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WHY THE NIGHT SKY IS EXTREME DARK

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    tlihawa
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    Salaam,

    I would like to share some information regarding the heaven,

    4064 God is the One who made the earth a qararan for you, and the heaven as a binaan, and He designed you, and has perfected your design. And He provided you with good provisions. Such is God your Lord. Most Exalted is God, Lord of the worlds.

    For the earth as qararan, I have posted my opinion in here https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609156.msg413444#msg413444

    and for the sky as 'binaan', I choose this translation,

    Ba-Nun-Ya = Bending over a bowstring while shooting

    As we can see at the horizon, where the flat earth meet the bending sky just like a bowstring while shooting.

    What I've got from scriptures, the sky is not an empty space without boundaries. It looks like a molten looking glass,

    Job 37
    18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

    506 Have they not looked at the heaven above them - how We structured it and adorned it and it has no rifts?

    We cannot apply the word "rifts" to an empty space. It must be a solid structure. Just like what has been explained at the very beginning,

    Genesis 16

    said, Let there be an raqia in the midst

    Raqa = the vault of heaven, or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as solid, and supporting 'waters' above it.

    So there's a solid structure and looks like a molten glass above us. God has explained us using a parable to illustrate the entire system of the universe,

    2435 Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly star lit from a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents examples for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.

    So God light is upon the light. The sun is the lamp inside the glass, which has bright stars which fueled by oil. You can google how the stars really looks like from a zoomed in camera, not the cartoon ones invented by some people.

    Please see this video https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9nnRvJcz98

    So both Al Quran and Torah has describe the sky as a glass, a solid structure which has no rifts. And God's light is upon the world light.

    So what's happen if we try to go up to penetrate the sky?

    5533 O assembly of Jinn and mankind, if you can penetrate the boundaries of the heavens and the earth, then go ahead and penetrate. You will not penetrate without might.

    5535 He sends against both of you projectiles of fire, and of copper; so you will not succeed.

    The sky is well guarded. People and Jinn will not succeed to penetrate the sky, there's projectile of fire, flame heat waiting for them. And surely it's not falling stars or shooting stars just like some people believed.

    The Jinn is more powerful than us, and surely more powerful than NASA . In 2739, you can see how powerful the Jinn was, in the time of Sulaiman, even our technology nowadays is really far behind.

    But even the Jinn, they admitted,

    728 "And we touched the heavens, but found it full of powerful guards and projectiles."
    729 "And we used to sit in it in places of listening, but anyone who sits now finds a projectile seeking him.

    So I do believe we are all under confined system. You can name this projectile of fire whatever you want, Van Allen belt, shooting stars, or something else, but the God confined system will not change.

    So the God light is upon our confined system.

    Let's see how someone told in the Qur'an is able to penetrate the sky and see what lies behind it, off course with the God's permission.

    532 Your friend was not astray, nor was he deceived.

    533 Nor does he speak from personal desire.

    534 It is a divine inspiration.

    535 He has been taught by the One mighty in power.

    1. dzu mirratin, = Miim-Ra-Ra = To pass or pass by or pass beyond, proceed, go along or go through or go over.

    537 While he was at the highest horizon.

    538 Then he drew nearer by moving down.

    539 Until he became as near as two bow-lengths or nearer.

    53 10 He then inspired to His servant what He inspired.

    5311 The mind did not invent what it saw

    From the verses above we can see that, there's something which powerful enough to penetrate the horizon.

    Let see what happened next,

    5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?

    5313 And indeed, he saw him in another descent.

    5314 At the sidratil muntaha

    Sidratil = be dazzled/confounded/perplexed, be dazzled by a thing at which one looked. by a reason of intense heat

    Something so dazzling that eyes can not see. This glare is due to intense heat energy

    Muntaha = to prevent, forbid, chide away, prohibit, make one to stop from, restrain, interdict, hinder, desist, refrain.

    Something that prevent someone, make one stop from.

    But with a little help from mighty God,

    5315 Near it is the eternal Paradise.

    5316 When there covered the sidrata that which covered

    So the dazzling intense heat was covered to let our friend can see again.

