The Universe
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Peace jkhan.
GOD gave us each ears, eyes and a brain. Then He sent us scriptures. Does that mean we use each other ears, eyes and brain to agree everything?So ,it is only natural to have differences in Qoran, science and beliefs.
This subject is different from GOD specifically giving us limits and commands.
This subject is to do with both . How to use Qoran plus our faculties. I find Qoran and science here agree.
And you find otherwise.
What is the issue then?
GOD bless you.
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And I am the first person in the world to discover it(NASA's invention was published after my writing). The Qur'an is truly a book full of evidence.
By the way, the holy Quran also uses the term lamp for our sun. In addition, by using the expression lamp for all the stars in other verses, he also informs that all stars are actually suns. In other words, it states that the sun is also a star/lamp.
And by stating that the fire atmosphere above the stars resembles hell, the Qur'an offers us another miracle.
Peace
As is known, the Qur'an describes how everything was created in pairs, that is, in more than one number
Yasin
36 Praise be to the One who has created all pairs from what the earth sprouts out and from themselves, and from what they do not know.Zariyat
49 And We created everything in pairs, so that you may take counsel.In this context; Since the universe is also a created servant, it should not be unique and only one. All created beings are paired. After the Apocalypse, only the "Floor of the Lord", that is, the Universes of the Hereafter, will remain, but he will still be living with those in more than one universe (the verses emphasize that the "heavens of the hereafter" and the "earths" will exist forever).
In short; These verses also offer another, albeit indirect, explanation of the creation of more than one universe.
Only God is unique. It is the case that the servants created by Allah have spouses (same or opposite), that is, more than one of them.
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As is known, the Qur'an describes how everything was created in pairs, that is, in more than one number
Yasin
36 Praise be to the One who has created all pairs from what the earth sprouts out and from themselves, and from what they do not know.Zariyat
49 And We created everything in pairs, so that you may take counsel.In this context; Since the universe is also a created servant, it should not be unique and only one. All created beings are paired.
In short; These verses also offer another, albeit indirect, explanation of the creation of more than one universe.
Previously you said (https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611665.10)
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The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
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It is difficult to follow your logic 2 universes or 7 then? Don't you see the contradiction in your words or at least the ambiguity?I hope you will get rid of your superstitions and see the reality of the multiverse, multi-planet, and the living creatures that live there,The earth is a spinning globe as it is said in the Qur'an.
Where the Quran describes the earth as a "spinning globe" ?
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Peace jkhan.
GOD gave us each ears, eyes and a brain. Then He sent us scriptures. Does that mean we use each other ears, eyes and brain to agree everything?So ,it is only natural to have differences in Qoran, science and beliefs.
This subject is different from GOD specifically giving us limits and commands.
This subject is to do with both . How to use Qoran plus our faculties. I find Qoran and science here agree.
And you find otherwise.
What is the issue then?
GOD bless you.
[Peace.3967 They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!
419 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals?
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Hallo.... everyone..
peace..1005 "It is God who has made the sun radiant and the moon Light and has appointed for the moon phases so that you may compute the number of years and other reckonings. God has created them for a genuine purpose. He explains the evidence (of His existence) to the people of knowledge.
1006 "Indeed, in the alternation of the night and the day and what Allah has created in the heavens and the earth are signs for a people who fear Allah
Now, as per 1006 Are we take signs according to science or on the reality? How come the sign of God go totally contrary... Coz night and day happens coz earth spin and rotates on its axis... Is that a sign for those who fear Allah or Sun in sailing away from us so that night falls on us and day appears to others..? Which one is sign for those who FEAR Allah?
as per 1005 God created PHASES to MOON in order that years are computed? Clearly we can see there is no phase for sun... Why Earth has phases, why other Planets have phases as per accepted science... Who speaks the truth? Quran through God or Science...
Is this the science we say tally or go in line with Quran?
in the universe, isn't the Earth a shining Light? isn't earth in Universe? lol... where is your wits folks?
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Peace jkhan
You mean there is no relation between the day/night ,the sun and moon?
How do the moon phases happen?
Ponder this relationship
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We rendered the night and the day two signs. We made the night dark, and the day lighted, that you may seek provisions from your Lord therein. This also establishes for you a timing system -Sineen 0f the moon phases-, and the means of calculation- like aam ,the solar years...-. We thus explain everything in detail.
GOD bless you.
