Age of Nuh in Quran

Bajram_Hoxhaj

1242 Falabitha/so remain in the prison for several (3 to 10) Sinīna/years (i.e., 1, 2, 3, ..., sequence)

1247 planting seven Sinīna/years (1,2,3, …, 7 sequence)

Not planting seven Sanatin (duration i.e., time length)

1249 Amun/year (specific) in it given relief the people

2247 and indeed “a day” near lord your like thousand Sanatin/year (duration) of what thou calculating

2914 and hath assuredly sent we “a Noah” towards folk his Falabitha/so remain in (amidst) them thousand Sanatin/year (duration) only Amaan/fifty year of (specific), so seizes them the deluge and they were unjustly

2915 so saves we him and companions the Safīnati/barge (feminine) and made we it (f) sign to the world’s inhabitants

During the thousand-year (millennium) duration or the era (day) of the 'Noahs'...

jkhan

Whatever...
I am overwhelmingly satisfied with 950 years until someone produce a glaring and irrefutable evidence in the verse...

Fusion

Is this a Quran-only forum where we're so focused on the literal understanding of 950 years as if it's the main purpose of the Quran? It feels like we're getting caught up in debates similar to conventional discussions on minutiae, like whether one should raise their hands during Salah. I believe we need to remind ourselves that the essence of the Quran transcends these specifics.

The Quran is a guide for our spiritual journey, ethical conduct, and how we treat others. It's about understanding the deeper messages of compassion, justice, and wisdom that it imparts. While historical and factual discussions can be enriching and provide valuable insights into our faith, they shouldn't overshadow the Quran's broader teachings that directly impact how we live our lives today.

Let's not lose sight of the forest for the trees. The story of Noah and the specificity of his age serve to teach us about patience, perseverance, and faith among other lessons, rather than to focus solely on the literal duration of his life. What matters most is how these teachings affect our actions and decisions in the present.

Can we move on from this topic and explore discussions that help us reflect on the core values and principles that the Quran wants us to embody? What's the point of dwelling on these details if we miss the opportunity to grow spiritually and morally? Let's focus on how we can apply the Quran's guidance in our lives today and how it helps us navigate the challenges we face.

I heard about a critical moment in Islamic history during the Mongol siege of Baghdad in 1258. This event is often cited as an example of the intellectual and political fragmentation within the Muslim world at the time, which arguably contributed to the fall of Baghdad, the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate. The Mongol army, led by Hulagu Khan, besieged and subsequently sacked Baghdad, leading to a massive loss of life and the destruction of countless cultural treasures, including the famed House of Wisdom.

jkhan

If you are tired, keep away.. No-one compels anyone here..

Of course Allah alone is the way.. So taking Quran alone which is believed to be onlu remaining complete revelation is meant as Allah's communication pave way for guidance.. It's not Quran alone site.. Otherwise they won't keep a segment called Hadith Discussion ... Right!.. So just chill..

Yes it may sound for people who are sandwitched between hadiths and quran, bit a trivial matter, but no verse of Quran is trivial and every verse will strengthen the faith of a person and nothing to be wrongly assumed or neglected.. If not understand better be patient and seek guidance ..

Prophet Nuh's age doesn't matter to us but the verse matters indeed.. If indeed prophet Nuh lived 950 years and people who call believers keeping hypocrocy in heart will always say otherwise cuz they don't want to deviate from scientific point of view or they don't want to get mocked.. Lot of topics in Quran or such nature.. It really tests the faith in Allah whether they choose Allah's verses as it is or they believe in human speculation.. It does matter... There are many verses in Quran that is hard for hypocrites to accept and they remain neutral or silent and trying to justify why it matters.. You can't develop faith by neglecting facts of Quran even how much it contradicts to modern science speculation and it is neither holistic nor empirical..
Believer believes everything in Quran and never doubts but he explores with belief not with doubt. If I give an analogy for true believer it is like if an investigation officer observed a dead body and realized it is not natural death but murdered then there is a murderer attached to it and with that real faith he will hunt for the killer and not with doubt like "is body murdered or naturally died" not with confusion...
Believer believes all verses and not doubt but to seek guidance and understanding, he works hard and only approach Allah to guide..but he seeks knowledge from everyone.. But Guidance only from Allah..