    5317 The eyes did not waver, nor go blind.

    5318 He has seen from the great signs of his Lord.

    It's not an easy story to tell, but God has affirmed, "Your friend was not astray, nor was he deceived."

    Alhamdulillah.

    Peace

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      jkhan
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      Sahih International If We willed, We could send down to them from the sky a sign for which their necks would remain humbled.

      signs from God is nothing for them, but signs from NASA satan influenced conspiracy is a sign and they be humbled with it truly..

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        Jafar
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        Flat Earth people can't explain where the sun goes at night

        The year is 1969, The Politburo and a smattering of Soviet aerospace scientists are gathered in a large room in Moscow; everyone is very agitated, including Brezhnev.

        Then Brezhnev speaks
        ?Comrades! The Americans claimed they have landed on the moon! It is a fake claim but nonetheless; we will beat them! we will go TO THE SUN!?

        After a stunned silence, one of the braver scientists raises his hand
        ?But Comrade Brezhnev, that would be very? hot. Our craft will melt!?

        Brezhnev turns on the scientist and replied with angst
        ?Comrade, we are communists da? Unlike those idiotic capitalists we are smart da?
        I have already thought a solution for it we will fly to the sun AT NIGHT!?

        Even Brezhnev know where the sun goes at night... and correctly know that the moon landing was a MYTH.

        What's keeping satellites in the sky?

        The Quran never mentioned any "satellites" thus it MUST be a MYTH.

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          jkhan
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          @manny E, I don't think you even understood your own faith of Globe earth.. Explain to all how the day sky is lit up? We know those simple theories what you explained above.. Sun runs in it's orbit as determined by God is floating as do Moon.. Sun has its limit to illuminate the earth down and the sky up.. With that limit it will lit and keep moving.. Wherever it's light not fallen, it's night even to sky. People have their vision restricted as all know even when you are on earth or sky we can see limited distance.. It's all inside a well planned dome of sky..

          So insane, Night sky is dark just coz of one side of earth is hidden to sunlight and the meantime day sky is lit just one side of the earth is exposed.. They even forgot the earth is tiny. Same Sun same atmosphere same rays went up to sky and lit it up during day, but same Sun, same atmosphere same rays cannot pierce and lit the sky at night.. Night and day is never possible in that way.. Only with dome of sky and and flat earth down and in between the sun.. Sun is always lit n it's moving and it has its distance to cover from its 360 degree and a ball giving light to earth and same able the area of earth of the sky and rest is night..
          These are not my aim here just Quran and it's verses and the invented myth of universe..
          NASA lost their hope from first ever failure tonreach moon, n still wanted keep the same faith of people towards them for business and money and made hoax in well mannered conspiracy using very intelligent set of people.. And all other major nations knew it later but they made competitions to show the rest we are not Second to it and they too know how big money inflow is that.. Keeping the truth in their hand.. World as per their technic ..
          Show me the projections of the mountains in your smooth world picture at brims.. Remember clouds are well clear in your picture, and they forgot clouds are going under the peaks of Everest too but peak is not visible.. Hey Crystal ball and projected ball are to things..

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            ibn_a
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            Salaam jkhan,

            How do you understand this verse?

            And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all in an orbit are swimming.2133 (Sahih International)

            and it is He who has created the night and the day and the sun and the moon - all of them floating through space! - 2133 (Asad)

            It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. - 2133 (Y. Ali)

            And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit. - 2133 (Picktall)

            2133

            Wahuwa allathee khalaqa allayla waalnnahara waalshshamsa waalqamara kullun fee falakin yasbahoona


            • (If) night and day refers to earth, then earth is floating/swimming ( making same movement? ) like the sun and the moon.
              kullun (all) is for tree or more.

            If floating/swimming refers only to sun and moon, then i think that the word would be

            • kilahuma is dual.
              See this verse 1723

            Waqada rabbuka alla taAAbudoo illa iyyahu wabialwalidayni ihsanan imma yablughanna AAindaka alkibara ahaduhuma aw kilahuma fala taqul lahuma offin wala tanharhuma waqul lahuma qawlan kareeman

            1723 (Asad) for thy Sustainer has ordained that you shall worship none but Him. And do good unto parents. Should one of them, or both, attain to old age in thy care, never say "Ugh" to them or scold them, but speak unto them with reverent speech.

