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Al Hajj is The Fulfilment of The Covenant that performed in AMAH.

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    peace,
    I only skim read it. Can you elaborate on the methodology you used to write it?

    As an example, here is my methodology
    http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Salam,

      As you don’t read it you miss the point.

      Your methodology only fit to "the muhkamat verses", but totally not fit to "the mutasyabihat verses", and seems you treat all verses in Al Quran as “muhkamat”.

      Salam

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        peace,

        Your methodology only fit to "the muhkamat verses", but totally not fit to "the mutasyabihat verses", and seems you treat all verses in Al Quran as “muhkamat”.

        Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by "mutasyabihat" and "muhkamat", as in how you understand those terms.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          peace,
          Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by "mutasyabihat" and "muhkamat", as in how you understand those terms.

          Peace brother Wakas,

          The typical of “muhkamat verses” Those verses that clear to understand by study the root of the words of the verses and can be ensured with other verses if any, but still need to be analyzed from the logic point of view.

          I give example of “muhkamat verse” (3353)

          The words of "min wara'i hijabin" (3353), all translators translate this verse to something totally doesn't make any sense, as they see it only from the root of the words, without using their logic.

          However, the words of "min wara'i hijabin, means "beyond of personal matter", because asking of any personal matter to prophet's wives can harm the prophet, and that is the point of the verse.

          So, this proves that Al Quran is not only about Arabic Literature, but need good logic to study Al Quran.

          The typical of “mutasyabihat verses” is that, those verses that difficult to understand, and not enough by studying the root of the words, but need to be seen from different angle, and need to find the explanation thru other verses, and need "deep contemplation", like in the case of The Covenant, “al hajj”, and AMAH.

          Only God knows the mutasyabihat verses and those who possess soulful of knowledge (37), and it means that God had explained “mutasyabihat verses” thru other verses.

          So, we need to find it, by seeking other verses that talked about the same topic and same background of story.

          I have proven all the words of "al hajj" in Al Quran, and I have clear picture that those are about the fulfillment of The Covenant, either by God, by the messenger, or by the believers, and they all matched with the whole story of The Covenant in Al Quran, even link with the purpose of the creation of Adam, and I have many supporting verses to support my understanding, which I have wrote in the article.

          That is why I said, your methodology verily disregards "mutasyabihat verse" that have been remind, and make you totally too far from the purpose of the whole story of The Covenant, “al hajj”, and AMAH, while they all are one package of the story.

          The way you do had been done by those people in past, they disregard “mutasyabihat verse”, and made them too focused on the root of the word of "al hajj" and AMAH, and finally they get deadlocked, and made them no choice except to follow the pagan rituals in Mecca.

          Your perception of "al hajj" as symposium, feast, homage, commemoration is totally no proofs in Al Quran anything to support them, totally out of topic of Al Quran, and moreover about your perception of AMAH (too difficult to understand except for yourself), because your methodology not to include the good logic and the contemplation.

          Thanks and Regads,

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            peace,

            So in summary the methodology you apply to each type of verse is

            “muhkamat verses”
            study the root of the words
            check other verses
            logic

            “mutasyabihat verses”
            studying the root of the words,
            need to be seen from different angle
            check other verses
            "deep contemplation"

            You never mentioned logic for "mutasyabihat" and mentioned "need to be seen from different angle". Well, a different angle from "logic" is "illogic" which could explain your interpretations.

            I found your example of a “muhkamat verse” (3353) to lack credibility. You presented no root evidence, nor cross-reference evidence and I'm not even sure your rearrangement of the phrase is acceptable by way of Quranic grammar.

            And lastly nothing you mentioned invalidated anything I wrote here http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html

            Unfortunately your reply lacks any specifics. You claim my views on these terms are "totally out of topic of Quran" yet present zero proofs, e.g. your view contradicts Quran verse XYZ, it is illogical because XYZ, it is impractical because of XYZ.

            I recommend forum readers compare your analysis and these articles and decide for themselves
            https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-hajj-Quran.html
            https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              Peace all,

              No one can “touch” Al Quran, except those who intend to purify themselves (5679).

              Al Quran is not a manmade book that can be translated using a certain methodology. Only God has His own “methodology” to let whomever He wills among His servant to understand Al Quran (2269).

              Those who affiliate with any group of religion will not be able to understand Al Quran.

              Those who affiliate with any group of religion cannot “touch” Al Quran forever, as they are polytheists (3131-32).

              Being Islam in the Side of God is His Choice for whomever He wills among His Servants (6125, 3922), that is why the true religion is only in the side of God since the time of Noah (4213) and not in a group, just like Ibrahim that followed by Muhammad (16123).

