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    good_logic
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    Qoran gives us the answer clearly about most of the prophets that GOD has chosen and concludes for us that GOD system does not change.
    Let us take some examples from Qoran and see what GOD says
    1- Joseph
    When he reached maturity, we endowed him with wisdom and knowledge. We thus reward the righteous.
    وَلَمّا بَلَغَ أَشُدَّهُ ءاتَينٰهُ حُكمًا وَعِلمًا وَكَذٰلِكَ نَجزِى المُحسِنينَ

    2-Jacob
    When they went (to Joseph), they entered in accordance with their father's instructions. Although this could not change anything decreed by God, Jacob had a private reason for asking them to do this. For he possessed certain knowledge that we taught him, but most people do not know.
    وَلَمّا دَخَلوا مِن حَيثُ أَمَرَهُم أَبوهُم ما كانَ يُغنى عَنهُم مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن شَىءٍ إِلّا حاجَةً فى نَفسِ يَعقوبَ قَضىٰها وَإِنَّهُ لَذو عِلمٍ لِما عَلَّمنٰهُ وَلٰكِنَّ أَكثَرَ النّاسِ لا يَعلَمونَ

    Moses
    When he reached maturity and strength, we endowed him with wisdom and knowledge. We thus reward the righteous.
    وَلَمّا بَلَغَ أَشُدَّهُ وَاستَوىٰ ءاتَينٰهُ حُكمًا وَعِلمًا وَكَذٰلِكَ نَجزِى المُحسِنينَ

    Abraham
    Before that, we granted Abraham his guidance and understanding, for we were fully aware of him.*
    وَلَقَد ءاتَينا إِبرٰهيمَ رُشدَهُ مِن قَبلُ وَكُنّا بِهِ عٰلِمينَ

    GOD was aware and prepared all His prophets for the job. The least prophet Mohammed could do was to read,write and do maths because he was a merchant and buying and selling requires these basics for the business, its contracts and deals.
    Also GOD gives various information in Qoran that those living in his time knew he could write and read,example
    Mohammed
    They also said, "Tales from the past that he wrote down; they were dictated to him day and night."*
    *255 Mohammed's contemporaries knew that he was a literate man who could read and write;
    وَقالوا أَسٰطيرُ الأَوَّلينَ اكتَتَبَها فَهِىَ تُملىٰ عَلَيهِ بُكرَةً وَأَصيلًا
    GOD is aware of who will be chosen as prophet/messenger, then prepares His prophets /messengers for the job. It is a heavy job that requires knowledge and skills.
    GOD bless you all.
    Peace.

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      jkhan
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      Qoran gives us the answer clearly about most of the prophets that GOD has chosen and concludes for us that GOD system does not change.
      Let us take some examples from Qoran and see what GOD says
      1- Joseph
      When he reached maturity, we endowed him with wisdom and knowledge. We thus reward the righteous.
      وَلَمّا بَلَغَ أَشُدَّهُ ءاتَينٰهُ حُكمًا وَعِلمًا وَكَذٰلِكَ نَجزِى المُحسِنينَ

      2-Jacob
      When they went (to Joseph), they entered in accordance with their father's instructions. Although this could not change anything decreed by God, Jacob had a private reason for asking them to do this. For he possessed certain knowledge that we taught him, but most people do not know.
      وَلَمّا دَخَلوا مِن حَيثُ أَمَرَهُم أَبوهُم ما كانَ يُغنى عَنهُم مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن شَىءٍ إِلّا حاجَةً فى نَفسِ يَعقوبَ قَضىٰها وَإِنَّهُ لَذو عِلمٍ لِما عَلَّمنٰهُ وَلٰكِنَّ أَكثَرَ النّاسِ لا يَعلَمونَ

      Moses
      When he reached maturity and strength, we endowed him with wisdom and knowledge. We thus reward the righteous.
      وَلَمّا بَلَغَ أَشُدَّهُ وَاستَوىٰ ءاتَينٰهُ حُكمًا وَعِلمًا وَكَذٰلِكَ نَجزِى المُحسِنينَ

      Abraham
      Before that, we granted Abraham his guidance and understanding, for we were fully aware of him.*
      وَلَقَد ءاتَينا إِبرٰهيمَ رُشدَهُ مِن قَبلُ وَكُنّا بِهِ عٰلِمينَ

      GOD was aware and prepared all His prophets for the job. The least prophet Mohammed could do was to read,write and do maths because he was a merchant and buying and selling requires these basics for the business, its contracts and deals.
      Also GOD gives various information in Qoran that those living in his time knew he could write and read,example
      Mohammed
      They also said, "Tales from the past that he wrote down; they were dictated to him day and night."*
      *255 Mohammed's contemporaries knew that he was a literate man who could read and write;
      وَقالوا أَسٰطيرُ الأَوَّلينَ اكتَتَبَها فَهِىَ تُملىٰ عَلَيهِ بُكرَةً وَأَصيلًا
      GOD is aware of who will be chosen as prophet/messenger, then prepares His prophets /messengers for the job. It is a heavy job that requires knowledge and skills.
      GOD bless you all.
      Peace.

      Salam big brother..

      Yes.. I would like to add another particular set of verses.
      6943-47 here also right hand is mentioned of Prophet Mohamed.. It seems like he was used to write with his right hand.. Further verses states that "if you include any falsehood " So how come one who can not read or write include verses into Quran? God didn't blame others or said with the help of others but said directly if you include falsehood.
      That's a point to ponder.

