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Is God omnipresent?

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    Sarah
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    Peace

    Bonus Question

    What is meant by 'Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.'?

    Metaphor or literal as in He is energy?

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      Peace

      Bonus Question

      What is meant by 'Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.'?

      Metaphor or literal as in He is energy?

      Peace Sarah,

      Here is the definition of omnipresence

      om·ni·pres·ence
      /ˌämnəˈprez(ə)ns/
      Learn to pronounce
      noun
      the state of being widespread or constantly encountered.
      "the omnipresence of the internet in society today"
      the presence of God everywhere at the same time.

      As far as 'Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.'?
      Who/what else would be the Light of the heavens and the earth?
      Please supply verses of "energy" in Quran.

      Light is used literally in Quran

      We know that the sun literally
      gives us light. We know the moon and the stars give off light, but the light
      of Allah is different than those mentioned.

      Light is used as a simile, metaphor in Quran.

      Sahih International Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like....................

      Pickthall Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light .....................

      Yusuf Ali Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light .................

      Shakir Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light ...........................

      Muhammad Sarwar God is the light of the heavens and the earth. A metaphor for His light................

      peace

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        jkhan
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        The definition of "Allah" (Light)

        https//i.ibb.co/FgrS8Dk/allahmean.jpg

        I do not require any provision from them, nor do I require them to feed Me. (5157)

        rotfl rotfl

        1143 "Ilah annass.. Deity/God of Human"

        https//i.postimg.cc/sD68r0qP/anakin-liar.gif

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          shukri
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          That will certainly happen when stupid trying to interpret

          ie. the quranist/idiot interpretation methodology

          The above statement is a proof that you are not a god (of 300,000,000 gods).

          See this verse
          4911 O you who believe, no people shall ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or make fun of your names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors.

          The true believer or "god" which take the quran as his guidance will not mock one another as you did.
          You are a liar sir!

          "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred"

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            jkhan
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            That will certainly happen when stupid trying to interpret "legal document (Quran)",

            https//thumbs.gfycat.com/BlissfulUnimportantBronco-size_restricted.gif

            ie. the quranist/idiot interpretation methodology

            http//image.slidesharecdn.com/aidsofinterpretation-180908083111/95/aids-of-interpretation-13-638.jpg

            Sufi metaphysics

            https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_metaphysics

            The Sufi saint who is most characterized in discussing the ideology of Sufi metaphysics in deepest details is Ibn Arabi. He employs the term wujud to refer to God as the Necessary Being. He also attributes the term to everything other than God, but he insists that wujud does not belong to the things found in the cosmos in any real sense. Rather, the things borrow wujud from God, much as the earth borrows light from the sun. The issue is how wujūd can rightfully be attributed to the things, also called "entities" (aʿyān). From the perspective of tanzih, Ibn Arabi declares that wujūd belongs to God alone, and, in his famous phrase, the things "have never smelt a whiff of wujud." From the point of view of tashbih, he affirms that all things are wujūd's self-disclosure (tajalli) or self-manifestation (ẓohur). In sum, all things are "He/not He" (howa/lāhowa), which is to say that they are both God and not God, both wujud and not wujud. In his book Fasus –al-Hikam, Ibn-e-Arabi states that "wujūd is the unknowable and inaccessible ground of everything that exists. God alone is true wujūd, while all things dwell in nonexistence, so also wujūd alone is nondelimited (muṭlaq), while everything else is constrained, confined, and constricted. Wujūd is the absolute, infinite, nondelimited reality of God, while all others remain relative, finite, and delimited".
            https//www.ahmedhulusi.org/en/book/muhammads-allah/from-god-to-allah

            2133 "Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya'qub (Jacob)? When he said unto his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We shall worship your Ilah (God - Allah), the Ilah (God) of your fathers, Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), One Ilah (God), and to Him we submit (in Islam)."