              Whoever is guided, it’s for himself, whoever go astray, he only loss over his error (3941, 1715, 6104, 10108, 6125).

              The existence of groups of religion is a form of God’s punishment to the people (665), but most of the people do not realize it.

              The three groups of religion as we see today (Jewish, Christian, and Islam), are the spiritual descendants of the three groups that faced by Muhammad at his time, which is Jewish, Christian, and Idol worshiper of three deities (parvati, sarashwati, and laksmi - 5319-20), as every single thing in this worldly life had been written in the side of God (2775).

              Arabic today is the language that called “a’jamiyyun” in Al Quran (16103)

              Arabic today was designed by the Persian, Abu Bishr Amr ibn Uthman (Sibawayh) in the 7th century, and most probably, number of Arabic letters today had been updated from 22 letters to 28 letters, to match with the number of Arabic letters in Al Quran.

              God had reminded us about the Arabs in the past (997), so don't be fooled by those who argument by using Arabic literature in discussing about Al Quran, because Arabic Al Quran is not Arabic that used nowadays.

              Yusuf Ali, Pickthall, Shakir, Sarwar, M. Khan, Maulana M. Ali and others are those who have good Arabic literature, but the translations of Al Quran that they have made completely out of context, and one thing that we should know that they are among the polytheists, so using their translations as a reference is a big mistake.

              They totally do not know the relationship between the creation of Adam and Al Quran, and made them totally lost the concept of The Covenant, Al Masjid Al Haram , and Al Hajj in Al Quran.

              They do not know the true story about Adam and his wife that made them live in this worldly life, and even they do not know how Prophet Muhammad died as per Al Quran.

              I don't speak Arabic at all, but my Lord grant me knowledge of Al Quran that made me free from any group of religion, and made me become a follower of “millata ibrahim” (2130, 395).

              It's time to wake up from a long sleep.....

              Peace,

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                Arabic today was designed by the Persian, Abu Bishr Amr ibn Uthman (Sibawayh) in the 7th century, and most probably, number of Arabic letters today had been updated from 22 letters to 28 letters, to match with the number of Arabic letters in Al Quran.

                peace, two verses contain all 28 letters

                3154 ثم furthermore انزل descends علىكم upon you من from بعد after الغم the distress
                see manuscript qāf 47 dated 606-652 CE (95.4%)
                https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/verse-navigator/sura/3/verse/154/manuscripts/73/page/9v

                4829 محمد Muhammad رسول messenger الله the God
                https//corpuscoranicum.de/en/verse-navigator/sura/48/verse/29/manuscripts/32/page/41r

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                  Peace to all contributors,

                  'al masjid al haram' was one of the earliest compound noun studies I did of Quranic terms as understood in Arabic. It is a very important topic and my own view even when considered just based on physical terms, is that it does not represent an earthly location or place. This much I intuitively know, since all places and all directions belong to The God, He and only He, encompasses all of existence as our human minds can know, and everything more than that.

                  I have not yet had another attempt at interpreting it as my current understanding still stands above all other reasons that I have come across or noted since. The understanding itself is from at least 12 years ago and perhaps even longer than that.

                  It was and still is my view that this term means ’the acknowledgement of boundaries’ that have been set by The God as the criteria in The Quran.

                  It is a boundary because the same root for h-r-m is translated as both ‘sacred’ and ‘forbidden’ so the opposite words are conveying that the meaning in between these concepts; the boundary which defines what is sacred and what is forbidden*.

                  A submitting servant of The God acknowledges that there are boundaries that have been set by The God as detailed in The Quran; that must be followed by believers. This is to determine their adherence to being on the righteous side of the balance when it comes to these boundaries.

                  A believer who reaches or enters 'amah' does so in their mental, and spiritual dimensions through adherence to the side of righteous justice always. The Quran provides the Criteria for determining this justice when instituted through validation using principles of not going to extremes other than in the pursuit of balance and righteousness as defined in The Quran. To steer the central course by avoiding the extremes of all kinds.

                  For believers the two important things that they can do for each other is to urge constantly for continuance in doing good works and righteous deeds. Always keeping the balance, repaying what is borrowed, safekeeping others entrusted things( including of orphans) for them and so on. And to urge each other towards patience, since the mind that has attained the certainty is in a state of loss for what they likely witness with their eyes, of the human condition, 'lefi husr'. That they must be patient until The God commands for all of them, on The Day when all things and accounts will be settled. Attaining this level of patience and urging others towards it, 'bi sabr', is another of the keys for believers.