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        jkhan
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        https//youtu.be/uM7ZkmhAjI8

        I felt that I wanted created above video after the discussion in Free-minds

        https//youtu.be/mb4Zyi1YawE

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          Jafar
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          Brother Jafar, Jesus followed and obeyed GOD. .

          Definitely, yet he did NOT followed and obeyed Torah law, which was 'claimed' to be the only 'authorative divine law set by G-d" according to the religion of his time and place. Infact he was sentenced to death by "Council Of Ulema" (Sanhedrin) due to blasphemy.

          That's why among the best definition of islam (the attitude, not the religion) can be found in Gospel, especially Jesus prayer.

          Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
          Your kingdom come,
          Let your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
          Give us this day our daily bread,
          forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
          And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

          Compassion and forgiveness is among the expression of 'unconditional love'.
          Not judging, not seeking revenge or punishment instead just letting it go.

          On eastern philosophy such attitude is also being labeled as "no attachment".
          "No attachment" shall release one from the bondage of "karma".

          Having said that; some people then tried to skew those core message by creating 'organized religion' based around the popular figure and story of Jesus, Muhammad (among few example).

          "Religion is a trickery and exploitation of human insecurity, and that it created narrow-minded lemmings who were coerced into being controlled by a fear of death”
          -- Austin

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            good_logic
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            Brother Jafar.
            you say, quote
            "Having said that; some people then tried to skew those core message by creating 'organized religion' based around the popular figure and story of Jesus, Muhammad (among few example).

            Do you mean Mohammed skewed Jesus message?
            Or do you mean people have skewed the message of Mohammed like they have done with Jesus?

            If you mean the second , I agree with you.
            Mohammed will say My people have abandoned Qoran s message- i.e created a false religion by skewing the message that agrees and confirms the message of Jesus and all GOD s messengers before and after.
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              Jafar
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              Do you mean Mohammed skewed Jesus message?
              Or do you mean people have skewed the message of Mohammed like they have done with Jesus?

              Isn't Mohammed among the people? Just like you and I?
              Does it matter which individual(s) actually performing the 'skewing'?
              I don't think it matter, what matter is to recognize the pattern.

              Again 'holy book' is among the product of organized religion.
              As can be seen by the case study of Jesus lifetime, (Torah scroll which was the 'divine holy book' as ordained by religion of his time and place)
              Jesus did not wrote any book during his lifetime, as he doesn't see that as important.
              Well and so does Mohammad.

              Among the 'pattern' of 'diversion' which can be found commonly performed by organized religion is through

              Reorienting the focus away from the core message.

              Thus I again try to reorient the focus towards the core message.

              As mentioned the core of the message can be found in Jesus praying

              Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
              Your kingdom come,
              Let your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
              Give us this day our daily bread,
              forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
              And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

              Do the above and one will have islam as attitude.
              What kind of identity, gender, religion, holy book, nationality one claimed to be or being labeled as doesn't matter.

              Learning the lesson of 'unconditional love', which among others through compassion and forgiveness is the purpose of life (or lives).

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                good_logic
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                Peace Jafar.
                Mohammed came with a similar message like Jesus did before him just like Jesus came with the message similar to the messengers before him .
                Or are you saying Jesus was the first and only one to come with the message ?
                Brother what about the people before Jesus did they not receive the message?

                After each messenger s message gets skewed , GOD sends another one to renew/reestablish the same message.

                I do not get your point.. Or you believe all the hear say about Mohammed., or you have not looked properly at his message?
                GOD bless you,
                Peace.

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                  jkhan
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                  https//youtu.be/xI8cd85irDA

                  Peace everyone..

                  In this video I discussed about why children are part and parcel of God's direct destruction... Do you have any other opinion other than mine.. What's your view.... Either respond here or in video itself. Both are welcome..

                  Thank you

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                    jkhan
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                    I got some good response from viewers gor these two explanations.. What's your view brothers and sisters. ?

                    https//youtu.be/QFqpnKGlqx0

                    https//youtu.be/5FSY1LoY3PI

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                      jkhan
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                      https//youtu.be/plX7OapqKrg

                      This is sheer my understanding.. Your views are welcome.

                      Thanks

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                        jkhan
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                        https//youtu.be/Mu_hUKUyUb4

                        Is lifespan of 20 years really possible or mere assumptions?

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                          jkhan
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                          Salam everyone...

                          I have a humble request...
                          For my YouTube channel I kindly request from those who willing to make a video explaining their understanding of purpose of living. Ensure video is shot in natural background or in city environment. Let it be minimum 15 mnts video less than that also not issue.. Yes it would be ideal to share people's view..
                          My whatsapp number 0094766313017.. Yes it will be a promotion to this channel. Share your video in my whatsapp so I upload to my YouTube channel..
                          My channel name is under my signature...
                          In future I will be vlogging in sha Allah and you will come to see lot about me.. Thank you for your cooperation.. I do appreciate.

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                            jkhan
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                            Salam everyone...

                            I have a humble request...
                            For my YouTube channel I kindly request from those who willing to make a video explaining their understanding of purpose of living. Ensure video is shot in natural background or in city environment. Let it be minimum 15 mnts video less than that also not issue.. Yes it would be ideal to share people's view..
                            My whatsapp number 0094766313017.. Yes it will be a promotion to this channel. Share your video in my whatsapp so I upload to my YouTube channel..
                            My channel name is under my signature...
                            In future I will be vlogging in sha Allah and you will come to see lot about me.. Thank you for your cooperation.. I do appreciate.

                            Salam...
                            I received only couple of replies but they also asking me what to say about purpose of life tempt
                            Guys your view not my view... That's all.. Thank you.. Pls cooperate..

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