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    4354 He thus convinced his people, and they obeyed him; they were a wicked people.

    It is also reported in some verses that in Hell the oppressed in the world curse their oppressors. In other words, there are more poor and despised people in Hell than rich people. Because they were bad people and they suffered in the world.

    497 As for those who wrong their own ‘self’ by not striving until the angels approach them, they are asked, “What kept you occupied?” They say, “We were weak and oppressed in the land.” The angels say, “Was not the earth of God spacious enough for you to migrate?” As for such, their habitation will be Hell, a miserable destination.

    1421 Andthey appeared before God, all of them. And the weak ones said to those who were arrogant "We were following you, so will you avail us anything from the retribution of God?" They said "If God had guided us, then we would have guided you. It makes no difference if we cry out or are patient, for we have no refuge."

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      Interesting statistical analysis is being conducted on the Quran, reminiscent of the Number 19 phenomenon. While such endeavors are intriguing, it's important to avoid making broad generalizations, as only God possesses complete knowledge.

      For instance, consider Verse 4354, which relates to the context of Moses and Pharaoh. Pharaoh deceived his people, preventing them from critical thinking and leading them blindly. However, only God truly comprehends the intentions within their hearts. The verse suggests that these individuals themselves chose to follow the wrong path. It's crucial to recognize that those inclined towards righteousness cannot be swayed by such deception, whether in Pharaoh's era or today.

      Similarly, it would have been beneficial to include the follow-up verse to 497 in your analysis. I trust that you are not among those who selectively extract Quranic verses to support a singular viewpoint.

      Verse498
      The exception is those men, women and children who were truly weak and unable to seek means of escape (hijra) and did not know where to go. For them there is hope of leniency from Allah who is forbearing and protective.

      As for 1421, the universal context of Quran is

      Quran 3883
      " said, 'Then be gone, for indeed, you are expelled. And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day of Recompense.' He said, 'My Lord, then reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected.' said, 'So indeed, you are of those reprieved until the Day of the time well-known.' said, 'By your might, I will surely mislead them all, except, among them, Your chosen servants.' said, 'The truth , and the truth I say - I will surely fill Hell with you and those of them that follow you all together.'

      Quran 1422
      "And Satan will say when the matter has been concluded, 'Indeed, Allah had promised you the promise of truth. And I promised you, but I betrayed you. But I had no authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. So do not blame me; but blame yourselves. I cannot be called to your aid, nor can you be called to my aid. Indeed, I deny your association of me before. Indeed, for the wrongdoers is a painful punishment.'"

      While I appreciate your engagement with the Quranic text, I wanted to gently highlight the importance of interpreting verses within their proper context and avoiding broad generalizations. It's crucial to recognize that the Quran contains complex teachings that require careful study and consideration.

      For example, when discussing the historical ties between Turks and Jews or drawing conclusions about the demographics of people in Hell, it's essential to approach these topics with humility and acknowledge that only God truly knows the hearts and deeds of individuals.

      The Quran provides guidance and wisdom, but it's not always straightforward to apply its teachings to every situation or draw definitive conclusions about specific groups of people. Each verse has its context and nuances that we must respect and consider.

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        The Qur'an says that rewards and punishments will begin to take place in this world

        -Who is more unjust than those who prevent the remembrance of the name of Allah in the mosques of Allah and seek to destroy them? They have no choice but to enter them with fear. For them is humiliation in this world and a great punishment in the Hereafter." (Al-Baqarah 114)

        -I will punish those who disbelieve with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers! (Surah Al-Imran, verse 56)

        -And Allah has given them the blessings of this world and the good reward of the Hereafter; for Allah loves those who do good deeds. (Surah Ali Imran, verse 14 (This verse refers to people who attain the life of paradise, beauty and blessings both in this world and in the Hereafter).

        • Guide us to the right path, the path of those whom you have blessed.(Fatiha 6-7)

        -And some of them say "Our Lord, give us the best in this world and the Hereafter, and protect us from the torment of the Fire". These receive their share of what they have earned." (Al-Baqarah 201-202) (This verse also states that those who desire good things both in this world and in the Hereafter are on the right path)

        -Satan calls you to evil and frightens you with poverty and commands you to be stingy. But Allah is the Giver of abundance, and He knows everything. Allah gives wealth and abundance to whom He wills. Surely such have attained a great good. Those who are wise will take an example from this (Al-Baqarah 26

        -Say, "Who can forbid what Allah has given to His servants as adornment and what He has given them as sustenance? "Say again, "These are for the believers in this world, and for them alone in the Hereafter". This is how We explain Our verses to those who understand." (Surat al-Araf, verse 32) (In this verse, it is said that the beauties in this world are actually prepared for the believers, but as it is known, unbelievers can also benefit from the blessings in this world, but in the Hereafter, only believers will benefit from them).

