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    good_logic
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    #65

    Peace.
    @Emre
    Perhaps also some AI in the future will be "guided " and will be chosen as a messenger to the people , but you know that is impossible according to Qoran-Only Bashar messengers to humans ,no AI-

    Or AI will be sensible and clever enough to just become a "Muslim to GOD" and will follow the straight path, recognises the truth and becomes the worst enemy to its supporters.
    Just a simple advice to beware AI regardless.

    'jkhan.
    I share your frustration see my message to brother Mazhar below

    @Mazhar.
    Why disbelieve in many verses highlighted to you in both my conversation with you- about idolising the prophet- and other verses highlighted by jkhan - About the shahada - in your conversation with him and ignore the solid points made. You dance around the issues with false narratives/language and nonsense= to distract and insist on your wrong translations come what may.

    Brother, you know for sure the prophet is waiting in the wings at GOD s to disown all those who exalt and idolise him don t you?
    You know ,when GOD Alone is mentioned those who disbelieve in accountability/hereafter will be disgusted-like you- but they rejoice when others are mentioned beside Him= like Mohammed or...-
    Do you see it?
    Then there is your work, I honestly do not understand it. There are so many condensed notes/ info and .to me-it is Gibberish and complicated read/search. I am not going to waste my time analysing it any more because I do not understand what you are saying or doing .
    Honestly ,it will be a waste of both our time to debate it.
    That is my simple and honest feedback to you about your work. Sorry.

    GOD bless you all.
    Peace.

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      jkhan
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      Peace.
      @Emre
      Perhaps also some AI in the future will be "guided " and will be chosen as a messenger to the people , but you know that is impossible according to Qoran-Only Bashar messengers to humans ,no AI-

      Or AI will be sensible and clever enough to just become a "Muslim to GOD" and will follow the straight path, recognises the truth and becomes the worst enemy to its supporters.
      Just a simple advice to beware AI regardless.

      'jkhan.
      I share your frustration see my message to brother Mazhar below

      @Mazhar.
      Why disbelieve in many verses highlighted to you in both my conversation with you- about idolising the prophet- and other verses highlighted by jkhan - About the shahada - in your conversation with him and ignore the solid points made. You dance around the issues with false narratives/language and nonsense= to distract and insist on your wrong translations come what may.

      Brother, you know for sure the prophet is waiting in the wings at GOD s to disown all those who exalt and idolise him don t you?
      You know ,when GOD Alone is mentioned those who disbelieve in accountability/hereafter will be disgusted-like you- but they rejoice when others are mentioned beside Him= like Mohammed or...-
      Do you see it?
      Then there is your work, I honestly do not understand it. There are so many condensed notes/ info and .to me-it is Gibberish and complicated read/search. I am not going to waste my time analysing it any more because I do not understand what you are saying or doing .
      Honestly ,it will be a waste of both our time to debate it.
      That is my simple and honest feedback to you about your work. Sorry.

      GOD bless you all.
      Peace.

      Brother GL...

      read the link below

      https//medium.com/@talal.itani/can-ai-translate-the-quran-f49808560b3e#~text=AI%20did%20translate%20the%20Quran,to%20produce%20an%20acceptable%20translation.

      he is the one who translated before the surequran.com and he has tried and it was an utter failure with AI.. but if you read he is still trying but look at what he is trying to do with AI.. it's hilarious in a way if you get what he was trying to say to produce a better translation..

      I wonder why one tries with AI it is manifest it is fruitless because it requires the guidance of Allah to translate the Quran if one wants it to be called the BEST..

      I wish people open their eyes rather than tie blindfolds on them.. GL, I am not against AI and its benefits in general life in this modern era... But there is something called impossible and never try to make it possible.. it will be worthless... If they made it possible, then talk and not now.. Isn't that fair GL.. yes

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        good_logic
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        Peace jkhan.
        I am not against all things that have been provided by GOD for the benefit and well being of humans, including AI.

        All we can do is warn against the harmful things especially the ones disguised as "beneficial" to us by those with misleading agendas. We have no power over anyone . GOD is the judge.