                  All who enter that state of absolute certainty, The God willing, experience this as a reality in their lives. That they do righteous deeds, and that they are conscious of The God in all matters of their actions. How many millions or billions of people can be fitted into any one constructed building or city on earth at the one time is the real question here. Can a valley or any physically constructed place accomodate such a structure to allow billions to enter at once and stay there?

                  To the person of knowledge the matter should be settled. If one could attain that highest level of security by entering 'amah', then why would anyone ever leave it?

                  The truth is that billions can and will enter this state of mind when they acknowledge that The God is their Creator and they respect the boundaries that The God has set. This state of mind can be attained by gaining certainty through increasing one's knowledge that all of it is decreed and prophesied; through a Divine revelation containing encoded information in its structure that links it authoritatively as the final index for millennia of revelation of the people of ‘the book’. It proves itself as authoritative in numerical miracles, unveiled in significant ways and at significant times by prophet messengers.

                  The 'millet ibrahim' or ‘station of Abraham’, is not simply a worldly state, but is defined in the nature of the soul that recognises that it has the most direct connection to The God, without intercessors. The path of following The God alone is the path of Abraham. He was never of the associators. No exceptions or allowances for any associates. Let the souls of those who wish to enter this state pray that way to The God that it may be so.

                  The God says that to resurrect the ‘recorded being’ that you sense yourself to be, is easy for Him. He proves it by mathematical proofs which are brought to humanity from a person like amongst themselves.

                  The descriptions of paradise are ones that any believer understands stand merely as conceptual 'shadows' in place of a far superior reality in the reward itself. The destiny of resurrected souls is programmed in such a way that only those who have come to certainty of The God’s Sovereignty achieve the most admirable goal of being of the nearest. This is something I believe can be achieved by The Nineteen Sign that is present within the gematria, semantics and the metrics of all previously revealed Scripture, showing pre-ordained numerical relationships linking the revelation of the mysteries to the destiny of the chosen servant. The God grants the mind that is pure in being a non-associator, the knowledge which unveils these things.

                  The recognition of these signs by other minds and souls is mentioned in 8319 to be of the kind that recognises the ‘kitabun marqum’ ‘the numerically structured book’. The key to the path to ‘eleyyin’, the destiny of those said to be of the highest levels of nearness to The God, in so far as submission and appreciation of His Utmost Level of Might and Mercy, goes.

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                    peace truth,
                    Have you ran your understanding through the summarised checklist here. I'm not sure how it would work with a number of them.

                    Summary and Discussion

                    Taking the above review of occurrences into account, a summarised reference list of the information extracted about 'al masjid al haram' will be shown below

                    Glory be to the One who took with/by His servant (at) night from al maSJD al haram to al maSJD al aqsa which We have blessed around it that We may show him of Our signs.

                    We will surely turn thee (onto/to) a focal-point that will please thee so turn thy face/purpose/consideration in the direction (of) al maSJD al haram and wherever that you are so turn your faces/purposes/considerations in its direction and indeed those who have been given the writ/decree know that it is the truth from their Lord.

                    Those to whom We have given the decree/writ recognise it like they recognise their sons; and indeed a group of them surely hides the truth while they know

                    from wherever thou start/come forth so turn thy face/purpose/consideration in the direction (of) al masjid al haram and wherever that you are so turn your faces/purposes/considerations in its direction so that not will be for the people against you debate, except those who wronged among them. So do not fear them, but fear Me and that I may complete My favour upon you and so that you may be guided.

                    And do not fight them AAinda/(in the presence of) al masjid al haram until they fight you in it

                    That is for one whose people are not at-hand/present (at) al masjid al haram

                    hindering from the way/path of God and to reject in it and (reject in) al masjid al haram, and expelling its people from it is a greater wrong AAinda/(in the presence of) God

                    And why should God not punish them while they hinder from al maSJD al haram, and they were not its guardians/protectors! Its guardians/protectors are the conscientious

                    those who have rejected/concealed and hinder from the path of God and al masjid al haram which We made for mankind, equal are the devotee/attached/resident in it and the bedouin/visitor/traveller, and whoever intends/wishes in it deviation (or) wrongdoing, We will make him taste from painful retribution.

                    They are those who concealed/rejected and hindered you from/concerning al maSJD al haram, and prevented the offering/gift from reaching its permitted/lawful place.

                    Certainly, God has confirmed His messenger's vision with truth/reality, surely you (plural) will enter al masjid al haram, if God wills, securing/trusting, unburdening/relieving your chiefs/representatives, and restraining/relinquishing not fearing.