        -O you who believe! Those who associate partners with Allah are unclean people, so do not let them come near the Masjid al-Haram after this year, and if you are afraid of poverty, know that Allah will soon make you rich with His bounties.(Surat al-Tawbah verse 2

        -O Allah, Who has created for you whatever is in the earth.(Al-Baqarah 29)

        -O mankind! Eat lawfully and pleasantly from the sustenance of the earth (Al-Baqarah 16

        -Did not Allah find you an orphan and shelter you? Again, did He not find you astray and guide you to the right path? Did He not find you poor and make you rich? (Verses 6-7-8 of Surat al-Duha) (It should be noted that first the undesirable, bad situation is mentioned and then the desired good situations are mentioned. From orphanhood to shelter, from confusion to the right path, and finally from poverty to wealth).

        -Solomon prayed, "O my Lord, forgive me. Give me a kingdom that no one can reach after this. Verily, You are the bestower of all desires." (Surat al-Sad, verse 35) (It is also said in other verses that Prophet Solomon asked for the love of wealth for the remembrance of Allah and that he was given a kingdom that no one can reach).

        "Allah gives the example of a slave who is incapable of anything, who is the property of another, and one who spends out of the good provision We have given him secretly and openly. Do they ever become one?" (Nahl 75)

        Yes, here too, a poor and unfree person who is of no use to anyone is compared to a rich and free person who does good deeds and gives zakat, and wealth is favored.

        • Allah wishes you ease and not hardship (from verse 185 of al-Baqarah) (According to this and many other similar verses, what Allah wants to see in His servants is a life as free from hardship as possible, full of ease and beauty).

        One of Allah's methods of punishment on earth is to impose poverty and withhold blessings

        Surah Anam, Verse 146 We forbade the Jews all hoofed animals, and We forbade them the fat of cattle and sheep, except the fat on their backs, on their intestines, or on their tails attached to their bones. We did this as a punishment for their transgression. Verily, We are truthful in all things. (This verse seems to forbid things that are not normally forbidden as a punishment).

        • And a mark of humiliation, oppression and poverty was put upon them, and they were struck with a wrath from Allah. (From Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 61...) (Again, we see impoverishment, that is, deprivation of worldly blessings, as Allah's method of punishment in this world).

        Surah al-Nisa, Verse 160 Because of the Jews' injustice and their turning away from the way of Allah, We forbade them many of the good things of the world which were lawful for them. (Again we see the prohibition of the good things of the world as a result of sinfulness.)

        THE CAUSE OF THE WORLD'S TROUBLES IS THE WRONGS THAT PEOPLE DO

        -The reason for this is this Allah will not change a blessing once bestowed on a people unless they change the reason for it, and Allah is All-Hearing and All-Knowing. (Surah Al-Anfal, verse 53) (If calamities keep befalling a people or a tribe, something is wrong and they are being warned).

        On the other hand, those who do good begin to experience beauty in this world as well, meaning that they are often tested with beauty

        Surah Al-Anfal Verse 17 Then you did not kill them, but Allah killed them; and when you threw, you did not throw, but Allah did. And this was to give the believers a good test. Verily Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing!

        Surat al-Jinn, verse 16.-17 Indeed, if they had followed the way straight, We would certainly have provided them with abundant water. That We may test them in it. And whoever turns away from the remembrance of his Lord (the Qur'an), his Lord will put him into a torment that will increase.

        The Quran also commands us to be strong materially, technologically and militarily

        Surah Al-Anfal Verse 60 And you, prepare against them horses bred for war, of whatever strength you are able, so that you may frighten Allah's enemy and your enemy, and other enemies whom you do not know, but Allah knows. Whatever you spend in the way of Allah will be fully repaid to you and you will not suffer any loss. (This is possible with material power and wealth. Especially today, there is no way to fulfill this commandment without technological and material power.)

        Surat al-Anam Those who kill their children out of ignorance and thoughtlessness, and forbid what Allah has given them as sustenance, slandering Allah, have certainly lost. Surely they have gone astray and have never been successful. (Seeing the beauties of the world as sinful and turning away from them is shown as deviation)

        LET'S CONTINUE TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF VERSES THAT EMPHASIZE THE INTEGRITY OF THE WORLD AND THE HEREAFTER

        Surat al-Tawbah Verse 74 They swear by Allah that they did not say it. Indeed, they said that word of disbelief, and after they became Muslims, they again disbelieved and plotted the murder which they failed to accomplish. And there was no reason for them to seek revenge except that Allah had enriched them with His Messenger out of His Divine bounty. If they repent, it will be better for them, but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have neither a protector nor a helper in the earth.