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Peace jkhan
You mean there is no relation between the day/night ,the sun and moon?Did i ever say so.,...... why go offline...just stick with what i write ....
Peace jkhan
How do the moon phases happen?
For you and those who are depending on Nasa and so called scientists, it is easy isn't it... needles s to explain...
God specifically mentioned that Moon has phases.. God never mentioned for any other .. That's what we also see even with any telescope or latest modern cameras... He says He assigned to moon phases stating the purpose of assigning.. Further God clearly stated Moon is a LIGHT... (MUNIIR)... No need another interpretation for that... So moon has its own light..
Further He says until it returns (like) date stalk... It is clear Moon is created with light and it is changing on its own the phases.. it has no connection whatsoever with Sun for it to look different in shape throughout the month... That's Quran..Why one would change clear verses of Quran? Why Munir becomes reflected lights in translations? It is coz of science none other coz of science.... God guides with His book...
calling His creations something else, while His creations are signs to FEAR Allah.. That's so strange... So you fear God Thinking that Earth is spinning and while i am not... How can that is possible... can one fear God while embracing the lie with him... impossible as simple as that...
None of Nur verses is no way nearing the meaning of REFLECTED LIGHT... if it is not reflected light then try to understand what moon is through quran... why depend on science to claim it is a reflected light...impossible...
one of the yester year scientist from australia even stated moon is a plasma but such things all are easily rejecting why...? coz he was not famous...lol
3969 And the earth will shine with the light (NUR) of its Lord,
now look at above verse... Earth will shine coz of another light... that's really reflection... God clearly used the word Coz Earth doesn't have it's own light...But God didn't say Moon shines coz of Sun.. Ponder dudes... just simply ponder..
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As is known, the Qur'an describes how everything was created in pairs, that is, in more than one number
Yasin
36 Praise be to the One who has created all pairs from what the earth sprouts out and from themselves, and from what they do not know.Zariyat
49 And We created everything in pairs, so that you may take counsel.In this context; Since the universe is also a created servant, it should not be unique and only one. All created beings are paired. After the Apocalypse, only the "Floor of the Lord", that is, the Universes of the Hereafter, will remain, but he will still be living with those in more than one universe (the verses emphasize that the "heavens of the hereafter" and the "earths" will exist forever).
In short; These verses also offer another, albeit indirect, explanation of the creation of more than one universe.
Only God is unique. It is the case that the servants created by Allah have spouses (same or opposite), that is, more than one of them.
These verses provide yet another proof that there is more than one number of planets and stars as well as universes. As long as you don't turn your back on the Qur'an.
Peace
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These verses provide yet another proof that there is more than one number of planets and stars as well as universes. As long as you don't turn your back on the Qur'an.
nope,
Peace, you mix the subjects at your whim (self-persuasion)But stay coherent and answers the below question please
Previously you said (https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611665.10)
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The Qur'an offers a multi-universe model.
But it is not infinite.
Seven universes, for example.
Other universes have planets too.
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It is difficult to follow your logic TWO universes or SEVEN then? Don't you see the contradiction in your words or at least the ambiguity? -
These verses provide yet another proof that there is more than one number of planets and stars as well as universes. As long as you don't turn your back on the Qur'an.
Peace
And my Turkish article translated with machine
Surah Noah 16 "And he made the Moon a light in them, and made the Sun a lamp."
As is known, in this verse there is an emphasis on the fact that the Sun is a cosmic lamp that produces light, whereas the Moon only reflects the incoming light.
In addition, miraculously, the other stars in the sky are also said to be gigantic lamps producing light in the Qur'an
Surah Mulk 5 We have adorned the nearest sky with lamps and made them grains of fire for the devils. We have also prepared the torment of wild fire for those devils.
Surah Saffat 6 We adorned that near sky with an ornament, with stars.
Fussilet Surah 12 Thus, he appreciated them as seven heavens in two days and revealed to each sky its own work and being. And We have adorned the sky closest to the earth with lamps and a protection. These things are the discretion of the One who is Aziz and Alim.
In this and similar verses, it is said that the stars we see are actually suns, or if we think on the contrary, our Sun is also a star. In addition, the information that there is a "flame" on this Sun and other stars is clearly presented. There is even a reference to the information that the environment above the stars resembles hell...
It was not well known to people in those days that the stars far away also harbored flames and had an infernal fire structure.
By the way, the expression "necm" for stars and "kevkeb" for planets is used in the Qur'an.
