Deleting good deeds
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Salam
In the holy Quran, there are many verses that say all good deeds will be nullified if a person commits big sin. But in some verses it says that the good deeds of the believers will be nullified (for stuff that are obviously not big sins, technically it's not even sin) like, if they raise their voice above the prophet's voice. My question is, are all good deeds going to be nullified or just some of them.. And also, we are able not to do great sins, like murder. We can protect ourselves from that and losing our deeds, but if even small stuff can be the reason to lose all your deeds then it's impossible to bring anything to the day of judgement. On the other hand, there are verses that say that small sins will be forgiven if we stay away from the big ones. Then this seems like a contradicttion.. Will small sin be forgiven, or it will delete all your good deeds? I'm confused
(Somebody might say raising voice above prophet's voice is a big thing. I agree, but in every day life we say or do stuff without paying attention and we tend to forget..how to not make similar mistakes?)
Salam ilma_bee,
God does not forgive that partners be set up with Him, and He forgives other than that for whom He pleases. Whoever sets up partners with God has indeed strayed a far straying.
Such is the guidance of God, He guides with it whom He pleases of His servants. And if they set up partners, then all that they had worked would fall away from them.
Committing shirk is what make deeds become in vain and God does not forgive this sin (He forgives other than that for whom He is pleased with).
If you openly give charities, then it is acceptable; but if you conceal them and give them to the poor, then that is better for you. And He cancels some of your sins; and God is Expert to all that you do.
He erases some of our sins if we give charity openly or secretly.
And hold the Connection at two parts of the day, and the near side of the night. The good deeds take away the bad. This is a reminder to those who remember.
Good deeds take away the bad ones.
If you avoid the major sins that you are prohibited against, then We will cancel your existing sins and admit you to a generous entrance.
Nobody is sinless but if we strive to avoid major ones, then God promises cancellation of minor ones.
Based on these, I personally put my first priority to avoid committing shirk as this will be the one that He will not forgive and it will result in other deeds become in vain and we have been informed that majority of those who believe in God are committing shirk.
And most of the people, even if you are diligent, will not believe.
And you are not asking them for any wage, it is but a reminder to the worlds.
And how many a sign in the heavens and the earth do they pass by, while they are turning away from it.
And most of them will not believe in God except while setting up partners.Some examples of what can make one become mushrik
- Being divided into "religion"
So set your face to the system of monotheism. It is the inclination that God has nurtured the people on. There is no changing in the creation of God. Such is the pure system, but most of the people do not know.
Turn to Him, and be aware of Him, and hold the Connection, and do not be of the polytheists.
From those who have divided their system and become "religion", each group exult with what they have.- Forbid things based on what God has never authorized.
And those who were polytheists said “If God had wished, we would not have served a thing other than Him; neither us nor our fathers; nor would we have made forbidden anything other than from Him.” Those before them did exactly the same thing; so are the messengers required to do anything except deliver with clarity?
Say “My Lord has made forbidden immorality; what is public of it and private; and sin, and aggression without cause, and that you set up partners with God that which He has never authorized, and that you say about God what you do not know.”
Wassalam,
Ade -
If you are associating partners to God, of course you cannot be forgiven till you do not stop associating partners to God, but not because God has a certain accounting books where he keeps adding or substracting but because YOU live in unreality. When one lives in unreality what punishes him is his or her incapacity to live truly and therefore be true. If you are one step away from falling into a chasm, is not any accounting book which will keep you safe, but your own conviction that if you do take that step will die, if you do not have that conviction and play around with taking or not taking that step as it it was a choice which can turn out well after all, you are living inunreality. And God es Reality, the only one, and if you choose to disregard it, Reality does not forgive you. It is you who has to change, not reality. And when you change you are forgiven, but it is upon you that falls the responsibility, not on any accounting books.
Salaam
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Take all those verses that ade_cool quoted about "polytheists" and see what's the common point in them ? it seems to be that the "mushrik" (oddly translated to polytheist) are motivated by selfish, self-serving actions.
But how does the belief of multiple gods relate to these apparent trait of being selfish and self-serving ?
If we think about people who came before and who culturally believed in multiple gods e.g the greeks and yet had some of the brightest people to discuss and develop on selfless and reasonable acts.Similarly, if we think about people who culturally believe that there is one god, how does that make them not selfish or self-serving ? How does the idea of being polytheist relate to trait of character that is clearly highlighted in those verses that were quoted there, mainly being driven by selfishness ?
The idea that mushrik = polytheist on one hand, and the idea that those same people are described by "proudly dividing themselves into sects" and "not believing in god unless they associate what they wish with him" etc begs a lot of questions.
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What's bothering me is the verse number 2, Surat Hujurat
O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not.