        Surah Hasr Verse 3 Had Allah not written to them exile, He would surely have tormented them in this world. And in the Hereafter there is for them the torment of the Fire.

        Verse 152 Surat al-Araf Verily, those who take that calf as a god will receive wrath from their Lord and humiliation in the life of this world. Thus do We punish the slanderers.

        Surat al-Fussilet, Verse 16 So We sent upon them on inauspicious days the wind of shock (a freezing or noisy whirlwind) to make them taste the torment of humiliation in the life of this world. Surely the torment of the Hereafter is more painful, and they will not be saved.

        Surah Zumar, Verse 26 And Allah made them taste humiliation in the life of this world. Surely the torment of the Hereafter is greater. If only they knew.

        The sinners begin to taste what they have done in this world and begin to be punished, and the tribulations of this world also serve as a warning

        Surat al-Sajdah verse 21 Verily, We shall make them taste of the nearer torment (the torment of this world) before the greatest torment, lest they turn back.

        Humans are responsible for hardship. Allah never oppresses His servants, people only oppress themselves

        -Whatever comes to you of goodness and beauty is from Allah. Whatever evil and ugliness reaches you is from your own soul. We have sent you as a messenger to mankind, and Allah is sufficient as a witness.(Surah Al-Nisa, verse 79)

        Surat al-Rum, Verse 36 And when We bestow upon mankind a mercy, they trust in it; and when evil befalls them because of what their hands have done, they despair.

        Surat al-Rum, Verse 41 Mischief has come upon the land and the sea because of what their own hands have earned, that Allah may make them taste some of what they used to do, so that they may desist.

        Sura Sura 30 Whatever misfortune has befallen you is because of what your own hands have earned. Yet He forgives many of them.


        Those who are on the right path begin to be rewarded and tested with beauty in this world

        Surat al-Ankabut, verse 27 And We bestowed on him Isaac and Ya'qub, and We bestowed the prophethood and the Book on his offspring, and We gave him his reward in this world; surely he is of the righteous in the Hereafter.

        Surat al-Mumin, Verse 51 Surely We will help Our messengers and those who believe, both in the life of this world and on the Day when the witnesses will stand.

        Surat al-Zumar, Verse 10 Say by Me "O My servants who believe, take refuge with your Lord in piety. For those who do good in this world there is good. Allah's land is wide. Only those who are patient will be rewarded without calculation."

        Surah Nahl, Verse 122 And We have given him good in this world, and surely he will be among the good in the Hereafter.

        Verse 41 Surah Al-Nahl And as for those who emigrated for the sake of Allah after they were oppressed, We shall certainly establish them well in this world, and the reward of the Hereafter is greater, if they only knew.

        Surah Ibrahim, Verse 27 Allah makes those who believe firm with an unchanging promise in this world and in the Hereafter. And He confounds those who do wrong, and Allah does whatever He wills.

        Verse 64 of Surah Yunus There is good news for them in the life of this world and in the Hereafter. There is no change in the promises of Allah; this is the great salvation!

        Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 265 And the case of those who spend their wealth to seek Allah's pleasure and to make themselves or some of them share in the Way of Allah is like the case of a garden on a hill on which a strong shower falls and increases its fruits twice as much. If a shower does not fall on it, a dew will surely fall on it. Allah is watching over what you do.


        Greetings and love.

        (My Turkish article translated with machine)

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          4354 He thus convinced his people, and they obeyed him; they were a wicked people.

          It is also reported in some verses that in Hell the oppressed in the world curse their oppressors. In other words, there are more poor and despised people in Hell than rich people. Because they were bad people and they suffered in the world.

          497 As for those who wrong their own ‘self’ by not striving until the angels approach them, they are asked, “What kept you occupied?” They say, “We were weak and oppressed in the land.” The angels say, “Was not the earth of God spacious enough for you to migrate?” As for such, their habitation will be Hell, a miserable destination.

          1421 Andthey appeared before God, all of them. And the weak ones said to those who were arrogant "We were following you, so will you avail us anything from the retribution of God?" They said "If God had guided us, then we would have guided you. It makes no difference if we cry out or are patient, for we have no refuge."

          Peace,

          Yes, brother there are more poor people than rich people. So it stands to reason that there will be more poor people in hell than rich people. In 2018, the 26 richest people in the world held as much wealth as half of the global population (the 3.8 billion poorest people).