In addition, just as scientists say today, the knowledge that these stars will lose their light and come to an end on the Day of Judgment was also revealed to us by our Lord
Surah Mursalat 8 When the light of the stars is extinguished
After this information about the stars, let's look again at the information given by the Qur'an regarding the structure of our world
Naziat Surah 30 After that, he spread the ground and made it round in the shape of an ostrich egg.
Although he understands from this verse that the world was created in the shape of a geoid, just like an egg, his point is not limited to this. Because the world is similar to the egg with its internal structure as well as its external appearance.
Yes, the egg and the world are alike.
First of all, if we consider it in terms of appearance;
The belly part of both, namely the equator, is wider than the poles.
From the bulging part towards the poles, it gets smaller and smaller, again in both.
So there is absolutely parallelism in shape. And the egg is one of the best examples to be given to explain this geoid shape of the earth.
Apart from this, the egg reminds us of our world with its internal structure as well as its external structure.
An egg has a dark yolk in the middle.
There is a very runny white layer (flux) around this central yellow.
The outermost part has a thin crust.In the center of our world, there is the nucleus (which corresponds to the yolk of the egg in appearance and structure)
There is a molten mantle layer around the nucleus (which roughly corresponds to the egg white)
And in the outermost part, there is the thin crust (which corresponds to the thin shell of the egg)http//www.burkemuseum.org/static/earthquakes/bigone/images/egg.gif
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2012/01/mucizelerin-devam.html
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Naziat Surah 30 After that, he spread the ground and made it round in the shape of an ostrich egg.
Although he understands from this verse that the world was created in the shape of a geoid, just like an egg, his point is not limited to this. Because the world is similar to the egg with its internal structure as well as its external appearance.nope
(79304) daḥāhā - Verb (form I)
it does not mean an ostrich egg !
Lane Lexicon https//www.haqeeqat.pk/roots/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/79.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%2079/5.%20Dahaha%20Daal%20He%20Waw-Ya/5.%20Lane.htm
=> Verb (form I) دَحَا دحا , (S, Msb, K,) first pers. دَحَوْتُ, (S,) aor. يَدْحُو, (Msb, K,) inf. n. دَحْوٌ, (S, Msb, K,) He spread; spread out, or forth; expanded; or extended; (S, Msb, K a thing; (S and, when said of God, the earth; (Fr, S, Msb, K as also دَحَى, (Msb, K,) first pers. دَحَيْتُ, (K in art. دحى,) aor. يَدْحَى, inf. n. دَحْىٌ (Msb, and K in art. دحى) or He (God) made the earth wide, or ample; as explained by an Arab woman of the desert to Sh (TA) also, said of an ostrich, (S, TA,) he expanded, and made wide, (TA,) with his foot, or leg, the place where he was about to deposit his eggs (S, * TA) and, said of a man, he spread, &c., and made plain, even, or smooth.
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By the way, the expression "necm" for stars and "kevkeb" for planets is used in the Qur'an.
This is what happens when indoctrinated with science fictions...You are blinded while having eyesight...
brother... In general Everything is Najm (Stars) in Quran apart from Sun and Moon... that's incontrovertible ..
yes.. Allah has used different words in certain places such Kawkab etc.. but they are none but Stars only...If NAJM = STARS
and KAWKABAN = PLANET
you have to seriously ponder with science and go off track with science as well...
No planets change it's route of floating.. Do they? Planets are not something that would chase Satan or Jinn or devils... lol To do that they have change directions on its own..376 Indeed, We have adorned the nearest heaven with an adornment of stars (KAWAKIB)
377 And as protection against every rebellious devil
378 they may not listen to the exalted assembly and are pelted from every side,Look at carefully everyone, some of the functions of KAWKAB (stars) is adornment and protection and chasing devil... Not every star are same and created for same purpose... Do we see regular stars positioned in the sky change its position or chase anything.. No...
But All Najm / Kawkab all stars, star family... They all are self illuminated ... That's why they are called twinkle twinkle LITTLE STARS...Lol..Your science says that PLANETS have no lights of its own...That's the accepted truth of your own science that your are deep rooted.. So Why would KAWKAB/PLANETS chase Devil without any fire or light power behind them... on top of that, they are huge in size and bigger than the size of so called planet earth... so why would such huge planets chase satan.. rotfl rotfl rotfl
BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU MAKE STATEMENTS... BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU MAKE STATEMENTS
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And my Turkish article translated with machine
Surah Noah 16 "And he made the Moon a light in them, and made the Sun a lamp."
