The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah.

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According to Quran , name of Jesus is "Isa"

and Isa was not crucified.

Today the BBC says something close to this

https//reportweb.co/bbc-documentary-proves-jesus-was-a-buddhist-monk-named-issa/

If God called Son of Mariam as Issa then it could be his name…. no point of disagreeing it…same about crucifying..
Point here is about the link… I read it… I knew about such message claiming Issa to be a Buddist monk…that also proudly by Buddist while they extremely deny GOD and CREATION..
Unfortunately, I won’t agree to that…
Buddism is merely constituted by studying the suffering of human being in a vast level… No place in their ancient existing Theravada Buddism talking about God being the Creator… No such place for God in entire buddism.. Those who claim that there is God, automatically goes offline from being a real buddist…
This is what the much accepted factor in buddism.. They claim they preserve other religious gods and not God/s preserve human… That’s why they keep food in temple…They accept away from their buddha teachings the hindu gods for their well being.. That is opposed by Buddha high priests..
We don’t know what exactly Buddha preached and what is preserved and practicing now.. But there is no hint of God and creation in Buddism…Since much older Veda scriptures talk about creation and God, how come a dogma which constituted much later than that has no evidence of God in their belief…
If Issa was in greater Bharat (India) then definitely something would have been preserved talking about God in existing buddist teachings…Coz Issa is widely accepted as son of God.. But they strongly deny God to the extent of nullifying being a buddist if accept God… God and creation has no connection with Buddism… if we say so that is only our own misunderstanding while they buddist deny it…

had buddha been a a prophet teaching the verses to his people, i would strongly believe something of God and Creation would have been preserved... But no clue...

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According to the false Bible, the number of people who fled Egypt with Moses is in the millions

The Israelites journeyed from Rameses to Sukkoth. There were about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children. Many other people went up with them, and also large droves of livestock, both flocks and herds.

And as it turns out, this community also met Egypt's labor needs. If millions of such people had actually left the country overnight, considering the scarcity of the world's population at that time, it would have been a terrible exodus mentioned in the history books. That's not the case, of course.

The Qur'an again wrote the truth, and it was a small community that set out with Moses and Aaron

Quran And We inspired to Moses, “Travel by night with My servants; indeed, you will be pursued.” Then Pharaoh sent among the cities gatherers , “Indeed, those are but a small band”

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5122 In the heaven is your provision, and what you are promised. (Paradise and hell are both ready and outside the world, in the sky)

The prophets living in Paradise will be summoned to the court as witnesses on the Day of Judgment

7711 And when the messengers are gathered.

heaven is not paradise. Heaven =universe
Heavens = universes
The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
65.12 Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
Example "Floor of Lord" (Indallah) = afterlife universe
Except for the Hereafter universe, all the other universes will end with big crunch.
21104 On the day when We roll up the heavens like a scroll of books is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.
3967 They have not given God His true worth; and the whole earth is within His fist on the day of resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Be He glorified; He is much too high above what they set up.

Quran A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (3620-29)

1956 And recall in the Book, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.
1957 And We raised him to a high place.

355 For God said "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."

Prophets and very good peoples in Paradise now. They were created in Paradise (floor of Lord/other universe) without waiting for the Hour.

But, Other people will wait for the Resurrection for re-creation.

The Qur'an says that a group of exception people are already living in Paradise.

And it even tells us that some of them are talking about the world's inhabitants. They say "they(World peoples) will come to us later". However, it is difficult to see them for you because the English translations of the Qur'an do not provide complete sentences.
Likewise, the verses of the Lord's Floor are also mentioned, but you cannot see it again in English translations. Because, unfortunately, those under the influence of traditional interpretation make translations in their own understanding.

Yes, according to the Qur'an there are already people living in Paradise.
And that's where Christians believe that Jesus is in paradise.

In the false Gospels, the event was described incorrectly, so you could not see the painting until today.
Jesus and all other messengers/ prophets live in paradise now.

3169 Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions.
3170 Happy with what God has granted them from His grace, and they rejoice in those who have yet to follow after them. There is no fear upon them nor do they grieve.
517 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah the son of Mary." Say, "Who has any power against God if He had wanted to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother, and all who are on earth!" To God is the sovereignty of heavens and earth and all that is in-between; He creates what He pleases. God is capable of all things. (Jesus and his mother living in other universe, Like other prophets...)