          God bless you

          peace

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            Quran reminds us that it is ultimately God who guides whom He wills (Quran 315), irrespective of wealth or social standing. Thus, the emphasis is not on statistics but on individual actions and intentions, as guided by God's will.
            The Quran emphasizes the importance of compassion, generosity, and social responsibility towards the less fortunate, regardless of their wealth or status. Verses such as Quran 1074-7 caution against the heedlessness of prayers and withholding assistance, while Quran 7024-25 highlights the obligation to provide for those in need.

            Indeed, Both of you have a point about the distribution of wealth and its potential implications in the afterlife is thought-provoking. However, it's essential to remember that divine justice transcends human statistical concepts. While wealth inequality is a significant concern, divine judgment is not solely based on socio-economic status as I mentioned above.

            if its about statistical data, one can also find many verses from Quran where the onus is so strong on wealthy people that we hardly see em entering into Paradise as well. So lets not go into such statistical analysis in my view.

            "And as for those who are given plenty, their wealth does not make them righteous before their Lord, though they may strongly desire it. But those who give in charity, both male and female, and lend to Allah a good loan, will be multiplied for them, and they will have an honorable reward." (Quran 315)

            Hence if we follow such logic, poor and rich both will be in hell. Rich does not necessarily mean 26 rich people as quoted.

            For example
            And put forward to them the example of two men We appointed for one of them two gardens of grapevines, and We bordered them with palm trees and placed between them crops. Each of the two gardens produced its fruit and did not fall short thereof in anything. And We caused to gush forth within them a river. And he had fruit, so he said to his companion while he was conversing with him, 'I am greater than you in wealth and mightier in men.'" (Quran 1832-34) ... and rest you know the outcome.

            In essence, there are several verses that caution against the arrogance or misuse of wealth and power. While they may not explicitly condemn all wealthy individuals, they emphasize the responsibility that comes with wealth and the dangers of arrogance and neglecting the needy.

            In short, I do not think we should be encouraging such subjects or about every one is a Turk for that matter. We should focus on the soul of this website which is to examine for themselves the system of Submission/Islam which is based on God Alone.

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              I think Its about sheep mentality, some never has their ability to think right but can only follow, they attracted by the words and attires of some powerful people,most are like that and these people are poor, they cheat themselves, they dont put effort or migrate out to better amenities, instead they fall for the frauds of the cunning ones, the powerfull ones can be of any form, those who force people, some sitting on pedestals and preach, those politicians, those rich capitalistic wealthy leaders etc.

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                The Qur'an says that rewards and punishments will begin to take place in this world

                -Who is more unjust than those who prevent the remembrance of the name of Allah in the mosques of Allah and seek to destroy them? They have no choice but to enter them with fear. For them is humiliation in this world and a great punishment in the Hereafter." (Al-Baqarah 114)

                -I will punish those who disbelieve with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers! (Surah Al-Imran, verse 56)

                -And Allah has given them the blessings of this world and the good reward of the Hereafter; for Allah loves those who do good deeds. (Surah Ali Imran, verse 14 (This verse refers to people who attain the life of paradise, beauty and blessings both in this world and in the Hereafter).

                • Guide us to the right path, the path of those whom you have blessed.(Fatiha 6-7)

                -And some of them say "Our Lord, give us the best in this world and the Hereafter, and protect us from the torment of the Fire". These receive their share of what they have earned." (Al-Baqarah 201-202) (This verse also states that those who desire good things both in this world and in the Hereafter are on the right path)

                -Satan calls you to evil and frightens you with poverty and commands you to be stingy. But Allah is the Giver of abundance, and He knows everything. Allah gives wealth and abundance to whom He wills. Surely such have attained a great good. Those who are wise will take an example from this (Al-Baqarah 26

                -Say, "Who can forbid what Allah has given to His servants as adornment and what He has given them as sustenance? "Say again, "These are for the believers in this world, and for them alone in the Hereafter". This is how We explain Our verses to those who understand." (Surat al-Araf, verse 32) (In this verse, it is said that the beauties in this world are actually prepared for the believers, but as it is known, unbelievers can also benefit from the blessings in this world, but in the Hereafter, only believers will benefit from them).

