Inheritance according to Qur?an
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If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.Who gets the remaining 100 liras?
How much do only two girls get?
How much do only boy(s) get?
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4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants.False, contradicts 411 if siblings to mother 1/6
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If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritanceWho gets the remaining half?
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If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritanceIf 2+ brothers, how much they get?
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If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirdsWho gets the remaining one-third?
If 3+ sisters, how much they get?
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.
I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.
Resolution of Heritage Verses
Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...
When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.
Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.
Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).
And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)
Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one
Nisa
411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.
I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis
Nisa
- "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."
That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.
Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.
"If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."
So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
(By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.
"If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."
As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.
Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.
"If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."
We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).
Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.
"If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."
In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).
In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.
In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.
"If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."
If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)
Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.
If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formulaIf the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).
If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.
(Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.
As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.
While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.
As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.
“A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.
Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)
". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"
According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.
As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.
Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example
48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html
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that clearly contradicts 423
and that thou cohabit ye of between the sisters two
except what assuredly befellhow much to wives in cases other than sisters two?
likewise prophet had many wives, how much to each?
likewise prophet had daughters, how much to each?
Peace..
Well... Don't complicate it or intentionally do so. Whatever..
423 advises for men... Right? What about women?
So there is no verse for women... Right! but the same verse for women too.. Isn't it? Any objection? For example "forbidden for you is mothers" so take the verse as "forbidden for you is fathers" when it comes to women.. Agree??
So you guys talking about TWO SISTERS (biological) which is mentioned in the same verse 423 in marriage at a time .. No at a time is mentioned there.. No such wording.. And remember same verse is instruction for WOMEN forbidden in marriage for them.. So.. does that mean TWO BROTHERS (biological) at a time forbidden and except what has passed.. So we can deduce, if not biological TWO MEN at a time is allowed for a woman similarly you deduced that TWO WOMEN in marriage at a time is allowed by the same verse.. Logically Yes or No??
Again I reiterate don't complicate MMA of that community.. Specific.. Chapter 235-6 they are guarding their modesty except with spouse or MMA.. Remember no sex without marriage.. MMA or freewoman, you can only reach if married only.. So they can have a spouse (wife) and MMAs and they can breach their modesty with them.. But still free woman and MMA are wives.. Yes it's polygamy but free woman is one and MMA as it depends as far as what QURAN instructs.. It's very clear when it comes to property division only wife comes into picture.. Otherwise Allah would have clarified like He clarified about one son and one daughter and multiple children etc when it comes to multiple wives.. But wife who free woman is one.. That's why divorce law is constituted.. You can't marry while you married already with free woman.. Except MMAs.. That's what world is experiencing..
Note well.. Even MMAs married already even without divorce they were allowed to marry them if they were under them.. 2324.. Can you marry Somone who is already married.. So how can you marry another free woman while you already have a married woman unless MMA which had it's reasons of tangibility..
Now let me tell my understanding of Al-Ukhthain .. It is not normal two sisters.. But sounds manifestly different.. Word thajmau / you joining or agreeing .. word BAINA/was or amongst ... Word Al-Ukhthain / twins (f)
"And that agreeing of you amongst the twin sisters " = FORBIDDEN...
but they were astray before Quran was revealed and life has moved on long way but Allah informed to keep them.. No need any actions.. But after the verse revealed FORBIDDEN.. They would have thought marrying twins is okay in their culture.. But not in God's law.. NOT EVEN TWINS PERMITTED..
So this verse never allows to marry two women... How you judge it? If it allows then it should allow to marry two men (I know consequences and dont bring it here)So.. Iiterally polygamy was allowed in that society with MMA but freewoman only one .to marry another freewoman just divorce .. Same to women.. To marry another man just divorce and wait..
That's Allah says if you are not able to marry a free woman then marry MMA.. And in case with time if he is able he can marry a free woman who is truly his wife..
Read 3350-52 and note hoW it differs from general believers to prophet.. And carefully note 3352 it says after this no more marriage.. So how dare one would ever say one can marry 50 or 100 women while even to Mohamed marriage was restricted with 3352.. Have you no sense..
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Well... Don't complicate it or intentionally do so. Whatever..
Why don't you answer simple questions?
How much to each of the prophets wives?
How much to each of prophets daughters?
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
Thanks again for the great interest from all over the world in my analysis. As we can see, the Qur'an is perfect way of dividing inheritance.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
That is, if there is no spouse, you apply verse 11, if there is a spouse, you apply verse 12, and if there are only siblings, you apply verse 176.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
This is a Quran based islam forum. If you fail to reply to questions asked in your threads and/or provide Quranic evidence for your claims your posts may be deleted/trashed and your account suspended.
Moderators, I've reported his failure to answer questions.
His posts should be deleted/trashed account suspended.Thank you!
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why you keep posting littering the thread?
why don't you answer the simple question?how much to each of the prophets wives?
how much to each of prophets daughters?Don't be adament on your misguidance.. Be honest and seek guidance.. How many times I reiterated that it's not talking about prophet and his property division... Prophet Allah gave different law.. Read 3350-52...