                    And let not the hatred of a people because they hindered you from/concerning al masjid al haram; that you transgress.

                    those whom you made a pledge AAinda/(in the presence of) al masjid al haram.

                    Have you made the watering of those undertaking HaJJ and development/cultivation (of) al maSJD al haram like the one who believed in God and the Last Day and strived in the cause of God?

                    the polytheists are impure so let them not approach/near al maSJD al haram after this year of theirs; and if you fear poverty, then soon God will enrich you from His bounty

                    Unfortunately since I posted the article the quality of discussion has been quite poor so hasn't really led to any significant breakthroughs.

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      peace Wakes,

                      It is unfortunate that no breakthroughs have occurred. My understanding could be dated but I think if one can eliminate the natural bias towards physical place then the verses are plausible with the interpretation I have given.

                      Believers who have entered this state of acknowledgement of the boundaries defined in The Quran for believers; use it as a criteria for their actions.

                      Let us take two of the verses as examples…

                      And do not fight them AAinda/(in the presence of) al masjid al haram until they fight you in it

                      So if you are vowed to the state of acknowledgement of the boundaries, then you are forbidden from being the aggressor without cause; so the only reason to break this covenant of peacefulness is when the acknowledgement boundary counditions are broken by the other party. So fight them in the presence of your acknowledgement of the boundaries only if those boundary conditions are broken by the other side.

                      And let not the hatred of a people because they hindered you from/concerning al masjid al haram; that you transgress.

                      Note that I am not trying to retranslate these interpretations or reword them. I am assuming your presentation of them this way explains some aspect that fits your understanding or a difficulty with it? Nevertheless this one also shows that the behaviour or actions is a part of taking on the covenant and acknowledgement of the boundaries. This includes not hating something or some person or some community etc and letting that hatred become the thing that prevents you from achieving the state of acknowledgement; where one does not hate, but one handles according to plain instructions for interactions between believers, and between those who don't (yet) believe. By hating they are transgressing a boundary of the acknowledgement of the covenant of The Quran. Sustained peace has no room for hate. Believers must acknowledge the boundaries together and enter this house of peace and peacefulness.

                      Some may consider these very metaphorical and that is fine. I'm sure the atomistic detail would make for interesting study but my efforts are on other things at present. I just wanted to present some of the ideas that have brought me to my present understanding.

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                        peace,

                        Note that I am not trying to retranslate these interpretations or reword them. I am assuming your presentation of them this way explains some aspect that fits your understanding or a difficulty with it?

                        I translated them as accurately as I could, irrespective of a particular understanding of AMAH. They are done like that to allow readers to slot in whatever understanding they have of AMAH to see if it works or not.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          Peace all,

                          Many implications which related to AMAH and HAJJ that need to be understand, but the most important thing is the understanding of the relations between the creation of Adam and his descendants and The Al Quran.

                          We also need to understand what actually the meaning of “al ‘arab” and the “arabic” as per Al Quran.

                          There is no people or nation called The Arabs in Al Quran

                          The word of “al ‘arab” in Al Quran is not a name of people or tribe or nation, and to understand the true meaning of it, we should know how the word of “al ‘arab” was formed from the story of the people of Muhammad.

                          Muhammad and his people came from the gentile people called “al ummiyina”, means people who do not know about the Scriptures (622).

                          After God had appointed a messenger, “al ummiyina” who followed the messenger, they were called as “al ‘arab”, and no longer were called as “al ummiyina”.

                          Among “al ummiyina” who did not follow the messenger and stay with their tradition, they were called idol worshipers or “al musyrikin”, and not as “al ‘arab”.

                          Among “al ‘arab”, some of them verily believe in God and The Last Day, and they supported the messenger (999), and they were called as the believers, along with the believers from among the people of the scriptures (2947).

                          However, among “al ‘arab” around the believers are the hypocrites, as well as the inhabitant of “al madinati” (a code of original land of “al ummiyina”) who stand for those who very strong in the hypocrisy (al nifaqi), that the prophet didn’t know (9101).

                          So, mostly “the hypocrites” that was talked in Al Quran is “al ‘arab” who have believed then disbelieved, and they came from “al ummiyina” (631-8, 4914-17, 997).

                          Before Muhammad was appointed as a messenger, he was part of “al ummiyina” (7158, 622, 294, but he never be called as “al ‘arab”, because “al ‘arab” is not a name of people or nation.

                          The same thing like the messengers from among “bani israel” (570), they never be called as “bani Israel”, because “bani israel” is not a name of people or tribe.