As is known, in this verse there is an emphasis on the fact that the Sun is a cosmic lamp that produces light, whereas the Moon only reflects the incoming light.
In addition, miraculously, the other stars in the sky are also said to be gigantic lamps producing light in the Qur'an
Surah Mulk 5 We have adorned the nearest sky with lamps and made them grains of fire for the devils. We have also prepared the torment of wild fire for those devils.
Surah Saffat 6 We adorned that near sky with an ornament, with stars.
Fussilet Surah 12 Thus, he appreciated them as seven heavens in two days and revealed to each sky its own work and being. And We have adorned the sky closest to the earth with lamps and a protection. These things are the discretion of the One who is Aziz and Alim.
In this and similar verses, it is said that the stars we see are actually suns, or if we think on the contrary, our Sun is also a star. In addition, the information that there is a "flame" on this Sun and other stars is clearly presented. There is even a reference to the information that the environment above the stars resembles hell...
It was not well known to people in those days that the stars far away also harbored flames and had an infernal fire structure.
By the way, the expression "necm" for stars and "kevkeb" for planets is used in the Qur'an.
In addition, just as scientists say today, the knowledge that these stars will lose their light and come to an end on the Day of Judgment was also revealed to us by our Lord
Surah Mursalat 8 When the light of the stars is extinguished
After this information about the stars, let's look again at the information given by the Qur'an regarding the structure of our world
Naziat Surah 30 After that, he spread the ground and made it round in the shape of an ostrich egg.
Although he understands from this verse that the world was created in the shape of a geoid, just like an egg, his point is not limited to this. Because the world is similar to the egg with its internal structure as well as its external appearance.
Yes, the egg and the world are alike.
First of all, if we consider it in terms of appearance;
The belly part of both, namely the equator, is wider than the poles.
From the bulging part towards the poles, it gets smaller and smaller, again in both.
So there is absolutely parallelism in shape. And the egg is one of the best examples to be given to explain this geoid shape of the earth.
Apart from this, the egg reminds us of our world with its internal structure as well as its external structure.
An egg has a dark yolk in the middle.
There is a very runny white layer (flux) around this central yellow.
The outermost part has a thin crust.In the center of our world, there is the nucleus (which corresponds to the yolk of the egg in appearance and structure)
There is a molten mantle layer around the nucleus (which roughly corresponds to the egg white)
And in the outermost part, there is the thin crust (which corresponds to the thin shell of the egg)http//www.burkemuseum.org/static/earthquakes/bigone/images/egg.gif
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2012/01/mucizelerin-devam.html
And;
Quran 822 And if the planets were scattered.
free-roaming planets.
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/planets.html
Venus in Quran
Quran 674-79
Abraham said to his father Azar, “Do you take idols for gods? I see that you and your people are in evident error.” Thus We showed Abraham the empire of the heavens and the earth, that he might be one of those with certainty. When the night fell over him, he saw a planet. He said, “This is my lord.” But when it set, he said, “I do not love those that set.” Then, when he saw the moon rising, he said, “This is my lord.” But when it set, he said, “If my Lord does not guide me, I will be one of the erring people.” Then, when he saw the sun rising, he said, “This is my lord, this is bigger.” But when it set, he said, “O my people, I am innocent of your idolatry. I have directed my attention towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth—a monotheist—and I am not of the idolaters.”
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/venus.html
EARTH IS ROTATING SPHERE
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.html
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7927 Are you a more strong creation or is the heaven/Sama? God constructed it.
7928 He raised ITS ceiling and proportioned it.Just simply give a thought… reflect upon the simple of simple matters which would give vast meaning hidden in them… without reason God has not placed words unless He would have omitted…
In verse 7927 God questions… Question is emphasized to SAMA / Heaven / Sky.. Manifestly He claims for Its Construction…
Then in 7928 He refers to SAMA and uses the word ITS … what He says.. ITS Samka-Ceiling/Vault / Canopy.. Now any rational person would pose a question… what is (ITS Samka) while Heaven (allegedly Universe) is endless and not a construction… God perceptibly stated He built the Sky .. Perhaps if He worded like in 7928 “He raised IT and proportioned it” without stating ITS Samka… Then one would reflect otherwise… But He worded ITS Samka/Ceiling… The word ‘ITS’ is an outright proof that God has constructed a solid sky and then raised ITS ceiling high and proportioned and protected…. So manifest… isn’t it? According to science and fancy pictures of Universe, We don’t see any resemblance to 7927-28..