This is not shirk, or some other big sin (kebire, for which there is punishment mentioned in Quran) but still it seems it will cancel all the good deeds. You can stay away from one thing, but how to stay away from endless stuff that you mistake every day while you don't even pay attention...
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Salam Ilma,
The verse you have quoted is a command. Therefore, if anyone was foolish enough to ignore God's command and do the opposite would no doubt incur God's wrath. I do not see sins as being unknown or hidden, rather, they are clearly spelled out by God and we simply have to steer clear of all the "don'ts".
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What's bothering me is the verse number 2, Surat Hujurat
O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not.
This is not shirk, or some other big sin (kebire, for which there is punishment mentioned in Quran) but still it seems it will cancel all the good deeds. You can stay away from one thing, but how to stay away from endless stuff that you mistake every day while you don't even pay attention...
Again, it is not a matter that anybody is goin to do anything to you, but that you have to take responsibility for your own development as a person, and every single habit or did shapes you. It is like gminastics. It is not a question that if you do not do it, somebody is going to punish you, but that if you do it and it is the gimnastics appropriate for you, you ger a better body, you prevent many weaknesses, you are in much better shape. Manners and attitudes reflect onyou and others, so it is not a question that God is angry with you and destroyes what you are with a hammer, but you yourself undo yourself and your prospects with your behaviour. You are being informed of that. You elevate your voice over that of the Prophet, you will get looked at as a person who doesn't master him or herself, who has no regard for opportunity o propriety...
Many things said int he Qur'an are "merely" about manners... Manners may be is not the most important but manners shape and set you in your environment.Salaam
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That verse was a command. It is no longer applicable simply because the Nabi is no longer with us.
At the time ,the Nabi was bringing them revelation, it was not his fault nor the revelation was his words, arguing with him or shouting at him or raising voices over him would not change a word from GOD. That is why it was necessary for GOD to issue that commandO you who believe, do not raise your voices above the voice of the prophet,* nor shall you shout at him as you shout at each other, lest your works become nullified while you do not perceive..
يٰأَيُّهَا الَّذينَ ءامَنوا لا تَرفَعوا أَصوٰتَكُم فَوقَ صَوتِ النَّبِىِّ وَلا تَجهَروا لَهُ بِالقَولِ كَجَهرِ بَعضِكُم لِبَعضٍ أَن تَحبَطَ أَعمٰلُكُم وَأَنتُم لا تَشعُرونَWhenever the word ``prophet'' (Nabi) is used in reference to Muhammad in Qoran, it invariably refers to him during his life, not after his death. Obviously, we cannot possibly raise our voices above Muhammad's voice, now that he is dead.
That is why we never find "Obey the Nabi2 in Qoran, only "Obey the messenger." Because the Nabi is the man and the man has his own words and opinions. But the messenger only brings the message and therefore one is Obeying GOD s words.
GOD bless.
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What's bothering me is the verse number 2, Surat Hujurat
O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not.
This is not shirk, or some other big sin (kebire, for which there is punishment mentioned in Quran) but still it seems it will cancel all the good deeds. You can stay away from one thing, but how to stay away from endless stuff that you mistake every day while you don't even pay attention...
Peace...
Sister, what's bothering you is not literally addressed to you anyway...
You are not a believer who was living with Prophet... So you can never disobey this command..
So don't bother anymore... Concentrate on the verses which Ade brought forward...BTW.. The verse specifically talking directly to believers since they had a quality of raising voices with any of those among them.. So prophet was also among them... They as believers May be respecting the Prophet... But God clarifies how to respect him in a way it deserves.. Prophet was not a normal human being once he was assigned as Prophet / Messenger coz he communicates what God delivers to him... Easing voices agaisnt such icon in the society that also by believers will never give him due respect though prophet doesn't mind it.. But God doesn't like...
If those believers don't identify their prophet with significant difference then their belief may go weak... Since prophet is the one who delivers message... Leader deserves respect... God doesn't mind at all behaving in the sane manner they are among believers... So it tells the story... So they were not doing anything wrong.. It's their nature.. But they can't keep their nature with prophet... Result is losing their good deeds...
You won't lose any of your good deeds coz of this particular verse dear... That's for sure...
But there are many a verse that indicates we can lose our goods deeds...
Hope you don't get upset by my explanation.. Highlighted part is totally unnecessary from your end.. -
Salam and thanks everyone for answers
Jkhan, hmm I know.. but I mean what if in everyday life we do something which is also not big, or we think it's not big and then we lose our deeds? Just like they didn't know it was so important..
And then how can you relax through life if you're not safe from losing good deeds. Deeds are everything you have in order to be ok in the afterlife..