                          From the above explanation, we can see how the word of “al ‘arab” was formed, that it has nothing to do with a tribe or people, or nation, but just a code or pronoun in Al Quran to identify those who are very strong in rejection and hypocrisy (997, 4145), who originally came from the idol worshipers.

                          We noted that the word of “gentile” and “arab” was also mentioned in The Bible, with the same purpose that mentioned in Al Quran, but people did not know that the word of “gentile” and “arab” in the scriptures is not a name of tribe or people or nation, but purely just as pronoun in the scriptures.

                          God sent down Al Quran to the world and preserve it, to make clear everything.

                          Today, many countries claimed as nation of Arab, but who actually the Arab among them, no one knows for sure, because of very complicated, but from the perspective of Al Quran, we know now that originally there is no race, people, or nation called the Arabs.

                          They schemed with their scheming that enough to eliminate the mountains (1446).

                          The True Arabic is a writing language for reading purposes only

                          Al Quran was sent down in writing on papers (67, 964), in Arabic language complete with the punctuation (16103), written by the Angles (681, 8015), because the era has been ready.

                          Therefore, anyone can memorize Al Quran, but no one will be able to rewrite it complete with the punctuation.

                          The true Arabic is a scripture language with the punctuation that God made just for the reading purposes, in order for the people easier to study The Words of God, regardless of one’s language (4144), that is why The Book was called Al Quran, which means The Perfect Reading, that impossible for mankind and jinn make anything like that (178.

                          Al Quran become very difficult to understand, because those people in the past who named themselves as the Arabs, created a new group of religion that called Islam “on behalf of” of Prophet Muhammad in Mecca, complete with the teachings, rituals, and the false history.

                          They proclaimed that Muhammad is an Arab, who born in Mecca, and speaks Arabic, so they updated their language to Arabic, while Al Quran clearly mentioned that Muhammad speaks “ajam” (language that has varieties) (2619. They totally have no idea that Arabic is a writing language that God made just for reading purposes.

                          God made them far away from Al Quran, so they covered Islam with hadist and sunnah, and forbid people to translate Al Quran into foreign language for centuries, so that they can control Al Quran to make people in the world have no choice except to follow their religion.

                          People today reluctant to study Al Quran, because most of the Arabs and those who speak Arabic today tell Non-Arabs that studying Al Quran can only be done by those who possess knowledge of Arabic literature, know well of hadist and sunnah, and familiar with the history of Islam.

                          In fact, they are totally lying, as God have sent down Al Quran as a perfect reading (111, 6114), no need other sources (482), and God have guaranteed that nothing’s left out from Al Quran (63, means that Al Quran was explained by Al Quran itself (552), because the true Arabic that designed by God is a writing language complete with the punctuation (964), that just for reading purposes.

                          Let see one example on how the word of “masajidillah” was translated to God’s Mosques because the Arabs in the past created new religion that have place of worship called mosques, and made people in the world have no choice except to accept their understanding.

                          917 - It is not for the polytheists to uphold God’s Revelations (masajidillah), they bear witness over themselves with disbelief. Those, their deeds have become worthless, and in the fire they will abide.

                          918 - Indeed those who carry out God’s Revelations (masajidillah) are only those who believe in God and The Last Day, and maintain the relationship with God and purify the relationship, and do not fear except God, then surely they will be among the guided ones.

                          The above verses are the same subject that was talked in 18102-105, 7146-147, 967-69, 321-22, 4162 which is about The God's Revelations..

                          2114 - And who are more wicked than those who prevent The God’s Books (masajidillah) that His name was mentioned in them, and strive for their distortion? It is not for them to accept them except those who afraid. For them in this world is humiliation and for them in Hereafter, a painful retribution.

                          This verse is the same subject that was talked in 621, 6157, 737, 1857, 278-79, 2140, 2174, which is about The God's Revelations or The God's Books.

                          From the above verses, we can see that the word of “masajidillah” means The God’s Revelations or The God’s Books, and has nothing to do with temples or sanctuaries or mosques, because the true Arabic (Arabic Al Quran) is a writing language that just for reading purposes.

                          By the same perception, we can easily understand the whole words of “masjid” in any form in Al Quran, which totally has nothing to do with the mosque today, except for the word of "masajidu" (2240), which means “other places of worship”, because the verse talked about monasteries, churches, synagogues that God would like to destroy.

                          Let see AMAH and HAJJ

                          All the words of Al Masjidi/a in Al Quran, means The Land.

                          All the words of Al Harami/u in Al Quran, means Agreement, The Treaty, The Covenant.