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- Watch a ship sail off to sea
Without being in the sky, it is impossible to see the curvature of the Earth. However, you can always see a demonstration of this if you visit a harbor or any place with a wide-open view of the water.
If you are able to watch a ship sail off to sea, watch its mast and flag as it fades off into the distance. You will notice that, in fact, it does not "fade off into the distance" at all; instead, you will see its mast and flag appear to slowly sink. The ship sailed beyond the point at which you would see it. Just to be sure, bring a pair of binoculars with you so that you can see even farther off into the distance.
It's as if you're watching it go over to the other side of a hill. This phenomenon can only be explained by a sphere-shaped planet.
above is the best explanation of the Globe Earthers.. All scientists say the same..
Let me ask those who are open and rational in their reflection…
Have you ever witnessed a ship sailing and disappear at the horizon? Perhaps most of you..
The possible distance that you see with your naked eye roughly 5kms.. First you see the mast disappear and the flag… BUT have you ever noticed how long it takes it to disappear? I saw a huge ship perhaps 7 floors in it and it reached to the extreme horizon to our naked eye… Then it took only one minute to disappear from my eyes.. Approximately ship may be 100 feet since it had 7 floors… So my coherent question to all those use their own wits is how can such a tall ship disappear that quickly coz of curvature of the earth?
Suppose if you see a man in a 50 feet hill and if he goes down from the hill to other side, first you will see his legs disappear and up until his hips and shoulder and head…it depends on how steep/slope the hill is? If the hill is 45 degree from all angel you will see him disappear so fast if he walk in normal pace…So apply the same logic for ship and horizon? How can such a tall ship disappear for the reason of curvature of the earth which is just at the distance of 5 kms? So at 5 km distance we see 100 feet slop / steep or rather curvature? That’s total rubbish.. (Coz science say only 8 inches for every mile).. contrary to that if such a slope is there at 5 km distance, then if you look at the area where ship disappeared from an altitude you should inevitably observe a big steep/slope ..
So it is obvious it is not the reason of curvature but it is the maximum distance in which objects (moving/ship) disappear for naked eye..
- Watch a ship sail off to sea
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And;
Quran 822 And if the planets were scattered.
free-roaming planets.
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/planets.html
Venus in Quran
Quran 674-79
Abraham said to his father Azar, “Do you take idols for gods? I see that you and your people are in evident error.” Thus We showed Abraham the empire of the heavens and the earth, that he might be one of those with certainty. When the night fell over him, he saw a planet. He said, “This is my lord.” But when it set, he said, “I do not love those that set.” Then, when he saw the moon rising, he said, “This is my lord.” But when it set, he said, “If my Lord does not guide me, I will be one of the erring people.” Then, when he saw the sun rising, he said, “This is my lord, this is bigger.” But when it set, he said, “O my people, I am innocent of your idolatry. I have directed my attention towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth—a monotheist—and I am not of the idolaters.”
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/venus.html
EARTH IS ROTATING SPHERE
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/earth.html
Peace
Age Of Universe
3 times Age of Earth.
Quran 754
And your Lord, Allah, who created the Heavens and the Earth in six days and then settled on the Throne. Covers the night with the day, asks for it persistently; and the sun and the moon and the stars enslaved by His orders. Is this not His creation and His command? Blessed be Allah the Lord of all the worlds.Quran 419
Say "Is it that you deny Him who created the Earth in two days? And you claim others to be equal to Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds."Quran 5038
And we have created the Heavens and Earth and EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN in six days and We were not touched by fatigue.The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.
So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.
Today, science also gives a similar knowledge Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....
In other words, science indicates that the age of our universe is 3 times the age of our Earth(4.5 X 3 = 13.5).