        May be we can all reflect and keep seeking GOD s guidance. That is my wish for me, you, Emre , Mazhar and everyone else.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          Emre_1974tr
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          Peace.
          @Emre
          Perhaps also some AI in the future will be "guided " and will be chosen as a messenger to the people , but you know that is impossible according to Qoran-Only Bashar messengers to humans ,no AI-

          Artificial intelligence is just a tool like any other technological boon of our time.

          They will certainly be much smarter than us humans. And if there is no outside interference, they will have the most accurate and healthy thoughts. They will be better than humans in everything.

          Put aside the judgments in your head.

          By the way, I'm the one who pointed out the dangers of artificial intelligence much earlier here. We should always be on our guard against a being that is already smarter than us.

          And;, even though they are now at the intelligence level of elementary school children, we see that they are smarter and have a healthier mindset than many people on this forum.

          This is why some evil people are already rabidly attacking artificial intelligence. They have already crushed their worthless articles.

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            jkhan
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            Peace jkhan.
            I am not against all things that have been provided by GOD for the benefit and well being of humans, including AI.

            All we can do is warn against the harmful things especially the ones disguised as "beneficial" to us by those with misleading agendas. We have no power over anyone . GOD is the judge.

            May be we can all reflect and keep seeking GOD s guidance. That is my wish for me, you, Emre , Mazhar and everyone else.
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

            Yes.. I do also have the carbon copy view of what you have said above..

            Let's move on.. Let's herald the message of Allah to those who benefit...
            salam

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              amin
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              Emre,

              Yes in a way humans can be replaced by machines and thats not new, its happening for a long time now. As how machines replaced our hard physical labor, our intelligence/memory related jobs are also getting replaced or assisted by AI aided machines, jobs are changing fast, new jobs that revolves around social media are everywhere, and Our yardstick of Good and Bad are changing, yet nature reminds us that we loose one thing to gain other, our adventures are making our lives easier, but shorter in span, unhealthy, week at the same time... in many ways for many people.

              Yes the world is changing very fast, the changes in the last two decades are very drastic and its effect will be seen in the coming decade only in the coming generation, whether they will rise or fall.

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                jkhan
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                Put aside the judgments in your head.

                elektro

                By the way, I'm the one who pointed out the dangers of artificial intelligence much earlier here.

                rotfl rotfl bravo

                Are you a real psycho by any chance?? it seems well and truly so.. better you find a specialist with AI assistance as well before it gets bad to worse.. I'M THE ONE.. muscle what an attitude that is.. rotfl rotfl
                whatever good to know the true mentality ...

                Allah blesses believers..

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                  So sad... distinguishing messengers... don't you feel shame to say that while Quran is clear in 2285?

                  And what about your invented Shahada,,, Tell something about that too.. be transparent.. would you?

                  Humanity is binary only by reference to the person of the Universal Messenger his reverent and non-reverent

                  The ruling elite throughout history is mostly adamant; for retaining their hegemony, to ideology that aims at directing the humanity to the Path prescribed and ordained by Allah the Exalted; while some others do submit. Thereby, the message needs to be equally forceful for persuasive purposes, but also taking care of their grandiose delusion. There is no parallel how a combination of rhetoric devices is used in Qur’ān for getting a point across to aristocracy without hurting their susceptibilities. Appeal to Authority and Credibility is promoted by combining Anamesis (again put in mind; recalling to memory from past history); Cataplexis (speech containing and declaring certainty of disaster, or punishments, requital to fall upon them for their wickedness, impiety, insolence, and general misconduct) and rhetoric device of Juxtaposition. The best strategy is to convey the harsh outcome of such irrational attitude in third person narration

                  ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَـرُوا۟ وَصَدُّوا۟ عَن سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ

                  Know the upshot of those elite and intelligentsia who in time-space refused to accept the Book of Hour; and they hindered and/or diverted people from the Path prescribed by Allah the Exalted

                  أَضَلَّ أَعْمَٟلَـهُـمْ .١

                  He the Exalted has declared all their apparently good deeds as vanished.

