in peace
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lack of wish to develop and seek knowledge
The above is universal for all nations, not only Muslims. In case the cause would be eliminated there would be no wars.
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According to Quran alone, what is your position on the plight of Muslims who are being killed, tortured and brutal. What is on you mind,
I have never seen on freemind talking about Rohingya, syria and ect.Syria has been a topic many times. I don't think I saw anything on Rohingya.
There is something I wonder
So sectarians fast a month to feel the poverty and hunger of others. Why then are they missing for Rohingyas?
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Sad truth is Palestinians have been sold down the proverbial river by their own leaders. & committed the biggest bid?ah when they allowed underage kids to fight on the frontline. Still resistance is strong various groups within and without Palestine are still aware of their enemy.
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Muslims are focused on religion, in general, not the suffering, poverty, abuses, murders, rapes, tortures and exterminations of their fellow souls, it matters not if they are Muslim or otherwise, the horrors of the earth presently and historically suffered are due to a single issue, hierarchy, these hierarchical structures are false perceptions that people invest into, and the pyramid is always, just about, dominated by soulless psychopaths.
you may have no sovereign, not even a messenger, that's stated in the bad translations of the Qur?an, even that nugget is ignored, Muslim worship a multitude of sovereign, and adore many hierarchies.
I just focused on positive thinking, not negative one.
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Salam all,
I just need to know your idea, not distorted informations as you mentioned. I respect to all the plights of human beings regardless Muslims. However, the plight of Rohingyas, Palestinians and Syrians have been in existence for years. As quranist, what the Quran said about this plight. Don't you help them, or you just ignore, because this is not belonged to you.
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Salam,
Tyranny and oppression happens everywhere to different scales.
There’s a few more you could add.. Yemen, Uyghur, Afghanistan, Iraq, plus more...
I believe a lot of people feel helpless and also are not very fully aware of the situations or what they can do.
Some people demonstrate through protests, write to their local Foreign and Commonwealth Office, donate to organisations that help the people in conflict and some may share posts/videos on social media to get people more aware.
Quranically we should stand up for justice and equality (4135), not incline to those who do wrong (11113) God commands justice (1690) and defend ourselves from tyranny (4239)
So in my view ignoring isn’t standing up for justice. It may not “belong to us” as in, not the same culture or religion but justice is for all people regardless of ethnicity or religion.