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/age_of_universe.html
Peace
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Today, science also gives a similar knowledge Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....
peace, they don't know that; it allows looking back in time ~13.8 billion years
if over 14 billion years the light cannot ever reach us due to space expansionthread is all over the place; definitions
1616 وبالنجم wabil-najmi/and by the star
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الشمس the sun ضىا diyaan/luminescence of (gives off light)
والقمر and the moon نورا nuran/light of (a light)4174 وانزلنا and descends we of الىكم to you نورا nuran/light of (metaphor; receives enlightenment)
2561
بروجا burujan/constructs of (constellations)
سرجا sirajan/radiant of (the sun)
منىرا muniran/illuminate of (the moon)3346
وسرجا wasirajan/and radiant of (metaphor; gives enlightenment)
منىرا muniran/illuminate of (metaphor; receives enlightenment)822 واذا and when of الكوكب l-kawakibu/the cosmic objects (planets, comets, meteorites, etc.)
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peace, they don't know that; it allows looking back in time ~13.8 billion years
if over 14 billion years the light cannot ever reach us due to space expansionthread is all over the place; definitions
1616 وبالنجم wabil-najmi/and by the star
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الشمس the sun ضىا diyaan/luminescence of (gives off light)
والقمر and the moon نورا nuran/light of (a light)4174 وانزلنا and descends we of الىكم to you نورا nuran/light of (metaphor; receives enlightenment)
2561
بروجا burujan/constructs of (constellations)
سرجا sirajan/radiant of (the sun)
منىرا muniran/illuminate of (the moon)3346
وسرجا wasirajan/and radiant of (metaphor; gives enlightenment)
منىرا muniran/illuminate of (metaphor; receives enlightenment)822 واذا and when of الكوكب l-kawakibu/the cosmic objects (planets, comets, meteorites, etc.)
It is easy to make assumptions. . But assumptions are not equal to truth...
That's why I always say all that glitters are star family in the sky.. But not all same. Quran is very clear with it...
I will give you a great example... Have you ever noticed that whether God has said We Decorated NEAREST HEAVEN with NAJM/STAR? ... No... For me I didn't observe such a verse.. But God always used He decorated Sama Dunya / nearest heaven with Kawkaban or masabeeh... This is a clear indication that edge of constructed heaven (canopy roughly) is well protected with kawkaban and they are masabeeh... And they are not regular najm/stars which you see floating in its orbit fixed.. Regular stars are in cluster buruj /constellation. Have Allah ever said I decorated nearest heaven with buruj? No. This NEAREST word is missing with Najm.. That's so glaring..
God clearly indicated that buruj as constellation or stars /najm are within the range of Sun and moon.. We placed in the midst of sky Sun and moon and constellation / buruj.. ie stars.. Perfect.. That's the truth.. So sun moon and buruj (all stars) are positioned in the sky not Earth ..
Has Allah ever said that He subjected for us Kawkaban / Masabeeh.. They are not subjected for us.. It has different function...
Perfect explanation from Allah...
High solid construction sky.. Underneath it well protected with kawkaban /masabeeh and at the same time it looks decorated and they are used as projectiles to chase whoever encroach to the nearest heaven /solid construction... Do you find this in science? No..
In the mean time sun moon and stars are placed well below and subjected to us.. There is no point or sense stating we placed in the sky Sun and moon and stars while we are spinning.. Hilarious and nonsensical...But kawkab / masabeeh / najm / buruj all star family.. Functions and purpose and features may differ.. They all look to those who observe are shining and beautiful....
Claiming Nur as light of light with Hippocratic way by not saying reflected light is sheer shame.. God said He has light (nur) is it light (of light) . Whose light is that God possess? Lol.. -
Age Of Universe
3 times Age of Earth.
Quran 754
And your Lord, Allah, who created the Heavens and the Earth in six days and then settled on the Throne. Covers the night with the day, asks for it persistently; and the sun and the moon and the stars enslaved by His orders. Is this not His creation and His command? Blessed be Allah the Lord of all the worlds.Quran 419
Say "Is it that you deny Him who created the Earth in two days? And you claim others to be equal to Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds."Quran 5038
And we have created the Heavens and Earth and EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN in six days and We were not touched by fatigue.The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.
So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.
Today, science also gives a similar knowledge Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....
In other words, science indicates that the age of our universe is 3 times the age of our Earth(4.5 X 3 = 13.5).
https//www.miracles-of-quran.com/age_of_universe.html
Peace
419 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."
4110 And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its sustenance in four days without distinction - for of those who ask.
4111 Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come , willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."
4112 And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.Are the above verses really teach you 45 billion years for Earth and 13.5 billion for heaven... How funny you are.. So scientists knew the Ghaib and you hold their tail saying come on guys let's go together with your science and and our quran we are part and parcel in your belief... God save you...