950 years is clear in obvious verse.. Accept if one believes in Allah or say not understand or bring the real meaning with logic... But don't make it trivial as if there are lot of hefty topic to be discussed... Every verse of Quran is same.. Rejecting one verse with intent is enough for misguidance and to become a beliar or hypocrite... Allah definitely expose hypocrocy of people through His revelations cuz all points are well set up by Allah in Quran for people whose hearts are full of disease to get deviated.. Quran is like a trap and can easily be alluded. Cuz fabrication to Quran is immense... And fabrication through Quran is prevalent and in majority and these fabrications strangely looks identical. .Thats how Allah traps those hypocrites and disbelievers... Quran has literally kept landmines in every chapter... For example let me bring one of those landmines. "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger " ... It's a trap... Hypocrites will choose the fabrications... Everything... Shahada Salah Siyam Zaka haj and many more... For everything fabrication is in place and those who not satisfied and not look for guidance from Allah alone would definitely approach fabrication stating we don't understand Quran but they will understand fabrication but they won't realize it's a trap from Allah Himself.. ..

hawk99

Is this a Quran-only forum where we're so focused on the literal understanding of 950 years as if it's the main purpose of the Quran? It feels like we're getting caught up in debates similar to conventional discussions on minutiae, like whether one should raise their hands during Salah. I believe we need to remind ourselves that the essence of the Quran transcends these specifics.

The Quran is a guide for our spiritual journey, ethical conduct, and how we treat others. It's about understanding the deeper messages of compassion, justice, and wisdom that it imparts. While historical and factual discussions can be enriching and provide valuable insights into our faith, they shouldn't overshadow the Quran's broader teachings that directly impact how we live our lives today.

Let's not lose sight of the forest for the trees. The story of Noah and the specificity of his age serve to teach us about patience, perseverance, and faith among other lessons, rather than to focus solely on the literal duration of his life. What matters most is how these teachings affect our actions and decisions in the present.

Can we move on from this topic and explore discussions that help us reflect on the core values and principles that the Quran wants us to embody? What's the point of dwelling on these details if we miss the opportunity to grow spiritually and morally? Let's focus on how we can apply the Quran's guidance in our lives today and how it helps us navigate the challenges we face.

I heard about a critical moment in Islamic history during the Mongol siege of Baghdad in 1258. This event is often cited as an example of the intellectual and political fragmentation within the Muslim world at the time, which arguably contributed to the fall of Baghdad, the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate. The Mongol army, led by Hulagu Khan, besieged and subsequently sacked Baghdad, leading to a massive loss of life and the destruction of countless cultural treasures, including the famed House of Wisdom.

I agree with you Fusion what is the moral of the story not what was the size of the sandals he wore

Peace,

Many of the stories from the bible repeated slightly differently in Quran are just that "stories" That are meant to teach us knowledge wisdom and understanding. They are not to be taken literally. One lesson is While Noah's spiritual kinsfolk survives by riding on his Lifeboat, others fail to embark. His son despite the close kinship who thought there was another way perished with the rejecters and had become spiritually dead, they all drowned or where left behind by the overwhelming deluge of mental shallowness and worldly desires.

The Quran is an amazing text of guidance and can be the greatest Inspiration if approached as a teacher and not as a history book. Can someone live to be 950 years old nope no that is anatomically impossible.

God bless

peace

Fusion

If you are tired, keep away.. No-one compels anyone here..

I appreciate your perspective and always find your posts and logic to be reasonable. It’s not about being tired or compelled; rather, I feel sometimes there's a bit of beating around the bush. I believe you have significant potential to contribute even more to our forum discussions.

JKhan, I've always noticed your commendable patience and manners. I hope you continue to maintain your composure in our discussions.

good_logic

Peace.
Just like the future , the past has its own time and space. The present always finds itself making a lot of.assumptions and guesses about the past like it does for the future.
Apart from some secure and accurate facts with clear evidence that we can clearly make about the past ,we have many missing information about it. The earlier the period the mora problems with lack of evidence.