Verses are clear how much wife gets and children.. If you are not able to perceive, how can I help an adament person..
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Moderators, I've reported his failure to answer questions.
His posts should be deleted/trashed account suspended.Thank you!
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Well. That brother Emere has brought his understandung of Quran and not hadith... With time he will update his guidance God willing.. But those who follow hadith clearly associate and you seems you have multiple accounts here... Moderators for your attention.. Sunnis are creepy when losing patience ..calm down..He delays in answering through Quran doesn't mean he failed to answer... But some here keep posting Hadoth like parrots and never answer.. Perhaps moderator meant them...
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Verses are clear how much wife gets and children.. If you are not able to perceive, how can I help an adament person..
If they are clear then post it here?
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quote author=Emre_1974tr link=msg=443145 date=1709607569
If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.Who gets the remaining 100 liras?
How much do only two girls get?
How much do only boy(s) get?
quote author=Emre_1974tr link=msg=443145 date=1709607569
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants.False, contradicts 411 if siblings to mother 1/6
quote author=Emre_1974tr link=msg=443145 date=1709607569
If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritanceWho gets the remaining half?
quote author=Emre_1974tr link=msg=443145 date=1709607569
If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritanceIf 2+ brothers, how much they get?
quote author=Emre_1974tr link=msg=443145 date=1709607569
If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirdsWho gets the remaining one-third?
If 3+ sisters, how much they get?
Anyone else like to answer, since he ran away?
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If they are clear then post it here?
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? to daughtersRead the verses or say you don't understand the verses.. If you don't understand then don't boast here... And search of you need further explanation ... Don't waste time of people here while you have decided already...
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.
I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.
Resolution of Heritage Verses
Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...
When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.
Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.
Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).
And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)
Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one
Nisa
411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.
I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis
Nisa
- "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."
That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.
Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.
"If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."
So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
(By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.
"If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."
As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.
Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.
"If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."
We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).
Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.
"If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."
In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).
In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.
In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.
"If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."
If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)
Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.
If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formulaIf the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).
If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.
(Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.
As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.
While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.
As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.
“A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.
Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)
". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"
According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.
As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.
Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example
48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html
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If they are clear then post it here?
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? to daughtersIt's not rocket science but revealed to people of Mohamed first their rights.. If anyone not getting what QURAN has explained in verse 411 412 and 4176 regarding heir.. Let me elaborate my personal understanding of them..
4176 about Kalala ie No parent or children for a man or woman after death (could be unmarried or lost wife and parents and children but Perhaps having at least a sibling)
411 after either father or mothers demise children's rights or heir
412 after either husband's or wife's demise, each others rights or heir..
Now let's look in detail what verses speak of and not beyond it..
4176
1...Man died and No one except a sister then sister = half ..vice-versa
2...Same.. Woman died and no one for her except a brother then brother = half..vice-versa3...if two sisters for dead man, then 2/3 two third for two sisters ..
4...same logic two brothers only 2/3 two third for two brothers..
5.... When brothers and sisters then DOUBLE of Sisters to brothers..
Clear?
Summarize
1 brother only = Half
1 Sister only = Half
2 brothers only = two third
2 sisters only = two third1 brother and 1 sister = brother double compared to sister..
Even more siblings same criteria.. But nothing should exceed 2/3 of total wealth.. That's maximum..
Balance at each time should well and truely go for sadaqa by rulers since the deceased has not written his will.. Had he or she written he could have written as he willed.. No restriction..
Clear.. ?Note other than brother or sister no one can get such people's properties... Balance sadaqa always.. Allah knows when HE said half and only one sister there will be half balance... So logical.. If no siblings then totally sadaqa yo governement and rulers Know as believers how to give sadaqa to poor..
411
Children's heir plus parents..1... Son = double of daughter (conditional)
2....daughter = half of son (conditional)
3....one daughter only = half
4... One son only = half..
5.... two or more daughters only = 2/3 two third
6 ....two or more sons only same logic = 2/3 two third..
6...if one son and two daughters, or 2 sons and 2 or 3 whatever daughters = son double of single daughter..
Clear...?
Parents..
7.... If at least one child for the one deceased (either father or mother) then for his or her parents = 2/6 two sixth ie 1/6 for each..
8..... If no child at all for deceased (either father or mother) then for his or her mother only = 1/3 one third.. Father proportion not change 1/6 one sixth
9...but if deceased (husband or wife) no child but siblings are there then deceased parents( mother and father) = 2/6 ie 1/6 each no change..
412
Husband and wife rights heir ...
1...Husband died then for wife (single) if no child = 1/4 one fourth
2... If wife died then for husband if no child = half
3.... If husband died and left at least a child then for wife = 1/8 one eighth
4.... If wife died and left at least a child then for husband = 1/4 one fourth..
5... If wife died and no child and no parents too and if for husband a sister or brother then for each = 1/6 one sixth..
6... If wife died and no child and no parents but husband has brothers and sisters then = 1/3 one third but share among them..
Note if one meticulously explore if there are any balance in 411 and 412 that should go sadaqa but I think since there are people to inherit I don't think it would go to charity unless a very minute amount and not like 4176
For example.. Now work out if a father died and only one daughter and wife is there too and his parents are alive too... Apply the criteria..