                          “al syahru al haramu”, means violation of the items of the agreement (2194).

                          The word of “Hajj” as a fulfillment of agreement under The Name of God, was explained in 2827-28, where Musa and his father in law made an agreement for eight years (tsamaniya hijajin) that Musa had to work for him as a dowry for his wife (2826).

                          However, to get clear picture of AMAH and Al Hajj, we need to know the relations between the creation of Adam and Al Quran, otherwise, we will never get the correct understanding.

                          Only from the descendants of Adam (not all human being), God made them testify for themselves about The One God (7172-173), because from his descendants, God appointed messengers (as role model – khalifatan 230) that sent to among themselves (the descendants of Adam), as a lesson for the world.

                          The descendants of Adam were placed to The Blessed Land since the time of Noah and the people of Ark (2329, 114, and after years become many lands, and one of the lands was identified as Al Masjidi Al Harami, as described in the above article.

                          It had been decreed that most of the descendants of Adam will be in Hell (3660-64), as well as most of the people (7179, 3213, 221.

                          Muhammad and the believers with him have fulfilled The Covenant with God, which called “AL HAJJ”, and made us inherit Al Quran today.

                          Muhammad is not only the last human messenger and the last prophet, but he is also the last descendant of Adam (3340), and he is now in The Paradise (3626-27). Glory be to God.

                          I have read some understanding about AMAH and AL-HAJJ, but their understanding totally out of context from the perspective of Al Quran, because they do not know the relations between the creation of Adam and Al Quran, and they do not know the relationship, because most of them use a manmade Arabic literature in studying Al Quran.

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                            Peace All,

                            Let me add some understanding that related to HAJJ, to make you more interested (hopefully).

                            HAJJA AL BAYTA (TO FULFILL THE COVENANT IN GOD’S HOUSE (THE EARTH))

                            2158 - Indeed, The Purity of Heart (al shaffa) and The Noble Character (al marwata) are The Signs of God's Mercy, then whoever fulfill The Covenant in God’s House (The Earth) (hajja al bayta), or received/inherited The Message (i'tamara), then no blame on him that he get used to in both, and whoever volunteer to carry out the goodness, then God knows those who are grateful.

                            “al shaffa” means “clearness”, “purity”.

                            “al marwata” means “humanity”, “generosity”.

                            “hajja al bayta” means to fulfill The Covenant in God’s House (The Earth).

                            “i’tamara” means “receive an order”.

                            When God said “My House” means “My Earth” as The Earth is belonged to God, and I have explained the meaning of “al ka’bata al bayta al harama” in another topic, means The God’s House (The Earth) in the form of a dome that restricted in time.

                            https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611737.0

                            The word of “hajja al bayta” was addressed to “bani Israel” (who divided into Jewish and Christian at the time of Muhammad) who bound with The Covenant with God that taken by “israel”.

                            The word of “i’tamara” was addressed to those beyond the people of the previous scriptures, and those after their time (including our generation).

                            This verse is The Main Message in Al Quran for the world, that there is nothing wrong with the people, as long as they keep maintain their purity of heart and their noble character, and whoever happily to carry out the goodness, then God knows those who are grateful.

                            The items concerning to “the purity of heart” are detailed in 2159 – 176.

                            The items concerning to “the noble character” are detailed in 2177 – 210.

                            Therefore, “al shaffa” and "al marwata” in this verse has totally nothing to do with the pagan rituals that performed in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

                            GOD MADE THE STORY OF THE HOUSE OF IBRAHIM FOR THE PEOPLE, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO FOLLOW “MILLATA IBRAHIM”, AND IN ORDER FOR THEM LIVING IN GOD’S HOUSE (THE EARTH) IN PEACE.

                            396 - The perfect home that was set (as an example) for the people was that in “bakkata”, blessed and as guidance for the world.

                            397 - In the story of the house, there was clear sign of The Honor of Ibrahim (“millata Ibrahim”) “whoever entered it, would be in safe”.

                            And due to God for the people to follow “millata Ibrahim” to be blessed inhabitant in God’s House (The Earth) (hijju al bayti), as the
                            way for those who obey Him, and for those who disbelieve, then indeed, God no need from the world.

                            Explanation to 396

                            1. God used the code of “bakkata”, means “crying”, as Yaqub cried till his eyes become white (1284-86), in order for us to
                              know that this verse is talking about the house of Ibrahim at the time of Yaqub.

                            2. There is a lesson from the story of Yaqub’s family in the house, for those who possess intelligence (12111).

                            3. Therefore, Al Quran proves that “bakka” is not the city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, as claimed by the polytheists.