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              jkhan
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              See this mind blowing verse.. Not a single verse of God support for globe earth.. Coz He knows what He created and not us or NASA
              2545 " Have you not considered your Lord? How He extends the shadow, and if He will He could have made it STATIONARY- then we have made the SUN for its indication.."

              Okay most of you would have got it as it is explained, coz its so simple way and very clear.. This would not b possible with GE faith only with FE faith, I mean only with the way God created and not human infusion.. Human infusion of blasphemy always fails but it takes time.. Satan is supporter that's why..
              It's crystal clear how God moves the sun and on stationary earth according to the angle of sun it's shadows keep changing til it get set.. Coz God said if the shadow to be stationary then it's cause Sun .. It's not earth it's rotating to give the shadow.. Even for a stationary shadow it's Sun and not earth.. You can't get stationary shadow with moving earth

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                jkhan
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                If u don't have time it's fine.. T c

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                  Aladin_Azra
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                  ibn_a gave you the answer 2133 is talking about the orbits of the night, the day, the Sun and the Moon. We're convinced that the Sun creates the day, but that's not the truth, the Sun is (only) the sign (aayet) of the day, as the Moon is the sign of the night. The day has its own light (daylight). Daylight is a word, defined as "the natural light of the day", and sunlight is a word defined as "light from the sun". Sometimes it's the day and the night same time, obviously when we see both the Sun and the Moon in the Sky, since their signs are there. This is because they're entering one into another (fade in/out).

                  There's many wrong opinions (guessings, ar. rujoom) we accept as truth, but we can always think about the Qur'an, for example about 759 where it was said "And joined are the Sun and the Moon" وَجُمِعَ الشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ.

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                    zeljko67
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                    Salaam..

                    Flat earth silliness..

                    Note the mountain's shadow during sunset..

                    https//lh5.ggpht.com/-VT0xvYor1Yw/UlLTbRd5bRI/AAAAAAAAtIQ/f6gUC-pZic8/mount-rainier-shadow-2%25255B2%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800.

                    Also, get yourself a nice telescope and find Jupiter and its moons and note over a period of time how the moons orbit Jupiter.

                    Its hard for me to believe that people actually find the flat earth appealing or even worthy of God's creation especially seeing that our human bodies are a universe within themselves more complicated and amazing than the "global universe" itself.

                    Fact is, if the earth were flat the people who run the world would not create a fantasy that the world is a globe to trick people away from God when it would be so beyond obvious to them that God must exist and must have created this weird flat earth when compared to all the other round and spherical celestial bodies...they would have no means of denial which would mean there really would be no test for humanity.

                    Come on man..

                    Salaam.

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                      Aladin_Azra
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                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDH6a3TJqpA

                      Telescopes nowadays use a software for "seeing".

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                        jkhan
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                        Salaam..

                        Flat earth silliness..

                        Note the mountain's shadow during sunset..

                        https//lh5.ggpht.com/-VT0xvYor1Yw/UlLTbRd5bRI/AAAAAAAAtIQ/f6gUC-pZic8/mount-rainier-shadow-2%25255B2%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800.

                        Also, get yourself a nice telescope and find Jupiter and its moons and note over a period of time how the moons orbit Jupiter.

                        Its hard for me to believe that people actually find the flat earth appealing or even worthy of God's creation especially seeing that our human bodies are a universe within themselves more complicated and amazing than the "global universe" itself.

                        Fact is, if the earth were flat the people who run the world would not create a fantasy that the world is a globe to trick people away from God when it would be so beyond obvious to them that God must exist and must have created this weird flat earth when compared to all the other round and spherical celestial bodies...they would have no means of denial which would mean there really would be no test for humanity.

                        Come on man..

                        Salaam.

                        https//www.quora.com/How-does-a-flat-Earth-believer-explain-how-the-sun-manages-to-light-up-the-bottom-of-clouds-and-cast-a-shadow-of-the-horizon-on-mountains-as-it-sets-if-the-earth-is-flat-and-the-sun-rotates-around-and-above-the

                        read the above debate.... i find flat earthers argued better than any globe head..

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