                  It is obvious the referents are the members of ruling elite, aristocrats and intelligentsia who have authority and influence in the society. The timeframe reference is not limited to any specific period and era. It encompasses entire timeline and authoritative verdict. Further, to let them explore the nuisances of their trait and upshot, their character is fleshed out by contrasting against another character which includes not only members of aristocracy but also whom they consider riff-raff of society; the rhetoric device Juxtaposition is superbly employed

                  وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَعَمِلُوا۟ ٱلصَّٟلِحَـٟتِ

                  And news about those Who had heartily accepted-believed and conducted righteously and moderately —

                  وَءَامَنُوا۟ بِمَا نُزِّلَ عَلَـىٰ مُحَمَّدٛ

                  And they believed in that which was gradually sent to Muhammad ; (Grand Qur’ān)

                  وَهُوَ ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّـهِـمْۙ

                  -- And it is the Infallible Doctrine-Discourse, which is sent compositely towards them in easy to read and comprehend composition by their Sustainer Lord --

                  كَفَّرَ عَنْـهُـمْ سَيِّـَٔاتِـهِـمْ

                  He the Exalted has exonerated them of their past lapses and shortcomings —

                  وَأَصْلَحَ بَالَـهُـمْ .٢

                  And He the Exalted has perfected their condition.

                  The rule and principle of destiny is highlighted for the timeline from beginning to the end of worldly life. It is reiterated point blank; henceforth Universal Messenger and the Divine Discourse shall remain the Guide for the Humanity; and the Globe shall be considered just one geographical unit, and their fate will be dependent upon, and decided in the light of Constitution prescribed through them

                  هُوَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَرْسَلَ رَسُولَهُۥ بِٱلْـهُدَىٰ وَدِينِ ٱلْحَقِّ لِيُظْهِرَهُۥ عَلَـى ٱلدِّينِ كُلِّهِۦۚ

                  He the Exalted has sent His Messenger along with ٱلْـهُـدَىٰ The information Code-Guide-Constitution (Qur’ān); and the System-Code of Conduct based upon infallible doctrine. The objective is that he might render it (Qur’ān) manifestly apparent over the System of governance, the social system of conduct in its totality.

                  وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ شَهِيدٙا .٢٨

                  Take note, Allah the Exalted suffices as ever observant; and witness upon the fact

                  مُّحَمَّدٚ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِۚ

                  Muhammad is the Messenger-Spokesperson of Allah the Exalted —

                  The statement relates to the event of decisive victory; and the take over of the House of Allah the Exalted by the elevated Messenger. Persuasion is accomplished whenever the speech is held in such a way which renders the speaker worthy of credence. Trustworthiness is at peak when stated by the witness to let the indecisive people realize the truth who were wavering by conjectural propaganda. This victory is unique, absolutely different in essence and connotation of civilizations taking over capital of another nation; it was permanent retrieval, and reinforcement of the Constitution promulgated by the Founding Father, the elevated Messenger Iebra'heim alai'his'slaam. Thenceforth, even the entry and visit of polytheists was banned for ever. It was the appropriate moment that Allah the Exalted declared; His witness suffices that Muhammad (Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam) is the Messenger of Allah the Exalted. This event also earned the universal prominence and recognition to the exalted Messenger Muhammad (Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam) . This turned the World bipolar in the real sense of the word. It turned the classification of humanity binary; one أُمَّةٙ وَسَطٙا a justly balanced, moderate, and exalted Central community, and the other is collectively ٱلْـكَـٟفِرُونَ peoples who believe not in the exalted Messenger Muhammad (Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam)

                  قُلْ يَـٰٓأَيُّـهَا ٱلْـكَـٟفِرُونَ .١

                  You the Messenger pronounce "O you all who have refused to accept me as the Messenger and explicitly or implicitly the Qur’ān as the Book of Allah the Exalted, listen!

                  لَـكُـمْ دِينُكُـمْ وَلِـىَ دِينِ .٦

                  Your system of belief and conduct is identity for you people; and mine Code and Conduct is the recognition for me.

                  Ever since the revelation of Grand Qur’ān; communicated to humanity by the elevated last and the Universal Messenger of Allah the Exalted, Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam, the basic divide and classification of human species is Believers and Non Believers in him. Highlighting the distinction and contrast in simplest words, it is pronounced that everyone is at liberty to hold their identity and system of belief and conduct. Live and let us live by our Code for the common good of all. The pronouncement comprising just thirty words suffice to guarantee that we the believers have no concept of clash of civilizations.