So it comes down to interpretation of the stories .And there are many different interpretations of many stories that one needs to unravel.
For us in the present only the moral of the story of the past and its lesson are important and beneficial.

For me, I am entering my seven score years this year and I am running out of patience and energy for life in general. I know it is not up to me how long I live , but hats off to those who reach beyond the seventy and keep the life battle for many more years and stay sane.

Do not get me wrong I am thankful to the Lord for keeping me healthy and safe so far and I acknowledge that without my belief I would have gone mentally insane.

Hats off to Noah, however long after the seventy years he managed to carry on. I can easily hold the white flag before the century and ask my creator to release me from this ongoing battle even though I am enjoying the challenge so far. Well trying to as best I can.

I ask myself this important question
Would I have sided with Noah ,if I lived in his generation, or opposed and ridiculed him|?

GOD knows and GOD wills.
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

jkhan

It's not about appreciation or agreeing other person's comments... It's about the verse and what it says. .Say you don't understand the verse with true heart and in truth... Fine... But having something else in mind about the verse and beating around the bush... What for?
Just say simply say what is the meaning of the verse... Isn't the verse clear or not able to accept it..
That's how Allah tests hypocrites... Cuz they don't believe but they just think so... There are 100s of verses they would try to manipulate with science or would say "is this important"... Hypocrocy at its best... When I was debating with Quran verses about earth and heavens .yes. is the shape of the earth important?... Well... It's not shape of the earth which is important but what Allah says in Quran is important not what others say... Cannot manipulate...
Same with Hadith followers... They try to manipulate the verses in line with hadith and those who are convinced in science speculation, they try to manipulate with it...
And they all have not given Allah's verses importance but Human inventions..
Same with Nuh remaining with them and people of cave. They want to present a different meaning out of nothing which makes no sense at all.. What for ? Yes. Not ready to accept Allah's verses and actual reality...
No one denies verses of Allah save hypocrites and disbelievers...
Good luck in journey guys... I am not accountable for your decision... Same in my case... But verses never lie..

jkhan

Or else we can highlight the supernatural powers given to certain prophets with Allah's permission.. Yes.. They are not ready to accept, they manipulate verses. I mean not conventional Muslims but those who call we follow Quran alone..
The reason is they are not ready to believe in Allah's verses and they feel it contradicts with science.. Thus, what they indeed believed was in science speculation and not Quran's verses which is truthful...
They say Musa didnt do any of those miracles neither Isa son of Maryam... Why? Cuz their faith is in science speculations over Quran verses and their hearts already got a place about those speculations and they won't empty it just cuz of Quran verses... So they either reject or manipulate...
Allah tests people within their capacity... Perfect...
When I asked an scholar who said neither Nuh nor Firoun people were destroyed by water but it was sea of confusion... Mode of destruction not water but sea of confusion.. Lol
So cuz of sea of confusion so Firoun and his mighty forces, Musa delivered bani Israel and captured lands .. . If one says sea of confusion then answer to questions raised logically but scholar blocks and reject... Is it coz sea of confusion Firoun accepted in his last moment stating " I believe in the lord of Musa and Bani Israel " .. What made Firoun say it? And Allah refused to accept.. It's too late..

Easy to bring with excitement any meaning to any stories but should be ready to answer with honesty the objections raised...
But instead this scholar keep saying in his every video, EMPTY YOUR CUP... lol. This Chinese proverb.. Why to empty the cup to learn knowledge.. Is it to fill everything what he says in the emptied Cup? elektro
The knowledgeable one not in necessity to empty his knowledge to learn but with his knowledge itself he realizes what others say.. For example to learn and understand Quran you don't need to empty anything but you can realize the truth and you can realize the path you are in is erroneous while reading with intent of seeking true guidance ... Best example is magicians who came to defeat Musa.. They didn't empty the cup.. But they immediately realized what they were in was nothing in light of what Musa produced.. So they paved way to the truth leaving their falsehood.

