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Project: 'Root List'

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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    peace all,

    I discussed this with Anwar briefly, under the Lane's Lexicon' thread. Quite simply, I (with the help of others) hope to identify all roots used in al-Quran, list their possible meanings and occurrences in an online dictionary. In English-Arabic.

    I need volunteers.

    I know the following people have access to lexicons

    Layth, Ayman, mh, Anwar, Dulqarnain, Marie, Gentile, Nasser, myself

    If the above mentioned people could get back to me, I'd appreciate it. If any others wish to help, please come forward.

    Using sites like Burhan's (or not), one can easily divide the number of roots between us and get started.
    We could get a rough draft of about 500 roots within a year, GW.

    I can manage all the website stuff, all I need is participants to post the roots they look up. Once we get a rough draft, we can combine lexicons and add to the meanings if they are covered better in some etc.

    Wakas

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Wakas
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      Project Root List release 2 (zip file)

      250+ roots complete.

      To begin, unzip and click on file named "list_roots".

      To contribute, one needs a decent lexicon, Dictionary of Quran (QD) is acceptable, just pm me.

      Wakas

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        el-Aziz
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        Maybe this can be helpful?

        http//www.geckil.com/~harvest/arabic/arabverb.pdf

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          Wakas
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          peace be upon you All,

          Project Root List release 3

          ~340 roots complete

          Wakas

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            tux
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            peace be upon you All,

            Project Root List release 3 (zip file)

            ~340 roots complete

            To begin, unzip and click on file named "list_roots".

            Wakas

            God bless you Wakas

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              Natu
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              Peace.

              I want to get into this project right now, but I don't have access to a lexicon. Which lexicon would you recommend I buy, so that I can participate in this project?

              I have worked out that you don't really need to learn Arabic to be able to hold a discussion (salat wink ) with confidence, all you need is some kind of knowledge of sentence structure and access to a lexicon. Since this project is not yet complete, I would like to offer my time to help get this complete so that many more brothers and sisters can have a decent opportunity to discuss things on free minds using the specific Arabic involved. I am very grateful to those who began this project for coming up with such a good idea. God willing, I will attempt to contribute as much as I can.

              I tried to download release 3, but the zip file seems to be corrupt, I have tried several times to the same result. Is there something wrong with the zip file or my computer? Release 2 works, so it is likely that the zip file for release 3 is corrupt. Please look into it. Thanks.

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                Wakas
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                peace brother Natu,

                Well, if you do not read Arabic, it looks like Lane's Lexicon is your best bet, as its in English. The CD Rom is pretty cheap, especially with the current exchange rate ($150~?85). I dont mind helping out with cost, if its a problem.

                I know brother Aaron downloaded PRLr3.zip about 8 days ago, he had no problems. I tried it just now and it worked for me. If no-one else comes forth with a problem, its likely its your PC. How about trying other zip programs?

                PM me with any problems.

                Wakas

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  Natu
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                  Peace be upon you.

                  Has anyone come across the following websites...

                  http//dictionary.sakhr.com/

                  http//195.217.167.3/dict_page.html

                  Do you think they are any good?

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                    gclandcp
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                    Salam Wakas

                    Is the root word ?J N B? (junub) on verse 443 the same as verse 2811?

                    Regards

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                      Wakas
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                      peace,

                      Jiim-Nun-Ba taken from openburhan
                      http//www.irreduciblefifth.force9.co.uk/burhan/b.x.440.htm

                      Yes, JuNuB (noun masculine) occurs in 436, 443, 56, 2811. The following additional notes are taken from CofQ adjective - defiled, (with preposition 'an') - from afar.

                      Wakas

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        unknownuser
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                        Peace be upon you Wakas,

                        I am finally up and running on a good computer, can you please foward me the link to the latest "root" index?

                        Thanks Bro.

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                          Wakas
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                          peace be upon you Kyle,

                          The latest link is still the one here, see the file on the following page
                          http//mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/think-786/ProjectRootList.htm

                          Wakas

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            Wakas
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                            peace be upon you all,

                            I am pleased to announce, PRL will go live online by late summer (and will be updated more frequently), unless The God wills otherwise.