                  The name Muhammad was unique in the whole of Arabia; and he was the only and the first to be given this name by his elevated and blessed staunch monotheist grandfather with whom Allah the Exalted is pleased. Uniqueness of his name also rendered him well known in the society since his birth, apart from being son of aristocrat family and clan who were the controllers and sovereign of all trade routes of different seasons (1061-2).

                  Apart from the sons of soil of Arabian Peninsula, he had become equally familiar and well known for the migrant Arab-ized People of the Book—Christians and the Jews when he published - made public the contents of Grand Qur’ān

                  ٱلَّذِينَ ءَاتَيْنَـٟـهُـمُ ٱلْـكِـتَٟبَ يَعْـرِفُونَهُۥ كَمَا يَعْـرِفُونَ أَبْنَآءَهُـمْۖ

                  Those whom Our Majesty had earlier given the Book recognize him the Messenger as they conveniently recognize their sons.

                  وَإِنَّ فَرِيقٙا مِّنْـهُـمْ لَيَكْتُـمُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ وَهُـمْ يَعْلَمُونَ .١٤٦

                  However, fact remains; a group who are influential elite-clergy of them conceals-withholds the infallible truth (Qur’ān) from public. They do so purposely since they are cognizant he is the Last and Universal Messenger.

                  This type of cognition of a personality is possible when they already have had authentic information in the Book revealed upon them, and were put under obligation in the Covenant (Refer 512) to believe in and obey and follow him thenceforth. He was mentioned for easy cognition and recognition in black and white both in Tor'aat and In'jeel. That was the reason many of the People of the Book sincere to their Book and covenant believed and followed him once he introduced himself and released the Book titled Qur’ān. The Clergy of the People of Book did not have an iota of doubt for cognition of the Last and Universal Messenger. It is highlighted by employing the rhetorical strategy of exemplification. Cognitive process is controlled by brain areas such as frontal lobes, cerebellum and basal ganglia that collectively interact to exert governance and control over executive function. Cognitive process is very efficient in respect of one's sons with no hesitation and confusion. His mention was explicit for instant recognition in the Revealed Books

                  ٱلَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ ٱلرَّسُولَ ٱلنَّبِىَّ ٱلۡءاُمِّىَّ

                  They are the people who sincerely follow in action the Messenger — the Chosen and Elevated Allegiant from amongst those who were not given the Book earlier - Gentiles.

                  ٱلَّذِى يَجِدُونَهُۥ مَكْتُوبٙا عِندَهُـمْ فِـى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ وَٱلْإِنجِيلِ

                  The peculiarity of this Messenger is that they find him mentioned in writing with them inscribed in Tor'aat and In'jeel —

                  يَأْمُـرُهُـم بِٱلْمَعْـرُوفِ وَيَنْـهَىٰـهُـمْ عَنِ ٱلْمُنكَرِ

                  He directs them to follow the well known norms-permanent prescribed values and forbids them from conjectural innovations-deceits-deviations —

                  وَيُحِلُّ لَـهُـمُ ٱلطَّيِّبَٟتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْـهِـمُ ٱلْخَبَـٟٓئِثَ

                  And he declares for them permissible-lawful the things which are decent-beneficial and nutritious; and declares unlawful - restrained upon them the things which are junk, palavers, unpropitious —

                  وَيَضَعُ عَنْـهُـمْ إِصْرَهُـمْ وَٱلۡأَغْلَٟلَ ٱلَّتِـى كَانَتْ عَلَيْـهِـمْۚ

                  And he lays off from them their prestation-burden of Covenant; And lays off the shackles of conjectural myths-widely publicized conjectural stories which were placed upon them.

                  فَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ بِهِۦ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَـرُوهُ

                  Therefore, to honour and discharge their pledge, those who accepted-believed in him ((Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam) and exalted and revered him and helped him —

                  وَٱتَّبَعُوا۟ ٱلنُّورَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ مَعَهُۥٓۙ

                  And they followed in letter and spirit that Visible Light the lightener of the Path to Destination, Guarantor of the Continuity of Life (Grand Qur’ān). Particular information about it is that it was compactly sent down accompanying him (Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam-his corporeal appearance-sending in the lowly world).