NOTE once realized and understood and got the guidance only cup should be emptied and not before just to fill their own whims into already emptied cup.. Rediculous.. Did Messengers went to his people and asked them to empty cup.. No.. They heralded the message of their Lord and let them reflect..
The reason Allah says He delivered the Quran gradually to strengthen the heart of prophet.. So the emptying process is gradual and not even before reading it..

SO EASY.. EMPTY YOUR CUP AND FILL WHAT I SAY... that's brainwash.. That's why when children's minds are empty they easily brainwash and fill all nonsense.. And they are trying the same logic with learned ones.. rotfl rotfl rotfl
Nothing to empty, just realize the truth and leave falsehood.. To leave falsehood first realize the truth...

good_logic

Peace jkhan.

So you are assuming that I gave you my translation of the verse?
How many years did I say Noah lived?
Yet you speak as though you know for sure.

I am saying that in my opinion, Noah s age like the shape of the earth has many different interpretations from different folks and it is not important to me that they differ..
The verse has used "Aam" and "Sana" why? I have not found your argument solid about the use of these two terms and even if you think it is, it is irrelevant and has nothing to do with guidance.

That does not mean Noah did not live 950 years, however those who say this is far fetched are entitled to their take ,and I do not go calling them Hypocrites or not guided. Their conduct and morals are tested above these irrelevant information.

Give your take ,fair enough, but do not insist on your way even if others deny "your evidence". Has not many people denied GOD s evidence , and this comes with complete knowledge from the all knowledgeable?

Or do you not agree that the past is useful mainly for taking lessons from it about how to live and correct our ways and works?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

jkhan

Peace jkhan.

So you are assuming that I gave you my translation of the verse?
How many years did I say Noah lived?
Yet you speak as though you know for sure.

I am saying that in my opinion, Noah s age like the shape of the earth has many different interpretations from different folks and it is not important to me that they differ..
The verse has used "Aam" and "Sana" why? I have not found your argument solid about the use of these two terms and even if you think it is, it is irrelevant and has nothing to do with guidance.

That does not mean Noah did not live 950 years, however those who say this is far fetched are entitled to their take ,and I do not go calling them Hypocrites or not guided. Their conduct and morals are tested above these irrelevant information.

Give your take ,fair enough, but do not insist on your way even if others deny "your evidence". Has not many people denied GOD s evidence , and this comes with complete knowledge from the all knowledgeable?

Or do you not agree that the past is useful mainly for taking lessons from it about how to live and correct our ways and works?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Salam..

I didn't address you lovely brother...

jkhan

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So much is speculated about strange way of pronouncing numbers in Quran especially numbers after 100 and when the number is not exactly simple round numbers..
Quran has mentioned 1-10 and pronounced them.. And 11-20 only three numbers 11, 12 and 19.. And all other numbers are round numbers ending in zero digit except 99..
We never know the reason to call 1000 save 50 or 300 plus 9.. One possible reason could be that people never pronounced those numbers in words.. For example "Three hundred and Nine" or "Nine Hundred and Fifty" ..So no point of pronouncing in correct way by Allah while people still not familiar with such pronunciation .. Did they pronounce "Ninety Nine Thousand Nine Hundred and Ninety Nine " in Arabic ... I don't know.. Allah knows best.. So there could be a possible reason why Allah simplify and make them know what exactly 309 is or 950 is..
Look! QURAN has used Sana / Aama / Hawl to mean YEAR and no specific reason save synonym... But we don't know there was a system to pronounce other than extreme round numbers and notable numbers...
Just cuz of some unknown history, how can one deduce Sana means unproductive and Aama means productive...
They remained in cave 300 unproductive plus 9 hypocrites.. Wow.. What manipulation is that..
He doesn't answer when asked then what is the meaning of 1811

" So We cast over their ears within the cave for a number of years (Sineen Adada) ....."

Very carelessly neglect.. They didn't at all stay in the cave according to scholar and it is not years but Productive + Hypocrites.. Wow.. Then what is 1811 ... Simply nonsensical... Nothing else to say..

So those who love science over Quran embrace such conjunction and claim Yeah.. No one can be alive in sleep for more than 300 years.. So Quran must have meant something else.. And when some scholar comes up with such translations they immediately fall prey to it cuz they were long doubting it.. So they feel they found an answer to it..