Salam..
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Read the verses or say you don't understand the verses.. If you don't understand then don't boast here... And search of you need further explanation ... Don't waste time of people here while you have decided already...
I read the verses and understand them clearly!
Again, you failed to answer a simple question.
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters
Again, you fail to answer questions and reported you to moderator.
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Let me elaborate my personal understanding of them..
4176 about Kalala ie No parent or children for a man or woman after death
False! Contradicts 411 to mother 1/6 if siblings
4176
1...Man died and No one except a sister then sister = half ..vice-versa
2...Same.. Woman died and no one for her except a brother then brother = half..vice-versaFalse! You cannot read clear Arabic.
Likewise, please answer who gets the other half?3...if two sisters for dead man, then 2/3 two third for two sisters ..
Who gets the other 1/3?
4...same logic two brothers only 2/3 two third for two brothers..
Clear?
False! It's clear you cannot read clear Arabic.
411
3....one daughter only = half
4... One son only = half..
5.... two or more daughters only = 2/3 two third
False! Who gets the other half? Who gets the other 1/3?
Likewise in clear Arabic it says over two NOT two or more!
6 ....two or more sons only same logic = 2/3 two third..
6...if one son and two daughters, or 2 sons and 2 or 3 whatever daughters = son double of single daughter..
Clear...?
False! Again, it's clear you cannot read clear Arabic!
Parents..
8..... If no child at all for deceased (either father or mother) then for his or her mother only = 1/3 one third.. Father proportion not change 1/6 one sixth
False! Who gets the remaining 1/2?
412
6... If wife died and no child and no parents but husband has brothers and sisters then = 1/3 one third but share among them..
False! It doesn't say "no parents!"
Where you get the meaning of Kalala? Hadith? laughFor example.. Now work out if a father died and only one daughter and wife is there too and his parents are alive too... Apply the criteria..
I've already answered in prior post.
What's your answer?? parents (411)
? wife (412)
? daughter (or two daughters or children/Awlādikum)Salaam!
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.
I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.
Resolution of Heritage Verses
Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...
When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.
Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.
Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).
And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)
Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one
Nisa
411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.
I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis
Nisa
- "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."
That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.
Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.
"If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."
So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
(By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.
"If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."
As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.
Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.
"If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."
We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).
Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.
"If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."
In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).
In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.
In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.
"If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."
If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)
Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.
If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formulaIf the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).
If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.
(Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)
In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.
As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.
While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.
As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.
“A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.
Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)
". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"
According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.
As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.
Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example
48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
Salaam salak!
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.
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I read the verses and understand them clearly!
Again, you failed to answer a simple question.
Do the wives and children of prophets inherit?Don't be a joker here.. Don't you understand verses 411-12 and 4176...
It's not about prophets property or believers property... It's when Someone NOT written a will.. Damn.. Get that right..
Prophet can give his properties as he wish to his wives with a will and prophet can give as wised amongst his children.. Same anyone.. I can give as I want my properties with a WILL..Don't dance here.. Again I reiterate.. VERSES ARE ABOUT WHO DIDN'T WRITE A WILL.. SO APPLY..
If this is the division process then why one need to write a WILL.. are you nonsensical or what? Wasting other people time... Go ask in hadith forum..
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For others' benefit Inheritance verses draw criticism from missionaries, followers of different faiths, atheists, scientists, et al., leading many to doubt the book—especially with ignorant posters on sites like this, one of the worst on the internet.
https//www.google.com/books/edition/Qur_anic_Term_Kalala/taQxEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1
An anonymous poet stated
Surely, a father protects his offspring more fiercely,
while a patron l-kalālati (fatherless) not gets angry
ومولى الكلالة لا يغضبIn above poem, protector (Mawlá) takes place of the father.
Example
1/6 mother (411)
1/8 wife/wives (412)
1/3 siblings (412)
3/8 remainder to child (411 if mixed gender)411 to the male similar portion (fortune) the two females
2 daughters, 1+ sons (2.0x to males)411 so if they are womenfolk above two (3+), so for them (f) third dual (2/3) what left
3+ daughters, 1+ sons
2/3 three females (2/9 each), 1/3 male (1.5x to male)
2/3 four females (1/6 each), 1/3 male (2.0x to male)
2/3 five females (2/15 each), 1/3 male (2.5x to male)
2/3 six females (1/9 each), 1/3 male (3.0x to male)411 and if she is one (female), so for her the half (1/2)
1 daughter, 1+ sons (share equally)Example
1/6 to mother (411),
1/4 to wife/wives (412),
7/12 remainder to sibling(s) (if mixed gender 4176)4176 so for her half (1/2) mā/what left
1 sister, 1+ brothers (they share equally)4176 so if they are two females, so to them dual the third each (2/3)
2 sisters, 1+ brothers (they share equally)4176 and if are they siblings menfolk and womenfolk (3+),
so to the male similar portion (fortune) the females two
3+ sisters, 1+ brothers (2.0x to males)Salaam!