                -O you who believe! Those who associate partners with Allah are unclean people, so do not let them come near the Masjid al-Haram after this year, and if you are afraid of poverty, know that Allah will soon make you rich with His bounties.(Surat al-Tawbah verse 2

                -O Allah, Who has created for you whatever is in the earth.(Al-Baqarah 29)

                -O mankind! Eat lawfully and pleasantly from the sustenance of the earth (Al-Baqarah 16

                -Did not Allah find you an orphan and shelter you? Again, did He not find you astray and guide you to the right path? Did He not find you poor and make you rich? (Verses 6-7-8 of Surat al-Duha) (It should be noted that first the undesirable, bad situation is mentioned and then the desired good situations are mentioned. From orphanhood to shelter, from confusion to the right path, and finally from poverty to wealth).

                -Solomon prayed, "O my Lord, forgive me. Give me a kingdom that no one can reach after this. Verily, You are the bestower of all desires." (Surat al-Sad, verse 35) (It is also said in other verses that Prophet Solomon asked for the love of wealth for the remembrance of Allah and that he was given a kingdom that no one can reach).

                "Allah gives the example of a slave who is incapable of anything, who is the property of another, and one who spends out of the good provision We have given him secretly and openly. Do they ever become one?" (Nahl 75)

                Yes, here too, a poor and unfree person who is of no use to anyone is compared to a rich and free person who does good deeds and gives zakat, and wealth is favored.

                • Allah wishes you ease and not hardship (from verse 185 of al-Baqarah) (According to this and many other similar verses, what Allah wants to see in His servants is a life as free from hardship as possible, full of ease and beauty).

                One of Allah's methods of punishment on earth is to impose poverty and withhold blessings

                Surah Anam, Verse 146 We forbade the Jews all hoofed animals, and We forbade them the fat of cattle and sheep, except the fat on their backs, on their intestines, or on their tails attached to their bones. We did this as a punishment for their transgression. Verily, We are truthful in all things. (This verse seems to forbid things that are not normally forbidden as a punishment).

                • And a mark of humiliation, oppression and poverty was put upon them, and they were struck with a wrath from Allah. (From Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 61...) (Again, we see impoverishment, that is, deprivation of worldly blessings, as Allah's method of punishment in this world).

                Surah al-Nisa, Verse 160 Because of the Jews' injustice and their turning away from the way of Allah, We forbade them many of the good things of the world which were lawful for them. (Again we see the prohibition of the good things of the world as a result of sinfulness.)

                THE CAUSE OF THE WORLD'S TROUBLES IS THE WRONGS THAT PEOPLE DO

                -The reason for this is this Allah will not change a blessing once bestowed on a people unless they change the reason for it, and Allah is All-Hearing and All-Knowing. (Surah Al-Anfal, verse 53) (If calamities keep befalling a people or a tribe, something is wrong and they are being warned).

                On the other hand, those who do good begin to experience beauty in this world as well, meaning that they are often tested with beauty

                Surah Al-Anfal Verse 17 Then you did not kill them, but Allah killed them; and when you threw, you did not throw, but Allah did. And this was to give the believers a good test. Verily Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing!

                Surat al-Jinn, verse 16.-17 Indeed, if they had followed the way straight, We would certainly have provided them with abundant water. That We may test them in it. And whoever turns away from the remembrance of his Lord (the Qur'an), his Lord will put him into a torment that will increase.

                The Quran also commands us to be strong materially, technologically and militarily

                Surah Al-Anfal Verse 60 And you, prepare against them horses bred for war, of whatever strength you are able, so that you may frighten Allah's enemy and your enemy, and other enemies whom you do not know, but Allah knows. Whatever you spend in the way of Allah will be fully repaid to you and you will not suffer any loss. (This is possible with material power and wealth. Especially today, there is no way to fulfill this commandment without technological and material power.)

                Surat al-Anam Those who kill their children out of ignorance and thoughtlessness, and forbid what Allah has given them as sustenance, slandering Allah, have certainly lost. Surely they have gone astray and have never been successful. (Seeing the beauties of the world as sinful and turning away from them is shown as deviation)

                LET'S CONTINUE TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF VERSES THAT EMPHASIZE THE INTEGRITY OF THE WORLD AND THE HEREAFTER

                Surat al-Tawbah Verse 74 They swear by Allah that they did not say it. Indeed, they said that word of disbelief, and after they became Muslims, they again disbelieved and plotted the murder which they failed to accomplish. And there was no reason for them to seek revenge except that Allah had enriched them with His Messenger out of His Divine bounty. If they repent, it will be better for them, but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have neither a protector nor a helper in the earth.

                Surah Hasr Verse 3 Had Allah not written to them exile, He would surely have tormented them in this world. And in the Hereafter there is for them the torment of the Fire.

                Verse 152 Surat al-Araf Verily, those who take that calf as a god will receive wrath from their Lord and humiliation in the life of this world. Thus do We punish the slanderers.