                            Explanation to 397

                            1. This verse was supported by 2125 that The House (The Earth) would be the safe place to live for the people if they follow “millata
                              Ibrahim”, as the way to establish the relationship with God (mushallan).

                            Therefore, to follow “millata Ibrahim” is the only way to be the blessed inhabitant in God’s House (The Earth) (2130, 395), and
                            whoever follow “millata ibrahim”, they were called “ahla al bayti” (1173, 3333).

                            1. The word of “fihi” refers to the story of the house and not “the house”, as people would never find the clear proof of
                              “millata Ibrahim” from “the house”.

                            2. Ibrahim’s family and Luth’s family were saved by God to the valley with many plants and fruits (2171, 1437), which indicated that they
                              lived in the wild.

                            3. The story of Yaqub’s family in the house, gave clear proof (12111), that they got happy ending (12100-101).

                            4. The story of the people of the cave in the house, gave clear proof (189), that they got happy ending (1825).

                            The house of Ibrahim is a cave, so when the people of the cave came to the house after the time of Yaqub’s family, God made them
                            slept for three hundred years, and they are nine in numbers (1825).

                            1 dog and 8 young men, precisely the same number of the Surah 18.

                            1. God made the story of the house of Ibrahim for the people, in order for them to follow “millata Ibrahim”, and in order for them
                              living in God’s house in peace.

                            THERE WAS AN IMPORTANT WATERLINE IN AMAH

                            919 - Did you make an important waterline (siqayata al haajji) and maintaining the land that the inhabitant bound with The Covenant (AMAH), the same as one who believe in God and The Last Day and strive in the way of God? They are not the same in the side of God, and God does not guide the wicked people.

                            Explanation to 919

                            1. The word of “al haajji” in this verse came from the root of “H a j” and not “H j” or “H j j”, means “anything
                              necessary”, “requisite”, “need”, “want”, “object” (Arabic – English dictionary, F. Steingass, Page 257).

                            2. The word of “siqayata” in this verse means “watering place”, “watering”.

                            3. This gave indication that AMAH have a waterline in it, and if we see in detail about the blessed land from time to time, God made the
                              water place as a marker for the land

                            “tsamud” means remainder of water or spring which disappear in summer.

                            “al aykati” means a place where water collects and sink into the ground.

                            “midyan” Musa helped two girls to water for them in the place of water of “midyan” (2823-24).

                            The people of Muhammad were warned on how God driven the water to their barren land (3227).

                            1. This verse is in line with 477-81, 938-42, 3167-168 where the wicked among the believers refused to fight in the way of God, and
                              thought that maintaining AMAH the same as one who believe in God and The Last Day.

                            Those who control the translation of Al Quran in the world until today, verily deceived people in the world hereditarily for centuries.

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                              Peace All,

                              Let me add some understanding that related to HAJJ, to make you more interested (hopefully).

                              HAJJA AL BAYTA (TO FULFILL THE COVENANT IN GOD’S HOUSE (THE EARTH))

                              2158 - Indeed, The Purity of Heart (al shaffa) and The Noble Character (al marwata) are The Signs of God's Mercy, then whoever fulfill The Covenant in God’s House (The Earth) (hajja al bayta), or received/inherited The Message (i'tamara), then no blame on him that he get used to in both, and whoever volunteer to carry out the goodness, then God knows those who are grateful.

                              “al shaffa” means “clearness”, “purity”.

                              “al marwata” means “humanity”, “generosity”.

                              “hajja al bayta” means to fulfill The Covenant in God’s House (The Earth).

                              “i’tamara” means “receive an order”.

                              When God said “My House” means “My Earth” as The Earth is belonged to God, and I have explained the meaning of “al ka’bata al bayta al harama” in another topic, means The God’s House (The Earth) in the form of a dome that restricted in time.

                              https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611737.0

                              The word of “hajja al bayta” was addressed to “bani Israel” (who divided into Jewish and Christian at the time of Muhammad) who bound with The Covenant with God that taken by “israel”.

                              The word of “i’tamara” was addressed to those beyond the people of the previous scriptures, and those after their time (including our generation).

                              This verse is The Main Message in Al Quran for the world, that there is nothing wrong with the people, as long as they keep maintain their purity of heart and their noble character, and whoever happily to carry out the goodness, then God knows those who are grateful.

                              The items concerning to “the purity of heart” are detailed in 2159 – 176.

                              The items concerning to “the noble character” are detailed in 2177 – 210.