Anyway.. As I always say.. Seek guidance from Allah alone and don't doubt verses of Allah if you indeed believers...hypocrites and disbelievers only doubt the verses of Allah or manipulate..
Thank you..

Note any volunteer..pls check original Torah whatever remains in Hebrew language, how 950 is written? Is it worded or numeric.. Quran has never user any numeric ..all verses in Quran are in letters...That could probably mean numeric were not written but only pronounced in their own style.. Further.. When we look at geometrical value chart of Arabic letters, they have given all 28 letters value 1-10 and 20-100 and 200-1000 ... So it seems numerics were not in use.. That's a point to reflect too..

kaltun

peace to all,

so Nuh lived 950 years .. how about his family , not a single word about the long life of his tribes or his wife(s) nor his children..
so he watched his loved ones die and lived long lonely life ...

btw al-injeel is not the bible, if you say it is , please proof this via the Quran

hawk99

Peace,

Peace good brothers and sisters, to understand that the story of Noah is a parable and not about his age, you must not just read 2914 but the context from 2914 to 2943 to get a clearer understanding of his and the stories of those who succeeded him. The knowledge that we can extract from the lessons being given by the examples and the similitudes are intended for our spiritual growth in our lives and as conveyance to others as we journey forward. handshake

God bless

peace

Fusion

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So much is speculated about strange way of pronouncing numbers in Quran especially numbers after 100 and when the number is not exactly simple round numbers..
Quran has mentioned 1-10 and pronounced them.. And 11-20 only three numbers 11, 12 and 19.. And all other numbers are round numbers ending in zero digit except 99..
We never know the reason to call 1000 save 50 or 300 plus 9.. One possible reason could be that people never pronounced those numbers in words.. For example "Three hundred and Nine" or "Nine Hundred and Fifty" ..So no point of pronouncing in correct way by Allah while people still not familiar with such pronunciation .. Did they pronounce "Ninety Nine Thousand Nine Hundred and Ninety Nine " in Arabic ... I don't know.. Allah knows best.. So there could be a possible reason why Allah simplify and make them know what exactly 309 is or 950 is..
Look! QURAN has used Sana / Aama / Hawl to mean YEAR and no specific reason save synonym... But we don't know there was a system to pronounce other than extreme round numbers and notable numbers...
Just cuz of some unknown history, how can one deduce Sana means unproductive and Aama means productive...
They remained in cave 300 unproductive plus 9 hypocrites.. Wow.. What manipulation is that..
He doesn't answer when asked then what is the meaning of 1811

" So We cast over their ears within the cave for a number of years (Sineen Adada) ....."

Very carelessly neglect.. They didn't at all stay in the cave according to scholar and it is not years but Productive + Hypocrites.. Wow.. Then what is 1811 ... Simply nonsensical... Nothing else to say..

So those who love science over Quran embrace such conjunction and claim Yeah.. No one can be alive in sleep for more than 300 years.. So Quran must have meant something else.. And when some scholar comes up with such translations they immediately fall prey to it cuz they were long doubting it.. So they feel they found an answer to it..

Anyway.. As I always say.. Seek guidance from Allah alone and don't doubt verses of Allah if you indeed believers...hypocrites and disbelievers only doubt the verses of Allah or manipulate..
Thank you..

Note any volunteer..pls check original Torah whatever remains in Hebrew language, how 950 is written? Is it worded or numeric.. Quran has never user any numeric ..all verses in Quran are in letters...That could probably mean numeric were not written but only pronounced in their own style.. Further.. When we look at geometrical value chart of Arabic letters, they have given all 28 letters value 1-10 and 20-100 and 200-1000 ... So it seems numerics were not in use.. That's a point to reflect too..

You may have a point here, however regardless of whether we see the age of 950 as literal or symbolic, the core message and the guidance it imparts remain a significant part of our spiritual journey.