                Surat al-Fussilet, Verse 16 So We sent upon them on inauspicious days the wind of shock (a freezing or noisy whirlwind) to make them taste the torment of humiliation in the life of this world. Surely the torment of the Hereafter is more painful, and they will not be saved.

                Surah Zumar, Verse 26 And Allah made them taste humiliation in the life of this world. Surely the torment of the Hereafter is greater. If only they knew.

                The sinners begin to taste what they have done in this world and begin to be punished, and the tribulations of this world also serve as a warning

                Surat al-Sajdah verse 21 Verily, We shall make them taste of the nearer torment (the torment of this world) before the greatest torment, lest they turn back.

                Humans are responsible for hardship. Allah never oppresses His servants, people only oppress themselves

                -Whatever comes to you of goodness and beauty is from Allah. Whatever evil and ugliness reaches you is from your own soul. We have sent you as a messenger to mankind, and Allah is sufficient as a witness.(Surah Al-Nisa, verse 79)

                Surat al-Rum, Verse 36 And when We bestow upon mankind a mercy, they trust in it; and when evil befalls them because of what their hands have done, they despair.

                Surat al-Rum, Verse 41 Mischief has come upon the land and the sea because of what their own hands have earned, that Allah may make them taste some of what they used to do, so that they may desist.

                Sura Sura 30 Whatever misfortune has befallen you is because of what your own hands have earned. Yet He forgives many of them.


                Those who are on the right path begin to be rewarded and tested with beauty in this world

                Surat al-Ankabut, verse 27 And We bestowed on him Isaac and Ya'qub, and We bestowed the prophethood and the Book on his offspring, and We gave him his reward in this world; surely he is of the righteous in the Hereafter.

                Surat al-Mumin, Verse 51 Surely We will help Our messengers and those who believe, both in the life of this world and on the Day when the witnesses will stand.

                Surat al-Zumar, Verse 10 Say by Me "O My servants who believe, take refuge with your Lord in piety. For those who do good in this world there is good. Allah's land is wide. Only those who are patient will be rewarded without calculation."

                Surah Nahl, Verse 122 And We have given him good in this world, and surely he will be among the good in the Hereafter.

                Verse 41 Surah Al-Nahl And as for those who emigrated for the sake of Allah after they were oppressed, We shall certainly establish them well in this world, and the reward of the Hereafter is greater, if they only knew.

                Surah Ibrahim, Verse 27 Allah makes those who believe firm with an unchanging promise in this world and in the Hereafter. And He confounds those who do wrong, and Allah does whatever He wills.

                Verse 64 of Surah Yunus There is good news for them in the life of this world and in the Hereafter. There is no change in the promises of Allah; this is the great salvation!

                Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 265 And the case of those who spend their wealth to seek Allah's pleasure and to make themselves or some of them share in the Way of Allah is like the case of a garden on a hill on which a strong shower falls and increases its fruits twice as much. If a shower does not fall on it, a dew will surely fall on it. Allah is watching over what you do.


                Greetings and love.

                (My Turkish article translated with machine)

                They are not only poor in money, but also in health, happiness, love, worship, closeness to God.

                They are being crushed in misery in the world too.

                On the other hand, a good person like paradisly person, even if he experiences suffering in this world, is surely rich in areas such as closeness to God and inner peace. Again, that person's total pleasure and happiness in this world is more than the bad people in the world.

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                  22.31. I have found that the best way to understand a concept and character in pure obvious manner void of illusions and delusions is forward time travel into Hereafter and to peep into the Hell-Prison and hear the ongoing skirmishes and heated exchange of mutual allegations and explanations between the Chieftains and their followers. Let us go there and find the chieftains of Mecca of the days of revelation of Grand Qur'an who are referred in 26 as Deniers of Allah the Exalted about whom news was given they will not believe in Messenger and Qur'an. They did say to people about their determined decision and resolve

                  وَ قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لَن نُّؤْمِنَ بِـهَٟذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانِ وَ لَا بِٱلَّذِى بَيْـنَ يَدَيْهِۗ

                  Know it; those (Elite of Polytheists) who refused to accept you as the Messenger said to their people—"We will never believe in this Qur’ān and nor in that one which is stated as Revelation in front of it (previously the guidance, Injeel)."