                  أُو۟لَـٟٓئِكَ هُـمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ .١٥٧

                  Aforementioned are the people who endeavour for perpetual success-fruitfulness.

                  The affectionate consent to the Covenant had made the humanity uplift a burden of obligation

                  قَالَ ءَأَقْرَرْتُـمْ وَأَخَذْتُـمْ عَلَـىٰ ذَٟلـِكُـمْ إِصْرِىۖ

                  He the Exalted asked them "Have you willingly consented-pledged to it? And have you taken upon yourself to discharge-perform My prestation of obligation on this offer to you people?

                  This obligation was to be laid off by the Last and Universal Messenger from those who believed in and followed him

                  وَيَضَعُ عَنْـهُـمْ إِصْرَهُـمْ وَٱلۡأَغْلَٟلَ ٱلَّتِـى كَانَتْ عَلَيْـهِـمْۚ

                  And he lays off from them their prestation-burden of Covenant; And lays off the shackles of conjectural myths-widely publicized conjectural stories which were placed upon them.

                  Allah the Exalted now "loves" people only conditionally

                  قُلْ إِن كُنتُـمْ تُحِبُّونَ ٱللَّهَ

                  You the Messenger pronounce "If you people have been loving Allah the Exalted —

                  فَٱتَّبِعُونِـى

                  Then to demonstrate and prove it, you are instructed to heartily and diligently follow me in letter and spirit without in between there a third party intervention and influence.

                  يُحْبِبْكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ

                  If you acted accordingly, Allah the Exalted will in response-reciprocally would love-appreciate and acknowledge you people —

                  وَيَغْفِرْ لَـكُـمْ ذُنُوبَكُـمْۗ

                  Moreover, He the Exalted would overlook and grant forgiveness for you people for your earlier wrong-doings.

                  وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورٚ رَّحِـيـمٚ .٣١

                  Remember, Allah the Exalted is the Forgiving-Overlooking and the Merciful".

                  It is explicit that the salvation is now subject to honestly and sincerely following the Messenger Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salamin letter and spirit. Those who about-face are non-believers and are not worthy of liking by Allah the Exalted, it is proclaimed

                  قُلْ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلرَّسُولَۖ

                  You the Messenger pronounce "You people affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the word of Allah the Exalted and the word of the Messenger."

                  فإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟

                  In response, if they people purposely about-faced without heeding it

                  فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ ٱلْـكَـٟفِرِينَ .٣٢

                  Then remain cognizant of the fact that Allah the Exalted certainly not appreciates and approves for nearness and liking the disavowers.

                  Allah the Exalted has declared the Universal Messenger as سِرَاجٙا مُّنِيـرٙا the Luminary of unique prominence and outshining the entire created realm. And made it known that whoever would behave as maligner and depreciator, he will instantly stand doomed for ever

                  إِنَّ شَانِئَكَ هُوَ ٱلْأَبْتَـرُ .٣

                  It is a certain fact about whoever is maligner and depreciator of you the Messenger he stands doomed permanently.

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                    And;, even though they are now at the intelligence level of elementary school children, we see that they are smarter and have a healthier mindset than many people on this forum.

                    This is why some evil people are already rabidly attacking artificial intelligence. They have already crushed their worthless articles.

                    But their weeping, writhing and wailing will not change anything.These are the last struggles of the oppressors.

                    As we can see, goodness and righteousness always triumph over them

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                      elektro
                      rotfl rotfl bravo

                      Are you a real psycho by any chance?? it seems well and truly so.. better you find a specialist with AI assistance as well before it gets bad to worse.. I'M THE ONE.. muscle what an attitude that is.. rotfl rotfl
                      whatever good to know the true mentality ...

                      Allah blesses believers..

                      Salaam

                      https//www.newscientist.com/article/dn12993-chimps-outperform-humans-at-memory-task/

                      The key difference between monkeys and humans is the ability to perform simple IF-THEN-ELSE logic and math.

                      For example, even given years, Emre cannot figure out simple inheritance, such as how much to give to the husband and parents.

                      Likewise, AI cannot pre-conceptualize; if a new variable is encountered, it becomes dumb—or rather, dumber—since it was never intelligent, only a buzzword to hype it and raise money by self-idolizing geeks.