            You only know to mock.. You are a pagan.. A modern day pagan.. Yeah.. You are a special kind of stupid... rotfl

            #a modern religious movement incorporating beliefs or practices from outside the main world religions, especially nature worship.
            "modern paganism includes a respect for mother earth"#

            This is your religion... You have no connection with the creator.. Coz you don't even believe in Creation.. Do you? Challenge you..Do you? If Yes who? rotfl

            On a day angels and Ruh ascend to God.. That's something like 50000 years.. May I know where they ascend.. To see whome? rotfl

            I have seen one guy here in our office like you. They play under the guise of others books.. But real pagan.. They worship nature... Nature is their Lord...

            You are exposed...

            https//i.postimg.cc/D0GxXLTx/7fea12e9-d7cb-411c-bbf8-560fc7a90ee4-text.gif

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              shukri
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              Reply #5 (https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611571.0)

              These people of ours have taken gods (moral relativism) apart from Him (moral universalism). Why do they not produce a clear authority concerning them? Who could do greater wrong than someone who invents a lie against Allah/ Way of Allah/ Sunnatullah? (1815)

              Why did you add "moral relativism" instead of gods and "moral universalism" instead of HIM (GOD)!
              Please remember these

              AQ 279 Therefore, woe to those who distort the scripture with their own hands, then say, "This is what God has revealed," seeking a cheap material gain. Woe to them for such distortion, and woe to them for their illicit gains.

              Take care!

              "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred"

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                jkhan
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                GA.. What else to say to you darling, after you've been exposed...

                Nature worshipper.. Buddy.. Just worship me.. I am also part of nature.. rotfl rotfl

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                  jkhan
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                  GA.. What else to say to you darling, after you've been exposed...

                  Nature worshipper.. Buddy.. Just worship me.. I am also part of nature.. rotfl rotfl

                  No scientific proof? 482 proof? Then you must be shaytan... rotfl

                  Shaytans from both mankind and from the jinn, who inspire each other with delusions by means of specious words (6112)

                  Who is shaitan dude.. Is my ARTIFICIAL / EVIL UNIVERSALISM?

                  rotfl rotfl

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                    jkhan
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                    Can you understand English? I'm asking you the scientific proof for your existence.. I'm not interested your "satanic language/religion ("inspire each other with delusions by means of specious words&quot! rotfl

                    Ahh.. You mean scientific proof? Oops forgot my existence? Whose existence dude? Do you recognize me to ask from me? Ask the one who exist? rotfl rotfl

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                      jkhan
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                      https//www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/20/205f1561ddb8fbe6382c699020f72b1b.jpeg

                      Yes.. Special kind of stupid are more tougher..

                      Asking from me about my existence.. What foolish question.. This is what most of the budhist do ask? Yeah you are also nature worshipper.. So.. You can..

                      Scientific proof? rotfl
                      Ask scientist? rotfl
                      Not from the one who doesn't exist in your language.. rotfl rotfl

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                        jkhan
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                        Then why argue with me with something you don't know and cannot prove? rotfl

                        https//www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/20/205f1561ddb8fbe6382c699020f72b1b.jpeg

                        Are you a proof collector...?
                        Or when proofs are submitted to you then have the power to Know that they are proof...
                        Are you a verifying machine? rotfl

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                          jkhan
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                          https//i.postimg.cc/sD68r0qP/anakin-liar.gif

                          How can liar prove anything... Even how many proofs are sent would you take them as proofs. Or you opt what suits for your survival rotfl

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                            shukri
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                            The above statement is a proof that you are not a god (of 300,000,000 gods).

                            See this verse
                            4911 O you who believe, no people shall ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or make fun of your names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors.

                            The true believer or "god" which take the quran as his guidance will not mock one another as you did.
                            You are a liar sir!

                            AQ 26221 Shall I inform you on whom the satans come down?
                            AQ 26222 They come down on every sinful liar.

                            Be careful GA

                            "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred"

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                              shukri
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                              GA,

                              Why don't you take any other Religious Texts as your guidance?

                              Bahá'i (The Seven Valleys And The Four Valleys)
                              Buddhism (The Tipitaka)
                              Christianity (The Bible); etc.

                              Why do you only take The Quran?

                              "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred"

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                                Emre_1974tr
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                                Please read Sarah;

                                https//emre1974tr-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2011/07/kuran-ve-nur.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=tr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=tr&_x_tr_pto=nui

                                And;

                                God is everywhere as observer and ruler, but physically outside our universe.

