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Is Locking Down Nations the right option for Covid 19?

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    Amra94
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    I think people need warnings like this from time to time otherwise they transgress and exceed limits..

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      jkhan
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      I think people need warnings like this from time to time otherwise they transgress and exceed limits..

      If it is warning we can't help... But how people are treated is so pathetic... In India poor people are treated so badly like animals ... Police hitting them.. Long queue for meals not for grocery I mean... I saw very young boys who came to city for construction works being treated by police and beaten... And they walk home which is 80 kms away.... They don't deserve this... ... Really heartfelt the way dealing.. But the same time helping is there as well

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        ibn_a
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        Salaam,

        Coronavirus The Hammer and the Dance.

        https//medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

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          amin
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          They don't lead a normal life... There are millions of people on this very Earth who earns daily and spend all to survive... How would they lead a normal. Life..

          Why would doctors work, are they super human and save another working community? If they can take risk why we can't in general?

          Yes its difficult if the Govt imposed strict lockdown measures and what you as individual can do?

          But still we can lead a normal life, nothing is going to happen if we rest for a weak or so,
          Take measures to prevent infections using your own home made food items,
          Eat locally available or grown foods that you and your parents consider healthy, basic health care is not so costly as we are made to think, only if do not live in artificial environments in large cities without natural support.

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            jkhan
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            Yes its difficult if the Govt imposed strict lockdown measures and what you as individual can do?

            But still we can lead a normal life, nothing is going to happen if we rest for a weak or so,
            Take measures to prevent infections using your own home made food items,
            Eat locally available or grown foods that you and your parents consider healthy, basic health care is not so costly as we are made to think, only if do not live in artificial environments in large cities without natural support.

            Peace...
            I understand you... But what is the point of staying at home for a weak... No value at all...
            Let those who voluntarily willing to stay home, let them..coz staying home for them may not harm for their livelihood..
            Let those compelled to work, work... Let those self employed, daily basis earning people etc be involved... But let them strictly follow what medical expert order to adhere in order not spread the virus...
            Locking down everyone doesn't. make any sense that also for shorter period...
            Soon or later people have to come out... When and with what warranty? How they can be called safe... So before it is too late everyone should be living normal life but with precautions and much care.. If having to stay home for months, then I am afraid that would only horrify the situation more than the virus...

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              Cerberus
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              Locking down everyone doesn't. make any sense that also for shorter period...

              it makes sense you just don't understand

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                jkhan
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                it makes sense you just don't understand

                Peace

                I do understand dear brother.. I know those worked out that staying at home may curb the spread of the virus.. They are much intelligent in doing so.. That's what China claim they did successfully... ... But all countries are not China... For example India... It has ordered 21 days of curfew... Do you get how big a challenge it is...
                Let's wait and see, lock down really works for controlling the contact of virus and the out come of it... I am sure, people will suffer for an unprecedented magnitude... Some countries will go to extreme level...

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                  Peace

                  I do understand dear brother.. I know those worked out that staying at home may curb the spread of the virus.. They are much intelligent in doing so.. That's what China claim they did successfully... ... But all countries are not China... For example India... It has ordered 21 days of curfew... Do you get how big a challenge it is...
                  Let's wait and see, lock down really works for controlling the contact of virus and the out come of it... I am sure, people will suffer for an unprecedented magnitude... Some countries will go to extreme level...

                  Working out or not, thats the way our medical science recommends,as per their theory on the origin and spread of this disease, but i think the climate plays an important role in this, like how the normal flu spreads up at certain months of the year in each country. So this is going to exists for long.

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                    Noon_waalqalami
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                    peace – it depends on accurate data % fatality of population which gets infected which right now without testing everyone it’s uncertain since there are people with no symptoms, mild, and critical.

                    It’s same all over the world, India and China population ~1.4 billion each is ~140m dead hence 5% created a panic goal is to stop acceleration stretch the period not make it go away perhaps it lessens in summer.

                    The other consideration due to numerous people having little to no or mild symptoms they have the infection rate wrong https//www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

                    Coronavirus Cases
                    542,146

                    Deaths
                    24,365

                    24,365 / 542,146 = 4.5 % fatal mostly elderly with health problems

                    What if 100 x more cases we don’t know about or .045% fatality?

                    How Your Immune System Reacts to Coronavirus
                    https//elemental.medium.com/this-is-how-your-immune-system-reacts-to-coronavirus-cbf5271e530e

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                      jkhan
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                      peace – it depends on accurate data % fatality of population which gets infected which right now without testing everyone it’s uncertain since there are people with no symptoms, mild, and critical.

