For those who thought psychedelics was a good thing.
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Psychedelics-users tend to romantizite it alot. People who kill themselves on a trip, (and newsstories about this are everywhere, and occurs every now and then)
are said to be "predisposed" etc. They were crazy to begin with. But the guy who had a negative experience, actually killed himself on drugs. From what I can see from these news-stories there is nothing "predisposed" here. I am really tired of people always presenting these things as if they are the greatest thing ever. I see people writing about Beach Boys, and that LSD positively affected their music. And where is Brian Wilson now? He has schizo-affective disorder.
I can almost hear you say "predisposed". But you know the friend I talked about earlier, he is psychotic too.
If you read between the lines on a lot of drugreports, the guy who did the most drugs, are most likely the one with the mental issues.
There are several reports about people going completely out of their minds, and ending up in hospital.No.. it`s a drug. Satan is promiscuous, and the hippies were promiscuous, and talk about LSD as "spiritual".
"Been a naughty girl and let her nickers down" - "I am the walrus"- Beatles, LSD fueled text.And that MAPS thing is a joke. Psychedelics for Treatment of PTSD. Lol. Cluster headaches.. They are just using holes in the law. LSD for cluster headaches, how stupid can you get. Chronic fatigue, if something is true, the longtime user of drug, usually is quite tired.
The most known about MAPS is that they use drugs to help fear associated with death. But hey, religion does that, WITHOUT drugs.And that play on emotions in the last of you post, THAT is truly horrific. Now go and sell your LSD to cancer patients. PS My dad died of this.
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This entire thread is stupid, unneccessary, and lacks any real scholarship. It is all theories and conjecture and the starter of this thread has no experience with the things he is talking about so everything he says on the topic should be void.
I don't promote drug use, but as for specifically marijuana it is NOT a drug or evil thing to use, nor is it an intoxicant. Neither is poyote and mushrooms. They all grow from the Earth naturally and saying this nonsense about their use is like saying Allah made a mistake in Their creation.
DMT is a natural occuring chemical in all living things, including us. How then could it possibly be bad or an intoxicant? Are you saying when you dream you are actually becoming intoxicated? Because it is DMT that causes you to dream.
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It`s good to see you here, so that our readers can get a clear idea of that the word gnosis, may be used by COMPLETELY different people. Ofcourse when I am talking about gnosis, it has nothing to do with your nick. You associate it with "demiurge", "gnostics" (as in the religion associated with the demiurge) etc. I am talking about real experience of God. It is you who is stupid, unneccessary, and lacks any real scholarship. Lol anyone who thinks demiurge has got something so with anything real, is ofcourse void in all he says.
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m going to ignore the potheads. And LSD users arent just killing themselves. They are killing others.I think the whole morality of my research is summed up in Terence McKennas ambivalence to his own drug use, when he found out he was to die. He would rather have lived a real life.
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Consider that we all get "real experience of God" 24/7. Every day is a "real experience of God". There is not a single moment when you are not experiencing "The light of the heavens and earth" (2435).
The advantage of substances is that they allow rapid access to slow-wave brain states just as say sugar allows rapid access to body energy release.
All you have to go by are the examples of various personalities. Ironically you deride them as failures in some way or other but let's remember these were all highly successful people in their respective fields. The Beach Boys, the Beatles? World class. Even Terence Mckenna is a well-known & established character. And for every great character there will always be many haters. But do the haters ever remotely come close to the standard of achievement of those they deride? I think not!
My question is very simple. If you do not believe in the last day by your own admission, how can you pronounce takfir on anyone? And why are you so afraid to answer this very simple question!
Peace
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Yes, explain away that. Lol, you are creeps. There is a LOT of creeps in this forum, incessantly babbling away, drowning true signal in noise.
If free-minds had a mind, you would be banned. But instead I guess, I will remove myself from this abusive intoxicant sect.
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It`s good to see you here, so that our readers can get a clear idea of that the word gnosis, may be used by COMPLETELY different people. Ofcourse when I am talking about gnosis, it has nothing to do with your nick. You associate it with "demiurge", "gnostics" (as in the religion associated with the demiurge) etc. I am talking about real experience of God. It is you who is stupid, unneccessary, and lacks any real scholarship. Lol anyone who thinks demiurge has got something so with anything real, is ofcourse void in all he says.
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m going to ignore the potheads. And LSD users arent just killing themselves. They are killing others.I think the whole morality of my research is summed up in Terence McKennas ambivalence to his own drug use, when he found out he was to die. He would rather have lived a real life.
I shouldn't even be entertaining this because your ignorance and arrogance is so thick that you shouldn't even be given any attention for a second, but maybe I can use you to teach a lesson to others here.
First off, I don't really know you and you don't know me, I'm new here yet you seem to pretend to know me and my philosophy well. But based on what I've seen so far from you here is your some dude who likes to pretend he's some wise guy while putting everyone else down. You come up with these strange bizzare theories that hold no weight whatsoever and are based on really nothing. It is complete conjecture, and it seems you like to call this foolishness "gnosis".
Let me school you a little bit on gnosis and gnosticism, since you seem to be confused based on your last post. Gnosticism and gnosis have nothing to do with being a religion. Such a thought is foolish considering gnosticism deals self-knowledge and completely rejects institutionalized religion. It is an outlook on life as a whole, understanding the esoteric mysteries of creation, the divine unity of all, Wahdat al-Wajud.
And as for the demiurge, that has nothing to do with referring to an actual being. The demiurge is a concept, an extremely relevant and true concept during these times today. So again, refering to Gnosticism being some religion centered around a demiurge is errornous, ignorant, and just not scholarly, like the majority of the trash you post here.
Anyone from any walk of life can be a gnostic, since it is an outlook on life. That's why there existed jewish gnostics, christian gnostics, even "pagan" gnostics.
Not only are you extremely ignorant and arrogant (two traits that also make you incredibly blind by default), but you stand proud in your ignorance and you even resort to insults. Is that how a Muslim who is having "real experiences of God" behaves?
May Allah have mercy on you and give you guidance.
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Yes, explain away that. Lol, you are creeps. There is a LOT of creeps in this forum, incessantly babbling away, drowning true signal in noise.
If free-minds had a mind, you would be banned. But instead I guess, I will remove myself from this abusive intoxicant sect.
Shalom Paradox,
I am a bit concerned. Are you calling us intoxicant sects ?? If yes, let it be known that I respect you and your beliefs. You are a deeply spiritual kind of reader of the text. You have all the rights to do so. Do not count me with anyone who wants you out of the forum or is after your theology.
PEACE
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Yes, explain away that. Lol, you are creeps. There is a LOT of creeps in this forum, incessantly babbling away, drowning true signal in noise.
If free-minds had a mind, you would be banned. But instead I guess, I will remove myself from this abusive intoxicant sect.
Sounds pretty rich coming from you.
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I stand with "Adem got high", but I'll add his wife also. I don't think an event took place anywhere out of the place we live, ie. the Earth, and most likely it took place in Ancient Egypt at the start of literacy, circa 4th millennium BC. They are not "first humans", but they're first at the start of history, which starts from literacy.
If we take a look at "Egyptian goddess of wisdom, knowledge and writing" Seshat we can see something weird over the top of her head.
https//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Seshat.svgI think they both got high from hemp or something alike. There's also a male counterpart for Seshat. Sufi's used to use many hemp-like plants to make their "magical instruments" which took them to other dimensions. I agree with Paradox Uncreated about animism and shamanism (sort of) practice at the start of the history. A principal sanctuary for Seshat was in Heliopolis, where Ibrahim had his Temple.