                  22.32. The elevated Messenger and through him we are taken into the Hereafter to watch this scene and hear conversation between the chieftains and their under influence subject tribesmen of Arabian Peninsula

                  وَلَوْ تَرَىٰٓ إِذِ ٱلظَّٟلِمُونَ مَوْقُوفُونَ عِندَ رَبِّـهِـمْ يَرْجِعُ بَعْضُهُـمْ إِلَـىٰ بَعْضٛ ٱلْقَوْلَ
                  يَقُولُ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱسْتُضْعِفُوا۟ لِلَّذِينَ ٱسْتَكْـبَـرُوا۟ لَوْلَآ أَنتُـمْ لَـكُنَّا مُؤْمِنِيـنَ ٣١

                  And would that if you the Messenger see when the wrong doers/evil mongers will be made to stop for their Sustainer Lord — Some of them will throw back the word to some —
                  Saying those who were made the weak/ruled segments of society to those who demonstrated arrogance having made themselves obsessed with pride of grandeur, "Alas, had you not been there we would have certainly been believers of the Messenger and Qur’ān."

                  22.33. The subjects (ٱلضُّعَفَٟٓؤُا۟) have pointedly charged and held responsible their chieftains, rulers (مُّسْتَكْبِـرُونَ) for their failure to believe in the Messenger Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam and Qur’ān which they would have certainly believed were they not their leaders and persuaders. Let us more attentively hear the reply and argument of the Chieftains which might enlighten us as to why people easily become prey and victim of satanic minded psychological manipulators and intelligentsia

                  قَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱسْتَكْـبَـرُوا۟ لِلَّذِينَ ٱسْتُضْعِفُوٓا۟ أَنَـحْنُ صَدَدنَٟكُـمْ عَنِ ٱلْـهُدَىٰ بَعْدَ إِذْ جَآءَكُمۖ
                  بَلْ كُنتُـم مُّجْرِمِيـنَ ٣٢

                  Those who demonstrated arrogance having made themselves obsessed with pride of grandeur replied to those who were made the weak/ruled segments of society, "Did we avert you from the Guidance after that it had reached you people?

                  No, the fact is that you people were yourself the criminals (Non Muslims)".

                  22.34. They refuted the charge of their subjects and disclosed the real cause of their not becoming believers despite having received the Qur’ān which they referred by its epithet ٱلْـهُدَىٰ The Guide-Guidance. Their mentioning of Qur’ān by ٱلْـهُدَىٰ brings us back to their worldly life when they were holding a private meeting with the exalted Messenger in Mecca and were expressing fear and political concern that by believing "مُحَمَّدٚ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِ" that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah the Exalted they would politically and socially become downgraded.

                  وَقَالُوٓا۟ إِن نَّتَّبِــعِ ٱلْـهُدَىٰ مَعَكَ نُتَخَطَّفْ مِنْ أَرْضِنَآۚ

                  And they polytheist elite of Mecca said, "If we pursue the Guidance along with you it would be rendering ourselves downgraded, deprived of authority and social position in our own City".

                  22.35. Negating/rebuking the charge of having distracted them away from the Guidance they declared they were themselves مُّجْرِمِيـنَ criminals. It is disclosure that they could not become the believers of the elevated Messenger and Qur’ān because they were already living a life of defiance and were Non-Muslims meaning thereby they were already away from belief in Allah the Exalted and Hereafter, or had pushed it aside concealed in dark areas of their brain. It reveals they were clear in perceptions that the Messenger and Divine guidance becomes irrelevant for a person who believes not in Allah the Exalted, Resurrection and Afterlife in the Hereafter, and prefers to remain entangled to worldly interests and considerations enslaving himself to desires and obsessions. "The Criminals-ٱلْمُجْرِمِيـنَ" is the opposite of ٱلْمُسْلِمِيـنَ The Muslims.

                  إِنَّ لِّلْمُتَّقِيـنَ عِنْدَ رَبِّـهِـمْ جَنَّٟتِ ٱلنَّعِيـمِ٣٤
                  أَفَنَجْعَلُ ٱلْمُسْلِمِيـنَ كَٱلْمُجْرِمِيـنَ٣٥

                  Certainly the lush green Gardens/Paradise of Delight is exclusively for those who sincerely endeavour to attain salvation as award from their Sustainer Lord.

                  Would then Our Majesty declare and treat the Muslims submitters that follow the Code of conduct Islam equally like those who are the Criminals?

                  22.36. The subjects refuted the statement of their chieftains, disclosing it were they persistently making deceptive planning during night and day to persuade and direct them for disbelieving in Allah the Exalted, otherwise declare other gods as equate/complementary/associate with Him/Allah the Exalted.

