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How to Pray Tahajjud?

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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    This is a Quran based islam forum.

    Can you answer the following
    https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/problems-5-salat-Quran.html

    1. B, D.
      A more accurate translation of 1779 is shown below
      Establish the salat at the setting of the sun to the darkness of the night; and the reading (of) dawn; indeed, the reading (of) dawn is witnessed.
      And from the night so remain awake with it additionally for yourself, perhaps your Lord will raise you (to) a status praiseworthy.

    The "with it" (Arabic bi hi) refers to a preceding masculine noun, and thus can ONLY refer to "reading" (Arabic quran). Note that "salat" is a feminine noun. Thus, the idea of "the tahajjud prayer" is not possible unless one considers it as a reading (also see 7320).

    See bold above.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      Arneeb_Fatima
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      Please see this,
      وَمِنَ ٱلَّيْلِ فَتَهَجَّدْ بِهِۦ نَافِلَةًۭ لَّكَ عَسَىٰٓ أَن يَبْعَثَكَ رَبُّكَ مَقَامًۭا مَّحْمُودًۭا ٧٩
      And rise at ˹the last˺ part of the night, offering additional prayers, so your Lord may raise you to a station of praise.
      1.I found this translation on the Quran.com
      I think this is the good Translation.
      2.This is the best time for you to find a special place for more and more things to come soon.
      Second translation is more better than fisrt. Dawat e Islami

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      • WakasW Offline
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        Wakas
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        You "think" it is a good translation.

        So you are basing your understanding on

        1. a translation which think is good, but may or may not be accurate
        2. and not addressing what I brought up, i.e. a way in which to test your chosen translation
          ?

        Seems an unusual approach.

        Each to their own.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          Fusion
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          The Quran offers a holistic message that requires us to connect and reflect upon its verses in their entirety. To fully appreciate its guidance, we must approach it as a cohesive whole, where each verse can illuminate others, across different chapters. This interconnected reading allows us to grasp the depth and breadth of its teachings, encouraging a deeper understanding of its divine wisdom.
          Hence 1779 should also be understood in the light of the following verse
          1776
          They were about to intimidate you to drive you out of the land, but then they would not have survived after you had left˺ except for a little while.
          7320
          Surely your Lord knows that you ˹O Prophet˺ stand ˹in prayer˺ for nearly two-thirds of the night, or ˹sometimes˺ half of it, or a third, as do some of those with you. Allah ˹alone˺ keeps a ˹precise˺ measure of the day and night. He knows that you ˹believers˺ are unable to endure this, and has turned to you in mercy.1 So recite ˹in prayer˺ whatever you can from the Quran. He knows that some of you will be sick, some will be travelling throughout the land seeking Allah’s bounty, and some fighting in the cause of Allah. So recite whatever you can from it. And ˹continue to˺ perform ˹regular˺ prayers, pay alms-tax, and lend to Allah a good loan.2 Whatever good you send forth for yourselves, you will find it with Allah far better and more rewarding.3 And seek Allah’s forgiveness. Surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

          These verses from the Quran, specifically 1776 and 1779, were directly speaking to the context of the Prophet Muhammad’s era, a time marked by considerable adversity for him and his followers. They served as guidance and support for the Prophet and his community, navigating through the challenges of practicing and propagating their faith amidst opposition. Understanding the historical and situational background of these verses enriches our comprehension of their significance, revealing how they provided steadfastness and hope during a pivotal moment in the early Islamic community's development."

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            Arneeb_Fatima
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            You "think" it is a good translation.

            So you are basing your understanding on

            1. a translation which think is good, but may or may not be accurate
            2. and not addressing what I brought up, i.e. a way in which to test your chosen translation
              ?

            Bro Aslamoalaikum,
            I also read your provide content but I think my Teachers told me right about this topic. And, I also read and learn about Islam in the Islamic Institution.

            If you want to know that what is the name of my Institution then here it is, Idara Misbah-ul-Quran Pakistan.

            Seems an unusual approach.

            Each to their own.

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              Wakas
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              So you have taken your teachers as infallible?

              https//www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Authority

              You have gone from an unusual approach to a dangerous one.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                Emre_1974tr
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                So you have taken your teachers as infallible?

                https//www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Authority

                You have gone from an unusual approach to a dangerous one.

                And unfortunately people do this not only in the field of religion. Unfortunately, from medicine to science and all other fields, in every field, people accept what the so-called "experts" say as truth and submit to them. And in this way, those at the top of these boards direct societies as they wish and destroy them if they wish. If they want, they paganise them, if they want, they destroy them with vaccinations and similar practices.

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                  Arneeb_Fatima
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                  So you have taken your teachers as infallible?

                  https//www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Authority

                  You have gone from an unusual approach to a dangerous one.

                  NO, But I know I am correct about my Relegion.

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                  • WakasW Offline
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                    Wakas
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                    lol you just keep digging the hole deeper.

                    First, unusual approach.
                    Then takes scholars as infallible.
                    Then claims certainty (thus not need to check any counter evidence).

                    Quran, 2530
                    The Messenger will say, "My Lord, This Qur'an was abandoned by my people,"

                    2111
                    ...Say, "Present your proof if you are telling the truth."

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      Fusion
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                      In the cultural and academic background from which they hails, there's a strong tradition of engaging with the Quran under the mentorship of scholars or imams. This practice stems from a belief in the value of guided interpretation, rooted in centuries of scholarly discourse. Consequently, individual exploration of the Quran's translations and meanings without such guidance is often discouraged, if not outright prohibited. This approach is largely influenced by a commitment to taqleed, or following established scholarly interpretations, underlining a respect for the insights and understandings developed over generations. As a result, their perspectives are likely to reflect the teachings of their particular school of thought, emphasizing the importance of traditional learning paths over independent study of the Quran.

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                        Establish the salat at the setting of the sun to the darkness of the night; and the reading (of) dawn; indeed, the reading (of) dawn is witnessed.
                        And from the night so remain awake with it additionally for yourself, perhaps your Lord will raise you (to) a status praiseworthy.

                        The "with it" (Arabic bi hi) refers to a preceding masculine noun, and thus can ONLY refer to "reading" (Arabic quran). Note that "salat" is a feminine noun. Thus, the idea of "the tahajjud prayer" is not possible unless one considers it as a reading (also see 7320).

                        As-salaam.

                        Pardon me. I want to share with you, that as I read Ayat 78 I was under the impression it meant to read Qu'ran first thing in the morning, with the first light there is to read by. As in the scenario where one is awake at night, praying Tahajjud. Then at dawn, which would be the nearest practical opportunity to read Qu'ran, then they read Qu'ran.

                        So I read this as 'night-time related activities of the pious' which would include both tahajjud (prayers through the night) as well as a qu'ran reading at dawn. That is, two separate activities. This precludes your assertation that Tahajjud must be considered a 'reading' and is not a distinctly different activity from the reading. Emphasis on the word "AND" in 1778, it is not an "AS" or a "FOR" but a conjuction implying there are two things being prescribed tahajjud and the reading at dawn as separate and distinct things commanded at the same time because they are related to the night-owl schedule. What do you think?

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