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Refute Scientific error

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    Someone12
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    Hello?

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      Wakas
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      So doesn't anyone have anything more
      to say about 59...

      Did you bother to read my post?

      I'm trying to help you out but your posting style is not helping.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Someone12
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        I read your post that is why I said anything more...

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          Noon_waalqalami
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          So doesn't anyone have anything more
          to say about 59 and 13 I can find anyway to refute them myself brickwall

          peace, nothing to refute; which word means stars in verse?

          0245 59.

          675 ولقد and surely زىنا adorn we of السما the sky (f) الدنىا the world (f) بمصبىح bimasabiha/with torches (masculine pl.) وجعلنها and made we her/it/them (collective group is feminine) رجوما rujuman/??? of للشىاطىن for the devils/villains واعتدنا and prepares we of لهم for them عذب punishment السعىر the blaze

          697 النجوم l-nujuma/the stars
          2561 سرجا sirajan/lamp of

          what is best meaning رجوما rujuman/???

          رَجْم (rajm) m (plural رُجُوم‎ (rujūm))
          stoning
          meteorites
          projectiles
          conjectures e.g. 1822 … رجما rajman/conjecture/guess of بالغىب in the unseen

          4102 13.

          having adaptive code does not nullify they are “like peoples" too.

          638 وما and not من any دابه creature (i.e. species) فى in الارض the land ولا and not طىر flyer ىطىر flyed بجنحىه with wings two its الا except امم communities امثلكم likenesses you (pl.) ما not فرطنا neglect we of فى in الكتب the book من of شى thing ثم furthermore الى to ربهم lord theirs ىحشرون gathered being

          639 والذىن and the ones كذبوا deny they of باىتنا in signs ours صم deaf وبكم and dumb فى in الظلمت the darkness من whom ىشا willed الله the god ىضلله misguided him ومن and who ىشا willed ىجعله maketh him على on صرط path مستقىم straight

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            Someone12
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            Peace noon

            Sorry I don't understand what you have written, for no.59 do you mean the "lamps" mentioned in it doesn't refer to stars, if so then what else can It refer to, star seems to be what it is referring to because it say they beautify the nearest heaven and if they are lamps and also beautify that means we should be able to see them and they should be always there so imo the verse refer to stars

            I understand understand what you are trying to say with the translation of rajam

            1. I also don't understand what you are trying to say here too.
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              Noon_waalqalami
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              peace someone, already showed everything necessary different words used, etc., up to you to study.

              638-39 وما and not من any دابه dabbatin/creature (i.e. species) فى in الارض the land ولا and not طىر tairin/flyer ىطىر flyed بجنحىه with wings two its الا except امم umamun/communities امثلكم likenesses you (pl.) ما not فرطنا neglect we of فى in الكتب the book من of شى thing ثم furthermore الى to ربهم lord theirs ىحشرون gathered being والذىن and the ones كذبوا deny they of باىتنا in signs ours صم deaf وبكم and dumb فى in الظلمت the darkness من whom ىشا willed الله the god ىضلله misguided him ومن and who ىشا willed ىجعله maketh him على on صرط path مستقىم straight

              697 وهو and he الذى the one جعل made لكم for you النجوم l-nujuma/the stars لتهتدوا to thou guided ye of بها by them فى in ظلمت darkness البر the dry land والبحر and the sea قد hence فصلنا explain we of الاىت the signs لقوم for folk ىعلمون knowing

              2561 تبرك blesseth الذى the one جعل made فى in السما the sky (f) بروجا burujan/constructs/constellations of
              وجعل and made فىها in her/it (f) سرجا sirajan/radiant lamp of (i.e. sun) وقمرا and moon of منىرا illuminate of

              376 انا indeed we زىنا adorn we of السما l-samaa/the sky (f) الدنىا l-dunya/the world (f)
              بزىنه with adornment الكوكب l-kawakibi/the celestial objects (planets, galaxies, etc.)

              675-6 ولقد and surely زىنا adorn we of السما l-samaa/the sky (f) الدنىا l-dunya/the world (f)
              بمصبىح bimasabiha/with torches (e.g. fiery asteroids, meteors, meteorites, comets, etc.)
              وجعلنها and made we them رجوما rujuman/conjectures of للشىاطىن for the devils/villains
              واعتدنا and prepares we of لهم for them عذب punishment السعىر the blaze
              وللذىن and for the ones كفروا reject they of بربهم in lord theirs عذب punishment جهنم abyss وبىس and wretched المصىر the destiny

              videos capture exploding meteor in sky
              https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Rx2PZ7C0c

              https//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/17/vers/36?handschrift=107

              https//i.postimg.cc/y8hJcfrB/ch17v35-46.jpg

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                There is a Qur'an Alone forum known as Muslim Villa and they have a section within a Topic

                http//muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?board=146.0

                This is a rebuttal section against some of the claims which Wakas has shown us of the list. Although it responds to Answering Islam & WikiIslam claims.

                I wonder if there is anyone else who can respond to this video.

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                  Someone should make a refutation against that video. Does anyone know someone has responded to this person's video?

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                    Rauf_Murtuzov
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                    Someone should make a refutation against that video. Does anyone know someone has responded to this person's video?

                    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_9VHixMOFs

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                      The_Sardar
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                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_9VHixMOFs

                      Oh wow. I had no idea of this. Thank you brother Rauf. This will take some time.

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                        Rauf_Murtuzov
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                        Oh wow. I had no idea of this. Thank you brother Rauf. This will take some time.

                        You're welcome.
                        Do you want to watch them all?
                        There is a time stamp.

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                          The_Sardar
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                          I was mostly interested in the science refutation against Apostate Prophet but i did saved the video for "Watch Later".

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                            Fadiva
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                            The "problem" of flat earth is still unresolved. When I read "between the earth/land and the heavens" or " Seven heavens on layers/ one above another", I can't see a "round" planet in/inside the universe.

                            Also another thing raised is the heart which seems to have the functions of the brain. As in the past it is said it was believed that the heart was the organ which "think" (Read it (several years ago) from an long scientific article in a magazine about the brain and research throught time) .
                            In a translation of a verse in the Qur'an the heart is the (or one) organ who understand.

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                              The "problem" of flat earth is still unresolved. When I read "between the earth/land and the heavens" or " Seven heavens on layers/ one above another", I can't see a "round" planet in/inside the universe.

                              Also another thing raised is the heart which seems to have the functions of the brain. As in the past it is said it was believed that the heart was the organ which "think" (Read it (several years ago) from an long scientific article in a magazine about the brain and research throught time) .
                              In a translation of a verse in the Qur'an the heart is the (or one) organ who understand or is a medium to understand.

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