The original Hebrew text for Noah's age in Genesis 929 from the Tanakh is as follows

"וַיִּהְיוּ כָל־יְמֵי נֹחַ תְּשַׁע מֵאוֹת שָׁנָה וַחֲמִשִּׁים שָׁנָה וַיָּמֹת"

In this verse, the words "תְּשַׁע מֵאוֹת" (tesha me'ot) mean "nine hundred" and "וַחֲמִשִּׁים" (va'hamishim) means "and fifty," which together express the number 950 in the Hebrew text.
This is in keeping with the traditional Hebrew writing system where numbers are represented by letters.

jkhan

@Kaltun

Salam...
Good to hear from you after long lapse..
Yes.. Brother.. Let's consider only what is mentioned in Quran and Allah has not mentioned about his family's surviving years... And it is not Torah.. Look!.. Quran clearly refers a book called Torah and such a named book still around and there might have been definitely infusions as Quran itself claims they change... But book's name is same so we can't totally discard it.. In such a book everything is mentioned about ages of those people and needless to repeat what Allah has already clarified.. Yes Allah has mentuoned stories what is already in Torah, in Quran too but not in identical manner. Why to totally reject Torah while it contains Alan's verses and names like Gibreal Adam Nuh Ibrahim Musa and many more.. Are all these lies? These names are not inventions and they are the same names Allah repeats in QURAN.. Since Torah explained ages, Quran or Injeel may not have repeated but later books came to confirm earlier books.. Yes.. Injeel is not bible... And bible is not totally human made book either but definitely a book of human with God's revelations inserted partially.. So when you read Quran you can discard what is not aligned with Quran.. Bur Yes.. You can discard even totally bible since the name itself not in Quran.. Up to you... But you can't discard Torah.. Simply you can't.. It contains God's verses for sure and the name of the book remains ... Though there can be infusions.. You can understand human verses in Torah while reading Quran.. And remember most of you don't read direct Hebrew verses but translations.. So who knows what is translated like Quran is translated to taste their own religion.. Torah didn't come after Quran to mention Nuh lived 950 years but it was there before Quran and still there..
In Torah one Entire chapter is all about ages and their stories only.. So if you think it is a made up stories then up to you.. If everything in genesis is wrong then it is impossible for what reason..

@Hawk
Salam..
Yes.. Every story in Quran Allah gives a sign /lesson for us to reflect but one will grasp the story completely if he understands the story without any blemish only and with Allah's guidance alone.. If one says age not important, then 950 Kafirs who lived is important?.. Why we we want to know the number of kafirs? Needless.. But if Nuh tarried with them 950 years then it will definitely test the audience and readers whether this story is real or fairy tale... Cuz his mind will question 950 is sureal... Allah tests.. Allah could have ended the story without the verse 2914 where 1000-50 is mentioned and still we understand the message of complete story.. Same with people of cave.. Allah could have ended the story without 309 and still we understand.. But these specific lines tests our faith truly cuz we are not prepared enough to accept 950 years of life span or 309 alive sleeping ... . so most deduce.. Wow what a fish story.. Anceint fairy tale...

@Fusion..
Salam
Thank you.. Let's hope you stated what it is written in Hebrew.. So it means most probably Hebrew people were advanced in numeric to mention all those numbers in modern way..

In addition to that I highly doubt the number of years the people of cave remained is mentioned in previous scriptures specially in Torah.. But I hope people of cave is mentioned somewhere in previous scriptures.. But QURAN only mentioned number of years they remained .. But story was familiar with everyone.. That's why people already were saying about their number like they were three or five etc.. But no one seems bothered a lot how many years they remained in cave but Allah reveals 300 plus 9 ..it's a test of faith.. Yes.. In the story more than their number and their years of staying in cave, there are so much to reflect but nothing is to be neglected from the story . Torah is full of numbers and if 309 is missing then we can deduce Allah didn't reveal number of years in Torah.. So Allah didn't reveal exact number of people in the cave in Torah as well so that's why speculation is around.. Yes.. Even in Quran Allah didn't reveal how many of them they were.. So it's mystry for sure other than those who indeed knew of it..