848 He will then receive an easy reckoning.
849 He will return to his family in joy! (The person who is called from Paradise to the day of judgment will return to Paradise again with joy)

5313 Indeed, he saw him in another descent.
5314 At the ultimate point.
5315 Next to the eternal Paradise.
(Even when the prophet Muhammad lived in the world, he was taken to visit the universe of the Hereafter/ Floor of Lord)

567 You will be in three groupings.
568 So those on the right; who will be from those on the right?
569 Those on the left; who will be from those on the left?
5610 And those foremost, who will be from those foremost?
(8th verse about peple who after the apocalyptic blessing will enter the paradise, 9th verse about who will enter hell, and the 10th verse talking about the already pioneering group living in Paradise. Thus, the three classes mentioned in verse 7 are completed)

1993 When all there is in the heavens and the earth will but come to the Gracious as servants.

1956 Recall in the book Enoch; he was truthful, a prophet.
1957 We raised him to a high place.
(Enoch is living in Paradise now)

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"Contradiction; Jesus said, “do not defend yourselves” (Matthew 539, Matthew 2652) Vs Jesus said, “defend yourselves” (Luke 2236)

Excuse; Some Biblical words are being taken literally instead of symbolically or metaphorically. “turn the other cheek.” Figuratively meant, “be moral”.

Rebuttal Actually, turn the other cheek was a literal commandment because Jesus himself demonstrated this law;

“When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, “Is that how you answer the high priest?” Jesus answered him, “If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?” (John 1822-23)

Rather than attacking the officer or causing the officer to evaporate (since Christians claim Jesus is God), instead Jesus reasons with the guard.

This means that if your enemy strikes or attacks you, you are to allow him or her to attack you without striking back. You are to take the punishment without reacting. If the Christians in history allowed themselves to be attacked without retaliating as Jesus ordered, than there would be no Christians left today.

Correction The Quran saves the Bible regarding the rule given by Jesus by clarifying that when you are being attacked, it is best to have patience and forgiveness against the attack, But then if the attacks continue, than we are given the permission to retaliate only with the equal amount of force that was used against us

“And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient.” (Quran 16126)

Therefore, we are given the permission to repel attacks, to protect ourselves, although God prefers forgiveness."

http//islamicbook.com/free/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/

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Quran saying The elites always kept the books from you.

Quran 691 They did not value God as He deserves to be valued, for they said, "God has never sent down anything to any human being." Say, "Who then has sent down the book which Moses had come with, a light and guidance for the people? You treat it just as scrolls of paper; you show some of it and conceal much, though you were taught what neither you nor your fathers knew." Say, "God has." Then leave them playing in their folly.

Matthew Mark or Yuhanna always wrote hadith books.

Mattheww or Mark are like Bukhari. They are hadith writers. You(Christians, Jews) have not got holy books.

God's word hasn't changed. Your priests have adopted fake books. They gave you the hadith books as the Bible and deceived you.

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"The Quran says that when the night and the day overlap, they make a ball (sphere)

Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps the night over the day and overlaps the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?"

http//www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.htm

and;

https//muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/#post-362-_Toc96948534

So, the Quran corrects the false Bible again.

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The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; God in the Bible orders his followers in a battle to kill every living thing including, women, children, and animals;

“Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I will punish what Am’alek did to Israel in opposing them on the way, when they came up out of Egypt. Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Don’t leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.” (1 Samuel 152–3)

Excuse; None available.

Correction God orders Muslims in the Quran to have patience against those who attack you, and if the attacks persist, we are only to retaliate with the same amount we were attacked with and to never go beyond the amount of attack we received

“And if you take your turn, then retaliate with the like of that with which you were afflicted; But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient.” (Quran 16126)"

https//muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/

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The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; The Bible claims that if someone turns away from God, they are lost forever and to be killed;

“For how can those who abandon their faith be brought back to repent again? They were once in God’s light; they tasted heaven’s gift and received their share of the Holy Spirit; they knew from experience that God’s word is good, and they had felt the powers of the coming age. And then they abandoned their faith! It is impossible to bring them back to repent again, because they are again crucifying the Son of God and exposing him to public shame.” (Hebrews 64-6)

And

“But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.” (Ezekiel 1824)

Excuse; Later Scripture overrules previous scriptures

Rebuttal Here the Biblicists ignore that the superseding scripture in the Bible also confirms apostates are to be put to death;