                  وَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱسْتُضْعِفُوا۟ لِلَّذِينَ ٱسْتَكْـبَـرُوا۟
                  بَلْ مَكْرُ ٱلَّيلِ وَٱلنَّـهَارِ إِذْ تَأْمُـرُونَنَآ أَن نَّكْفُرَ بِٱللَّهِ وَنَجْعَلَ لَهُۥٓ أَندَادٙاۚ

                  And said those who were made the weak/ruled segments of society to those who demonstrated arrogance obsessed with pride of grandeur —

                  "No the fact is that it were your deceptions planned at night and day when you kept directing us disbelieving in Allah, or otherwise we would declare some other gods as equate/complementary for Him/Allah the Exalted."

                  22.37. Thus both fleshed out each others true character. It made explicit that the leaders who had created man made gods did not in fact believe in the existence of Allah the Exalted. Their obsession of grandeur and superiority over common people is so deeply embedded in their psyche that they tried to conceal their regret and shame upon having seen the imminent infliction of punishment about which they kept boasting they were immune from facing it (مَا نَحْنُ بِمُعَذَّبِيـنَ).

                  وَأَسَرُّوا۟ ٱلنَّدَامَةَ لَمَّا رَأَوُا۟ ٱلْعَذَابَ

                  And they tried to conceal the regret from those upon whom they had ruled in worldly life when they saw the punishment.

                  22.38. The adamant feature and stubbornness is emphasised by repeating that it was declared as shackles/collar in their necks

                  وَجَعَلْنَا ٱلۡأَغْلَٟلَ فِـىٓ أَعْنَاقِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَـرُوا۟ۚ
                  هَلْ يُجْـزَوْنَ إِلَّا مَا كَانُوا۟ يَعْمَلُونَ٣٣

                  Realize it; Our Majesty has rendered their arrogance as shackles in the necks of those who have denied believing in the presence of Allah the Exalted and the Messenger.

                  Assess and confirm; are they getting recompensed except for what they used to do? .

                  22.39. Two main contrary characters of humanity are juxtaposed by reference to intellectual consciousness and ideological belief and disbelief in the existence of their Creator, their Sustainer Allah the Exalted. The disbelief in the presence of the Creator Allah the Exalted had emerged in the hearts of certain aristocrats not by reason of some logic and intellectual reasoning but it was the narcissistic personality disorder puffed with delusion of grandeur, affluence, authority, dominance and obsession to retain it unfailingly which forced or deceived them to conceal (كَافِرٌۭ) the idea of presence of External God, Allah the Exalted. Had they really logically reached within to the conclusion perceiving non-existence or absence of Allah the Exalted they would not have conceived the idea of creating hand made gods assigning them various hypothetical names one after another for their people who were believing in Allah the Exalted. About such adamant people of his nation the exalted Messenger was informed in advance that they will not believe in him and the Divine Book he is relaying. further consoled by questioning and informing facts about them

                  أَرَءَيْتَ مَنِ ٱتَّخَذَ إِلَٟهَهُۥ هَوَىٰهُ أَفَأَنتَ تَكُونُ عَلَيْهِ وَكِيلًا٤٣
                  أَمْ تَحْسَبُ أَنَّ أَكْثَرَهُـمْ يَسْمَعُونَ أَوْ يَعْقِلُونَۚ
                  إِنْ هُـمْ إِلَّا كَٱلْأَنْعَٟمِۖ بَلْ هُـمْ أَضَلُّ سَبِيلًا٤٤

                  Have you the Messenger noticed the person who has purposely adopted his self-indulgences—desire - vested interest - passion - hypothetical conjectures as his iela'aha god (focus of attention and reverence)? Thereby, how could you the Messenger be an advocate - pleader upon him?

                  Or do you the Messenger presumably consider that most of them listen or apply intellect to differentiate?

                  They are but like the herbivore mammals. No, that analogy does not completely portray them; the fact is they are more unmindful and neglectful about finding course-way than the mammals.

                  22.40. The combination of negation and exception particle renders the statement as concrete fact. It is rhetorical device of downgrading a character. This downgrading by exemplification with cattle is also rectified by declaring them more lost in finding the way to destination, back home, the Paradise, than cattle that somehow succeed in finding way back to home.

                  وَ مَثَلُ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ كَمَثَلِ ٱلَّذِى يَنْعِقُ بِمَا لَا يَسْمَعُ إِلَّا دُعَآءًۭ وَ نِدَآءًۭۚ
                  صُـمٌّۢ بُكْـمٌ عُمْىٌۭ فَهُـمْ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ١٧١

                  And the instance of those people who have denied accepting Qur’ān — Calling them is like he who shepherds a herd by that calls which the herd listens nothing meaningful except calls and whoops (but still finds way back to home).

                  They people are deaf dumb, blind — Thereby, they do not reflect-recognize-differentiate.

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