So my fellow believers.. It's not about numbers here it tests our faith with these numbers.. Are we ready to believe or say impossible or take a moderate view highly leaning to one side? Isn't 2914 manifest enough? "He remained with them 1000 years save 50 years "
What do you want from this verse ?
If one has doubt of 950 years of life span, then he would try to change the meaning of this verse? isn't there any other reason to change the meaning of the verse? Okay let's hope they chsnged it. But pls make sense... Where is logic?

Note Everyone.. Before addressing Nuh verses Allah said this in 2911

2911 "And Allah will surely make evident those who believe, and He will surely make evident the hypocrites."

Indeed there is message.. Cuz 2912-13 disbelievers wants believers to follow their path... Then all important 2914 anf such verses are hard to believe save by believers..
Why Allah need to expose hypocrites... Believers will instantly realize hypocrocy of a person.. Hypocrocy hardly dies ..it carries to the grave.
Believers know by the tone of their speach the hypocrites... That's quran..

kaltun

Peace jkhan

Yes.. Brother.. Let's consider only what is mentioned in Quran and Allah has not mentioned about his family's surviving years..

It's so cruel to live for so many years and witness the passing of all loved ones. Why has he been granted such a long life? What is the purpose behind it? He built his "Ark" while his family was alive, unlike the stories from the Torah and Bible where it's written that he built the Ark with the help of fallen angels.

As you mentioned, only Noah is mentioned with this "lifespan," not his people or family ( not his Qawmi, aal or Ahl). So, think about that.

Noah's son wanted fled to a mountain, but it doesn't specify which mountain, just any mountain. It doesn't matter if the mountain is large or small; he's simply fleeing to a mountain.

There isn't a single Arabic word for the Ark. The word "Al-fulk" in the Quran is plural (while "al-falak" is singular). So, what was Noah building?

Furthermore, there isn't a single proof that the Torah is original; its origin is a mystery. The Talmud states that Moses wrote it, but the Quran is clear about it... It was given to Musa , same as al-Injeel , it was injeel, then ask your self and be sincere ....

WHO WROTE the BIBLE(S) and ask also which bible and check which language is the orginal bible ..
did Isa spoke Greeks ?? lol .. greeks aka latin alfabets .. did you guys not think on this ?

didnt you guys see the similarity between the stories in torah/bible/Quran ? if the stories are the same what benefits gives the Quran comparing to other books ? the minor diffence between those books is the outcome? thats what is Allah trying to teach us ?

وَإِذَا تُتۡلَىٰ عَلَیۡهِمۡ ءَایَاتُنَا بَیِّنَـٰتࣲ قَالَ ٱلَّذِینَ لَا یَرۡجُونَ لِقَاۤءَنَا ٱئۡتِ بِقُرۡءَانٍ غَیۡرِ هَـٰذَاۤ أَوۡ بَدِّلۡهُۚ قُلۡ مَا یَكُونُ لِیۤ أَنۡ أُبَدِّلَهُۥ مِن تِلۡقَاۤىِٕ نَفۡسِیۤۖ إِنۡ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا یُوحَىٰۤ إِلَیَّۖ إِنِّیۤ أَخَافُ إِنۡ عَصَیۡتُ رَبِّی عَذَابَ یَوۡمٍ عَظِیمࣲ ۝١٥
And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Bring us a Qur'an other than this or change it." Say,
, "It is not for me to change it on my own accord. I only follow what is revealed to me. Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day."

they didnt like what the real message was of the Quran and wanted back to their man made books thats why they are nagging about it and asking to change to their books ... think en ponder on this

ٱلۡحَاۤقَّةُ ۝١

Quran 691

what is the (real) truth ...

The Quran stands apart from other books; it is 100% the words of Allah. No other book contains the direct words of Allah, neither the Torah, nor the Psalms, nor the Bibles.

The more I read and research the Quran, the clearer it becomes to me. I feel a growing strength in my faith, and my perspective on the world has significantly changed.

سلام عليكم

jkhan

Peace jkhan
It's so cruel to live for so many years and witness the passing of all loved ones. Why has he been granted such a long life? What is the purpose behind it? He built his "Ark" while his family was alive, unlike the stories from the Torah and Bible where it's written that he built the Ark with the help of fallen angels.