                              Therefore, “al shaffa” and "al marwata” in this verse has totally nothing to do with the pagan rituals that performed in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

                              GOD MADE THE STORY OF THE HOUSE OF IBRAHIM FOR THE PEOPLE, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO FOLLOW “MILLATA IBRAHIM”, AND IN ORDER FOR THEM LIVING IN GOD’S HOUSE (THE EARTH) IN PEACE.

                              396 - The perfect home that was set (as an example) for the people was that in “bakkata”, blessed and as guidance for the world.

                              397 - In the story of the house, there was clear sign of The Honor of Ibrahim (“millata Ibrahim”) “whoever entered it, would be in safe”.

                              And due to God for the people to follow “millata Ibrahim” to be blessed inhabitant in God’s House (The Earth) (hijju al bayti), as the
                              way for those who obey Him, and for those who disbelieve, then indeed, God no need from the world.

                              Explanation to 396

                              1. God used the code of “bakkata”, means “crying”, as Yaqub cried till his eyes become white (1284-86), in order for us to
                                know that this verse is talking about the house of Ibrahim at the time of Yaqub.

                              2. There is a lesson from the story of Yaqub’s family in the house, for those who possess intelligence (12111).

                              3. Therefore, Al Quran proves that “bakka” is not the city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, as claimed by the polytheists.

                              Explanation to 397

                              1. This verse was supported by 2125 that The House (The Earth) would be the safe place to live for the people if they follow “millata
                                Ibrahim”, as the way to establish the relationship with God (mushallan).

                              Therefore, to follow “millata Ibrahim” is the only way to be the blessed inhabitant in God’s House (The Earth) (2130, 395), and
                              whoever follow “millata ibrahim”, they were called “ahla al bayti” (1173, 3333).

                              1. The word of “fihi” refers to the story of the house and not “the house”, as people would never find the clear proof of
                                “millata Ibrahim” from “the house”.

                              2. Ibrahim’s family and Luth’s family were saved by God to the valley with many plants and fruits (2171, 1437), which indicated that they
                                lived in the wild.

                              3. The story of Yaqub’s family in the house, gave clear proof (12111), that they got happy ending (12100-101).

                              4. The story of the people of the cave in the house, gave clear proof (189), that they got happy ending (1825).

                              The house of Ibrahim is a cave, so when the people of the cave came to the house after the time of Yaqub’s family, God made them
                              slept for three hundred years, and they are nine in numbers (1825).

                              1 dog and 8 young men, precisely the same number of the Surah 18.

                              1. God made the story of the house of Ibrahim for the people, in order for them to follow “millata Ibrahim”, and in order for them
                                living in God’s house in peace.

                              THERE WAS AN IMPORTANT WATERLINE IN AMAH

                              919 - Did you make an important waterline (siqayata al haajji) and maintaining the land that the inhabitant bound with The Covenant (AMAH), the same as one who believe in God and The Last Day and strive in the way of God? They are not the same in the side of God, and God does not guide the wicked people.

                              Explanation to 919

                              1. The word of “al haajji” in this verse came from the root of “H a j” and not “H j” or “H j j”, means “anything
                                necessary”, “requisite”, “need”, “want”, “object” (Arabic – English dictionary, F. Steingass, Page 257).

                              2. The word of “siqayata” in this verse means “watering place”, “watering”.

                              3. This gave indication that AMAH have a waterline in it, and if we see in detail about the blessed land from time to time, God made the
                                water place as a marker for the land

                              “tsamud” means remainder of water or spring which disappear in summer.

                              “al aykati” means a place where water collects and sink into the ground.

                              “midyan” Musa helped two girls to water for them in the place of water of “midyan” (2823-24).

                              The people of Muhammad were warned on how God driven the water to their barren land (3227).

                              1. This verse is in line with 477-81, 938-42, 3167-168 where the wicked among the believers refused to fight in the way of God, and
                                thought that maintaining AMAH the same as one who believe in God and The Last Day.

                              Those who control the translation of Al Quran in the world until today, verily deceived people in the world hereditarily for centuries.

                              Peace everyone..

                              Sometimes I feel is this what exploring QURAN means... Well.. All I have to say is endless nonsense... When I read brother Waqas's article long back on AMAH I was so dissapointed coz he is better than what he has written in it.. Going nowhere..
                              Now you have written something identical which has not given any sense to clear verses..
                              I know you both may have so many constructive criticisms to say againat what I have written ... Buy my simple question to the author of this topic is.... If what you say is AMAH and Haj just explain whatvis the meaning of Haj is in well known months?
                              Haj = ""Fulfil the covenant of God's Earth... "" rotfl

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