Abortion?
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Peace Makaveli.
The forces of good and evil in the dualism of gender ?
Most men and women in here are brothers and sisters ,so I am neutral about them.
Brother,I think I finish in this thread by this saying
Confucious says,"Man who piss in wind, wind piss back"!
GOD bless you.
Peace.You could simply finish by saying nothing, it would be more plausible and complementing to what you already said here.
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So if I make myself "miserable" I shall come back as"miserable" somewhere else?
I tell you what Man Of Faith ,I shall make myself "Stand outside" ,you would then say that I shall come back as "Out Standing"!!!!That philosophy does not make sense to me brother.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I thought it was fairly straightforward. If you make your being miserable so you shall be, no one will change it for you except yourself. By miserable was meant ruining your whole personal integrity.
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A child which grows up under insecure conditions with missing/neglectful parents may very well grow up to be one of those broken souls who wander around on Earth. It is then better that those who really want to have a child have them.
I really don't think parents fully determine how they child's life will be. Surely the life of the child will not be much different from the life of his/her parents up until the moment where the child starts making decisions. There might be turning points. There might be silver linings in the midst of that cloud. It's not a clear cut.
And of course, when there is a will there is a way.
Not sure what a broken soul is.
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It is a good thing to argue about. If you take a look around you find that an immense amount of children grow up under miserable conditions, so miserable that most of them die and those who survive do not live any particular lives either. It is not so difficult to justify an abortion then for the sake of being human.
They might not live any particular life but they do get a chance to live and they meet situations where they get to choose for themselves the good or the bad, whether that happens at 20 or at 50, how can you reduce an entire life span to some possibility ? As long as one is alive then there is more and more possibilities. Hard to say "well he is likely to be a sore loser just like his father, better end his life now"
Otherwise, why would the sun bother to shine on this earth if it wasn't for people?both the good and bad ones?to live ? And why would anyone be alive one more day (and one more and one more) if it wasn't another chance to live given by the one who gave him/her that spark of life and didn't take it back yet ?
What exactly is murder according to you and why is it a sin ? Is it because you've interrupted someone's life wrongfully or is it because you got angry and things got out of control ?
In my opinion, if you've commited murder you have interrupted someone's life wrongfully. I would say it is still in concordance to the will of God but since it is the wrong thing to do therefore you have sinned.
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I am glad my mother did not abort with me when I was still a fetus. Thanks to that I am alive.
Nearly wish Man of Faith's mother would have just aborted him though and see if he would think differently. Oh wait, I am sure he wouldn't, because he would be dead. It is easy to be self-righteous in relationship to others
Yet what I said about wrong, it is yet up to the woman whether to proceed with the pregnancy or not, and no one else. And I am not going to condemn anyone for their doing
Nearly wish I could rape HP_TECH and leave him pregnant though and see if he would think differently, which I am sure he would. It is easy to be self-righteous in relationship to others.
Be well
Qarael AmenuelHow is this NOT a violation of forum rules??
How is this okay to say?You are a despicable person for expressing such vile, detestable and sexually aggressive, homosexual feelings.
I am shocked that no one said anything about this.
Huruf I am beyond words disappointed in you.
Half of you arguing that rape is a tremendous experience, have probably never even been abused.
Yet, as you have overpassed this abomination of a comment, you clearly discount reality and the fact that boys are also abused.You get emotional about rape when it comes to women but you are silent when hateful rape speech is directed toward a male?
You are despicable hypocrites. Shame on all of you.
You are just sorry feminists, sorry women apologetics. You are truly sexists. You are not behaving as Muslims. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Allah does not command unrighteousness! There is no evidence to support abortion in Quran!
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Huruf I am beyond words disappointed in you.
I guess so, but I am nto disappointed at you, you are very previsible and even though I feel that you are a good person, you act self-righteous, unable, it seems, to see what others are trying to say.
You want to make everybody fit into your conceptions and think your conceptions are God's conceptions. You are unable to conceive that every woman is empowered to connect directly with God with no intermediaries and that God has set it so. You are no intermediary between woman and God. Neither of you men or of you women is intermediary. Each woman is tied directly to God. God wants it so. You can prevent abortion not doing what you should not do. Prevent abortion raping women and forcing them and policing over them does not prevent abortion at all, it worsens it, it gets us deeper into the hell where male pretenders and intemmediaries joint by women too powerless or with too little self-respect have put humanity at large.