                            Wakas

                            http//mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/think-786/solid_cemented_structure.JPG

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              unknownuser
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                              Peace be upon you Wakas,

                              Great news! May the God bless you.

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                                Wakas
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                                peace Kyle, all,

                                PRL is now online. Please see the link on the following page

                                www.studyquran.org

                                Wakas

                                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                  Asim_Iqbal
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                                  Assalam-u-alaikum!

                                  Peace / safety be with you !

                                  PRL MashaALLAH !

                                  Excellent idea, which should be followed by a comprehensive content and high quality implementation !

                                  I don't have Lane's Lexicon yet and I should InshaALLAH be able to buy it in a year. Is there any more Lexicon that is compulsary for participating in this project. Any way I want to help out in this project some way.

                                  arrow I think any one who is searching the meanings of roots in this project must have Lane's Lexicon (Compulsary in my opinion) along with some other detailed lexicon (Is there any original and detailed lexicon of Qur'anic and Classical Arabic to English? as the comments about that other lexicon don't make it seem so original and pure.

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                                    Wakas
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                                    peace be upon you Asim,

                                    No Lexicon is compulsory for this project. The only reason Lane was suggested (for brother Natu for example) was that Arabic-English for him was the best way to go. Some contributers are not using Lane, but other classical Arabic lexicons.

                                    One does not need a lexicon to contribute.

                                    One can use 'Dictionary of Quran' if one wishes, as entries will be supplemented by other Lexicons anyway. Plus, it provides grammar information which will be added to PRL also.

                                    If you wish to buy Lane's Lexicon, there is a cheap supplier in Karachi, Pakistan, that is where I got mine. You'd have to track them down though. You could ask albalagh for details.

                                    I am planning to put Lane's Lexicon online and CD/DVD for free by the end of the year, thus you may not wish to buy the paper version.

                                    Wakas

                                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                      Asim_Iqbal
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                                      Assalam-u-alaikum !

                                      peace/safety be with you (all) !

                                      How will different lexicons be used in supplementing entries in PRL. I would like to know some more detail ?

                                      $175 for Lane's Lexicon, looks far cheaper than that $450 Lexicon that I saw on the net and after that I found your post about Lane's Lexicon and then ultimately visited your web site and got highly interested in both the projects. How is the quality of this Lexicon i.e. it is atleast 2.5 times cheaper than that 2 version Lexicon.

                                      I would like some details about the working of this project and all possible options of helping out in each of the projects.

                                      Also tell me the names of other lexicons involved in this project and the unique benefits that they provide.

                                      How much time is the root translating phase expected to go .

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                                        Asim_Iqbal
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                                        You can add the link to www.aswatalislam.net on your web site resources if you like. Each and every lecture can be freely downloaded and distributed etc...

                                        More than 250 different Audio recitations (all freely downloadable)

                                        • video recitation
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                                          Wakas
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                                          peace be upon you Asim,

                                          How will different lexicons be used in supplementing entries in PRL. I would like to know some more detail

                                          Quite simply more lexicons = more information = higher quality.

                                          How is the quality of this Lexicon i.e. it is atleast 2.5 times cheaper than that 2 version Lexicon.

                                          I have been lucky enough to read and use both. The quality depends on the publisher. The two version one I read was by the Islamic Texts Society, it was very good quality but very small writing.
                                          The 8 volume Lane on albalagh is good quality, not excellent, but still easily readable.

                                          I would like some details about the working of this project and all possible options of helping out in each of the projects.

                                          I will let you know once you email me with your resources, if any.

                                          Also tell me the names of other lexicons involved in this project and the unique benefits that they provide.

                                          One example, Lisanul Arab. The only stipulation is that they are classical Arabic lexicons. Main benefits = more information = higher quality.

                                          How much time is the root translating phase expected to go .

                                          Depends on entirely how many people and how much effort is put in. It will be completed in stages. The concordance and Lane online should be complete by the end of the year, GW. And in the meantime the grammar and meanings will be updated.

                                          It could take about 2 years for everything to be done. I have added to PRL significantly since its conception.

                                          Wakas

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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