“If we decide to go on sinning after we have learned the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins. There is nothing but fear in waiting for the judgment and the terrible fire that will destroy all those who live against God. Anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was found guilty from the proof given by two or three witnesses. He was put to death without mercy. So what do you think should be done to those who do not respect the Son of God, who look at the blood of the agreement that made them holy as no different from others’ blood, who insult the Spirit of God’s grace? Surely they should have a much worse punishment.” (Hebrews 1026-29)

Correction Our Merciful Lord shows benevolence towards those who stray in error, giving the apostate more than one chance to repent. The Quran does not discard human lives ruthlessly as the Bible appears to

“Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way.” (Quran 4137)

Furthermore, in the Holy Quran, the death given to apostates is a spiritual one, where the rejecters of faith lose guidance

“That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith So a seal was set on their hearts therefore they understand not.” (Quran 633)
Unlike the Bible, the Quran teaches not to physically harm those who do not physically harm us

“Let there be no compulsion in religion Truth stands out clear from Error whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.” (Quran 2256)"

https//muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/

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The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; The Bible teaches that missionaries from religions other than yours, are to be put to death;

“But put to death any interpreters of dreams or prophets that tell you to rebel against the Lord, who rescued you from Egypt, where you were slaves. Such people are evil and are trying to lead you away from the life that the Lord has commanded you to live. They must be put to death, in order to rid yourselves of this evil.” (Deuteronomy 135)

Excuse; None available.

Correction God revealed to us in the Holy Quran to tolerate and even protect people of other faiths. If missionaries try to convert us to another religion, we are to politely respond;

“I worship not that which ye worship, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.” (Quran 1092-6)"

https//muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/

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The Quran Corrects the False Bible

"Contradiction; Animals were created before man was created. (Genesis 124-27) Vs Man was created before animals were created. (Genesis 27, 19)

Excuse; (Genesis 2) is only descriptive and the two chapters do not exactly say when the animals were created.

Rebuttal What apologists fail to comprehend is that in (Genesis 1), after God made the animals, the decision to make man was consummated. While in (Genesis 2), after man was made, God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone,” then the decision to make animals was executed.

Correction Logically, animals were created before humans in order for humans to have food. The Holy Quran lists this sequence here

“Hast thou not seen that unto Allah payeth adoration whosoever is in the heavens and whosoever is in the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the hills, and the trees, and the beasts, and many of mankind, while there are many unto whom the doom is justly due. He whom Allah scorneth, there is none to give him honor. Lo! Allah doeth what He will.” (Quran 221"

https//muslimbook.com/free-islamic-books/200-ways-the-quran-corrects-the-bible/

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https//www.answering-christianity.com/200_ways_quran_corrects_bible.pdf

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The Bible, a hadith book, says;

Job 2611

"The pillars of the heavens will be shaken,
They are dumbfounded when He rebukes them."

But as is well known, space was built and expanded without pillars or columns.

Here again, the Holy Qur'an corrects the false Bible in the market by writing the truth;

Holy Quran

3110 He created the heavens without pillars or supports; you see them. And He placed on the earth weights and supports so that it would not shake you and make you stagger, and He spread therein all kinds of animals. And We sent down water from the sky, and there We caused every kind of generous and fruitful pair to flourish.

Peace be upon you.

jkhan

The Bible, a hadith book, says;

Job 2611

"The pillars of the heavens will be shaken,
They are dumbfounded when He rebukes them."

But as is well known, space was built and expanded without pillars or columns.

Here again, the Holy Qur'an corrects the false Bible in the market by writing the truth;

Holy Quran

3110 He created the heavens without pillars or supports; you see them. And He placed on the earth weights and supports so that it would not shake you and make you stagger, and He spread therein all kinds of animals. And We sent down water from the sky, and there We caused every kind of generous and fruitful pair to flourish.

Peace be upon you.

In my perception, I don't quite agree with you...
What meant by pilar in Job 2611 should be understood with real word.. It could be even foundation... Even Job or Psalm states pillars of earth tremble... So every sstrong structure has foundation...
But as per Quran verse and word usage it's clear that God built Heavens without Pilars. The word can be taken as pilars not as foundation. So it is obvious Heaven is pillar less. But point to note is Earth is also Pilar less according to well-known science.. But God never united earth and heavens together in any verse.. They are two separate things.. But if we consider heaven (universe) earth is part of it and pillar less..
So.. Don't find fault in Job verse... Find out what the earth and heavens are in reality...
Bring me a single word in Quran which gives the meaning of universe in which earth is included..