                                God created us out of nothing. That is, God is completely separate from His creation. That's why shirk is forbidden. Because there is no pantheism or panentheism.

                                Peace

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                                  Peace,

                                  Peace

                                  Bonus Question

                                  What is meant by 'Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.'?

                                  Metaphor or literal as in He is energy?

                                  8 17 It was not you who killed them, but it was God who killed them. And it was not you who launched when you did, but it was God who launched. And so that the believers would be tested well by Him. God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.

                                  941 Did We not comfort your chest,
                                  942 And take from you your burden,
                                  943 Which had put strain on your back?

                                  6719 Have they not looked to the birds lined-up together above them, and they contract? It is the Almighty who holds them. He is Seer of all things.

                                  36 He is the One who pictures you in the wombs as He pleases. There is no god except He, the Noble, the Wise

                                  2680 "And if I am sick, He is the One who cures me.

                                  937 And He found you lost, and He guided you?
                                  938 And He found you in need, so He gave you riches.

                                  3343 He is the One who yusallee (from salat) upon you, along with His angels, to bring you out of darkness and into the light. And He is ever Merciful towards the believers.

                                  3356 God and His angels yusalloona upon the prophet. O you who believe, you shall salloo upon him, and comply completely.

                                  The verses where God says he is closer to us than our jugular vein, he is the first and the last, the apparent and the intimate.

                                  16 “And He made the moon to illuminate in them, and He made the sun to be a lamp?”

                                  3969 And the earth will shine with the light of its Lord, and the record will be placed, and the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forth; and it will then be judged between them with the truth, and they will not be wronged.

                                  5526 Everyone upon it will fade away.
                                  5527 And the face of your Lord will remain; One with Majesty and Honor.

                                  We are intimately linked to Allah, and His creation, He is infinite, has power over the Whole.

                                  1120 In the name of Allah, the Almighty, the Merciful.
                                  1121 Say “He is Allah, the One,”
                                  1122 “Allah, the Indivisible,”
                                  1123 “He does not beget, nor was He begotten,”
                                  1124 “And there is none who is His equal.”

                                  There is no God only Allah, indivisible.

                                  the oneness of Allah = the non-duality, He is Allah, the One.

                                  2055 From it We created you and in it We return you, and from it We bring you out another time.

                                  And the face of your Lord will remain.

                                  Salam

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                                    shukri
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                                    Bro GA,

                                    If I want to be like you (one of 300,000,000 gods), what should I do?
                                    OR that's merely a gift from God for the chosen one?
                                    Just for my curiosity!

                                    "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred"

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                                      jkhan
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                                      GA..

                                      SUN sun is Light & Energy.. Isn't it?
                                      Then why Sun is not your God?.. on top of that you can observe the object Sun and its Light and its Energy. And most significantly, without Sun no life is possible.. Why not Allah = SUN?
                                      Why just Energy.. then what happened to naturalism = Allah?

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                                        jkhan
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                                        on top of that you can observe the object Sun and its Light and its Energy. And most significantly, without Sun no life is possible.. Why not Allah = SUN?
                                        Why just Energy.. then what happened to naturalism = Allah?

                                        Yes, it's that stupid...

                                        let's keep the stupidity of both aside.. cool..

                                        who is allah? rotfl

                                        Naturalism = Allah
                                        Energy / Light = Allah

                                        which one should choose? ignore

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                                          jkhan
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                                          who is allah? rotfl

                                          Naturalism = Allah
                                          Energy / Light = Allah

                                          which one should choose? ignore

                                          Go study basic science, I mean.. kindergarten scientific stuff.. rotfl

                                          https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/lehrrZ1OVFgPd0HCG4cywn-BggFCd5ydP_t-wffFDZr2tC0S4Hsuwqlt4xKtGI3qNVmxzi-VlvvN6z755tV4bns7FIt_DL7InDwg9XawzFcLx99JL2Y4dnEU4QWqY9BoVGU

                                          Your gifs won't make any meaning for me.. Just answer like a good boy rotfl

                                          are you a good boy confused

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