                      It’s same all over the world, India and China population ~1.4 billion each is ~140m dead hence 5% created a panic goal is to stop acceleration stretch the period not make it go away perhaps it lessens in summer.

                      The other consideration due to numerous people having little to no or mild symptoms they have the infection rate wrong https//www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

                      Coronavirus Cases
                      542,146

                      Deaths
                      24,365

                      24,365 / 542,146 = 4.5 % fatal mostly elderly with health problems

                      What if 100 x more cases we don’t know about or .045% fatality?

                      How Your Immune System Reacts to Coronavirus
                      https//elemental.medium.com/this-is-how-your-immune-system-reacts-to-coronavirus-cbf5271e530e

                      Peace..

                      That's the basic... Test as much as possible... Without testing and locking them down makes a perfect atmosphere to nourish the virus..
                      Suppose I am infected and not being tested, I am without knowledge transmitting to everyone at home.. So the purpose of locking down will be in vain..
                      Testing is not an easy task for every nation.. But By locking them down it's inevitable that more infected cases will be rising...

                      Can any nation say that no one is infected without having comprehensively tested.. How do we know every death which takes place is due to what unless they are tested..

                      Specially developing and under developed nations never tests but only testing those who arrived from abroad.. But locals are not tested.. But locked down...
                      What they anticipate????

                      See the difference testing in USA... Had they avoided testing, they would have been very lower in the list of infected..

                      Had China tested all its people.. .?
                      Hoe many people die in a day all over the world.. Will those nations who locked will tell they died as a result of Covid 19.. I am afraid..
                      Notice the drastic lower cases in Japan... Do you think it is the actual data... That's so far-fetching...
                      Nations can test without locking down but ordering to adhere with medical experts and wearing proper ppe...

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                        Abaddon
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                        I just wanted to buy carrot juice in my local supermarket - but i needed to get a shopping cart for security distance... this is just getting ridiculous. This corona bullshit will be a justification (besides other coming changes in the governmental structures) for the coming central bank controlled digital currency. Welcome to the NWO.

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                          good_logic
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                          Peace quincy.

                          In that case just order from home. Or do you not have free delivery during this crisis?
                          Many people here(UK) are ordering online and the local shops are delivering for free and within the same day.
                          As for currency, most of the shopping is done using cards. I have not seen cash for ages!. Big brother is with us since the 80 s.

                          Look I am miles away from you and I know you have been to buy carrot juice, how much more does your internet gadget know about you and your habits?
                          Welcome to to the harlot and the "prison world" brother.
                          GOD bless you.
                          Peace.

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                            Cerberus
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                            I just wanted to buy carrot juice in my local supermarket - but i needed to get a shopping cart for security distance... this is just getting ridiculous. This corona bullshit will be a justification (besides other coming changes in the governmental structures) for the coming central bank controlled digital currency. Welcome to the NWO.

                            We're here talking about people unable to pay for food and rent and are forced to stay at home and you're apparently unhappy that you had to get a shopping cart for security distance to get your carrot juice ? yuck

                            By the way, that "security distance" is because of the Corona pandemic, which is not a hoax like you claimed before.

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                              Peace...
                              So... Time is running out.. Is locking down really works ehat they expect without Testing....
                              I am afraid they got it wrong... Those countries who locked down their people must act now to test people ....

                              As you all know this locking down is already started to smell the outcome.. Good example is India and South Africa and all other developing nations..
                              I am sure it will be worse than Covid 19 for these...

                              Meanwhile.. China seems definitely not disclosing the true numbers.. Incredible that no new cases but imported cases while all bordering nations to China keep rising such as Kazakhstan Mongolia Uzbekistan etc.. So the remote areas of China not infected... That's far from truth... That doesn't make common sense.... All those 1.4 billion people are tested... Really appreciate what America does...

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                                amin
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                                I am having this simple question, why the so called developed nations and their medical technology cannot prevent their coronovirus deaths? even in China the place where this all started, they claim its stopped and all ok.
                                can we blame the technology and method of treatments used in these developed countries, they are unable to bring or find a faster cure for these novel new viruses?
                                Whats going wrong or is that something we yet have no knowledge on how these viruses starts spreading and stops spreading.

                                I think on the whole we are missing to follow some easier methods to cure this, instead going clueless.

                                God knows and end up all this soon.

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