So.. For me Job verse is meant as Foundation of heavens trembled.. Not literally Pilars..

Correct me if I am mistaken, coz I can remember there is a verse in Quran it says something similar to it.. Earth and heavens trembled by their saying.. So if God used Heavens only it is enough to take as universe... But God used earth also... Do they separately tremble.. As well God says both earth and heavens shed tears.. Why God separate earth from heavens.. God could have simply said universe (heavens) didn't shed tears.. Ponder if you can

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Hi Jkhan;

Heavens = Universes

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611562.0

And the world is a rotating sphere, says the Qur'an.

You do not accept these truths that the Qur'an clearly states, but you believe in the false Bible's flat earth and one universe discourse.

So it's normal for you to disagree with what I'm saying here. Because you agree with the false Bible, not the Koran.

Peace

jkhan

Hi Jkhan;

Heavens = Universes

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611562.0

And the world is a rotating sphere, says the Qur'an.

You do not accept these truths that the Qur'an clearly states, but you believe in the false Bible's flat earth and one universe discourse.

So it's normal for you to disagree with what I'm saying here. Because you agree with the false Bible, not the Koran.

Peace

Salam...
Hi too...
Heavens (Samawathii plural form of sama) = Universe (earth sun moon's planets stars etc etc)
Are you out of your mind to claim so. ..
Haven't you ever come accross in Quran says samawathi Wal Ard together... So literally universe and Earth... Come have some sense in what you speak.. I hate nonsensical logic.. Speak of anything it doesn't matter but with some logic...

Did I tell that I follow bible in top of that as per you false Bible... I would have if I found it comprehensive and flawless... But it is not... But the verse you brought here from Job has something to ponder. For me it may mean foundation. Don't forget bible is a mixed up book it has some truth while it has some flaws since human infusion... But the verse in discussion here I think right..

May I know what Quran clearly states that earth is spinning... Don't drag me. It is my favorite topic.. Lol

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Hi Jkhan;

Heavens = Universes

https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611562.0

And the world is a rotating sphere, says the Qur'an.

You do not accept these truths that the Qur'an clearly states, but you believe in the false Bible's flat earth and one universe discourse.

So it's normal for you to disagree with what I'm saying here. Because you agree with the false Bible, not the Koran.

Peace

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All polytheistic religions, from Hinduism to New Age religion, worship many gods as a reflection or manifestation of the one God. Christianity has the same pagan doctrine. In fact, it is in itself a pantheistic philosophy.

As it is stated in the Holy Qur'an, the elite hid the Torah and the Gospel, they only shared some of its pages with humanity. So we don't have the Injeel or the Torah now.

And unfortunately, the people had to adopt the hadith books like Barnabas, Enoch, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, which were written by human beings, that is to say fake books, as Gospels. There are many more fake Gospels. But the pagan religious leaders adopted four of them and deceived people with these books. Whatever Bukhari or Tırmizi books are, these are the same. They are hadith books. Bible is not Torah or Injeel.

But some Christians, in spite of these pagan false books, realized that the belief in the trinity was a heresy and fought against this heresy. Because with the revelation inherent in their genes, man is inclined towards the truth. As long as he keeps his heart pure.(unitarians)

Almost all polytheistic religions have the same trap, that the demons are making them adopt the lie that there are multiple reflections of one God.

Hindus also think that they believe in one God, pantheists also, Christians also. They have been made to believe that the one God is manifested in different ways. From Indian religions to Far Eastern religions, they all have the same fallacy. People who worship idols actually believe in one God. All idols are manifestations or parts of the original God in paganism. Hindus or other idol worshippers say the same thing. So they have exactly the same belief as the lie they are being fed.

Satan cannot make people polytheists directly, for the most part. Because there is true knowledge/revelation in the genes of human beings and people innately know that there is only one God. That's why Satan insidiously makes people polytheistic. He says that the one God manifests in different ways. And he deceives the pagans mostly in this way. Hindus, Native Americans, Asian pagans, new age believers, Christians think they believe in one God, but in reality they are polytheists. They have associated partners with Allah, so you are in shirk.

Hindus "333 in 1"

Christians "3 in 1".

Pantheists "everything in 1"

New Agers "we are in 1"

This is paganism.

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Manifestations of Spiritualism in Christianity

https//www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3844.0

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https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.html

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