Men are quite able not to imitate Iblees, and in fact many good men do so, God be thanked. You (general you) may call women whatever you may like, it is in your good power to insult them and impose on them, and above all, join the hordes of superchristians becoming supermuslims who go on acting like Iblees, and come between woman and God, but you cannot help it that good men are qawwamoon for women according to God, not judges nor police over the women. When you get that, you will be nearer to being a good man, while you do not get it you will just be a pretender. Look at the example of prophets. Many males parade that only males are prophets but they hate to follow thir example. What do they think God sent them for? to make Iblees males still vainer and arrogant?
Salaam
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You get emotional about rape when it comes to women but you are silent when hateful rape speech is directed toward a male?
That's a typical behavior, why take it seriously? Don't you know about the double standards? rotfl
Males are slaves, their only purpose in life is to work their asses out and provide resources for women and children lol. Why should women treat slaves any higher than slaves? And oh when males want sex they call it rape in a marriage ;D
How can one be possibly so naive to take the words of others in all seriousness and get offended. They all are going to die.
Men are quite able not to imitate Iblees, and in fact many good men do so, God be thanked.
So apparently only men have instincts and not women? Look at what women do in general, how they make living, 90% of them in entertainment industries selling their body directly or indirectly.
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"Hateful rape speech", well, there was no hate in that, just saying if you can think in case you were raped and how you would feel then and if you would reason the same way and if you would wish to keep the child from which egg I, the rapist, fertilized with my sperm.
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"Hateful rape speech", well, there was no hate in that, just saying if you can think in case you were raped and how you would feel then and if you would reason the same way and if you would wish to keep the child from which egg I, the rapist, fertilized with my sperm.
Paausse!!I am a man!
I've known all along you were gay!
Why on Earth!!!
1)Do YOU have to be the rapist in the scenario?
2)Why the heck are you being so graphic?
3)You purposely mentioned your sperm...I know I am a good-looking guy but I can see...I like women, so quit harassing me...
I'm not going to let you ever forget this
Nearly wish I could rape HP_TECH and leave him pregnant
Super cringe...
You're creepy dudeThat's gayest thing I have ever heard anyone say. Pshhhh and you still think you are a prophet/messenger?
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Salam...
I went through this topic in order for me to understand what people talk or their opinions about ABORTION... For me simply No.. No one can kill another soul... I realized it in depth while reading divorce verses and menstrual idda... Some said here , what in the womb is the property of a woman so she has all the right to do with her property.. Well soul is not her property even it is her own soul.. She was not even allowed to hide what is the wombs of her just for the sake of Husband's right, then would Allah recommend to kill what is in the wombs? .. That was old days... Modern day.. A divorce took place and she knew she is pregnant and aborted it without informing anyone ... So after three months husband think she was not conceived .. So deal done.. Is she cheatung husband or deceived God.. who is at loss?
Remember all laws of Quran is meant for believers... So how can a believing woman go for the option of abortion even at the root level she has been prevented(abortion) by the law of God when it comes to divorce. So how else she can get pregnant unless she committed fahisha... No other way without her willingness she cannot get pregnant... Then why abort?
Yes.. One would say what about unfortunate woman believers who got raped and became pregnant... Why she should carry the illegitimate baby? Well good question.. It can happen...i agree... But don't forget God is the one who placed the baby even in such people's womb? So no one can kill another soul even self...
Another would ask, if a believing woman unfortunately got raped, can she immediately wash away the deposits to avert getting pregnant by the unfortunate incident....? Of course I don't see any blame in it... No soul is involved... Just she cleanse herself from the unfortunate incident... Is it abortion? No way...
So... Abortion of any type is never God's path...Some here talks about miscarriage and aborting them.. Fine.. What is wrong in it.. Dead always should be removed.. Why to talk about it while dead means no more.. And why to keep it in womb? It is only harmful for the living...
It some would say, if a life threatening, what can she do? Suppose if doctors say if she continues there is potential threat to mother so abort.. Well... You can't kill another soul to save self... Just trust God if you are a believer... Life will end only in the day it was destined kr every soul.. Just coz you aborted, and if you think you saved your life then foolishness. If believer trust God in such situations... You will never die a second before or after.. It has its fixed time.. So don't abort the baby... If you are to die even you abort or not you will...
If you are a believer, and if a divorced woman cannot hide what is in the wombs then how can she abort? Have they no sense then?
Reflect.... If any of you a believing woman and if you feeling to abort, pls approach God... It is not His path but path of Satan.. He is the one who command you to do evil and make you feel that it is right... He threatens you with fear...
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Above is the top 10 reasons for abortion... So believer cannot have any of them if they indeed trust God and be patient.. If no patience then he or she cannot be a true believer...
Thank you..