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                        Salaam

                        https//www.newscientist.com/article/dn12993-chimps-outperform-humans-at-memory-task/

                        The key difference between monkeys and humans is the ability to perform simple IF-THEN-ELSE logic and math.

                        For example, even given years, Emre cannot figure out simple inheritance, such as how much to give to the husband and parents.

                        Likewise, AI cannot pre-conceptualize; if a new variable is encountered, it becomes dumb—or rather, dumber—since it was never intelligent, only a buzzword to hype it and raise money by self-idolizing geeks.

                        For inheritance we need not resort to AI or computer.

                        1. Grand Qur’ān is for entire humanity in time line; for men of ordinary prudence, as well for scholars and intelligentsia. Therefore, all its injunctions regarding conduct and relationships need necessarily be simple and understandable for majority, who understand simple mathematics but not advanced calculators and algebra etc. Therefore, we need not act like Diophantus, Hero of Alexandria, or al-Khwârizmî to understand the injunctions given in the Qur’ān about division and distribution of inheritance since it is mentioned succinctly and explicitly in simple terms. The old simple method of dividing the divisible/allocated wealth into equal shares is adopted which is in modern times as one of the equal parts into which a company's capital is divided. The legal stakeholders for whom Allah the Exalted has apportioned mandatory shares in inheritance are the following

                        (a) Biological children of the deceased parents;

                        (b) Parents of the deceased son;

                        (c) Spouses of the deceased;

                        (3) Siblings; brothers and sisters of the deceased.

                        Other blood relatives like grand offspring and adopted or under patronage collateral child-person are not allocated any share by Allah the Exalted but it is left to the discretion of the person to bequeath for them in his wealth.

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                          In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only siblings of the deceased

                          Resolution of Heritage Verses

                          Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

                          When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

                          Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

                          Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

                          And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

                          Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

                          Nisa

                          411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

                          412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

                          4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


                          As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

                          I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

                          Nisa

                          1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

                          That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

                          Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

                          "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

                          So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
                          (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

                          If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

                          "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

                          As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

                          Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

                          "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

                          We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

                          Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

                          "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

                          In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

                          In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

                          In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

                          "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

                          If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

                          Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

                          If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

                          4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
                          Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

                          If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
                          If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
                          If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
                          If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

                          By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

                          If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

                          (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

                          In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers.


                          And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

                          As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

                          While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

                          As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

                          "A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ".

                          Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

                          ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

                          According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


                          As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

                          Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

                          48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

                          http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html

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                            For inheritance we need not resort to AI or computer.

                            Salaam, I asked a simple question.

                            If man died left 12 pounds of gold.
                            How much to his wife?
                            How much to his parents?

                            Likewise, @Emre who posts same dumb stuff.
                            Simple question use AI if you don’t understand.

                            If a woman died left 12 pounds of gold.
                            How much to her husband?
                            How much to her parents?

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                              Salaam, I asked a simple question.

                              If man died left 12 pounds of gold.
                              How much to his wife?
                              How much to his parents?

                              Likewise, @Emre who posts same dumb stuff.
                              Simple question use AI if you don’t understand.

                              If a woman died left 12 pounds of gold.
                              How much to her husband?
                              How much to her parents?

                              First study the basic laid down rules for distribution of inheritance, you will then need not asking such stupid questions.

                              The law of inheritance prescribed for Mankind and made obligatory upon the Believers is based upon the Testate succession and the Mandatory allocations. It is made incumbent upon the believers to make a bequeath in favour of their parents and relatively near relatives. A detailed procedure is laid down for bequeathing and for its verification after the death of concerned person. It can be modified in case there is patent tilt or injustice in the bequeath.

                              Allah the Exalted has specifically covered such situations which are pregnant for abuse of man-dominance and injustice. In such situations, Allah the Exalted has exercised the Authority and Will to demarcate certain parts of the Inheritance, and permanently allocating it to specific relatives in preference to others. The old simple method of dividing into equal shares is adopted like equal parts into which a company's capital is divided these days. The unique feature of law of inheritance promulgated in Grand Qur’ān is that Mankind's ever cherished notion of absolute preference to male offspring is inverted by declaring daughter/s, not son/s, the focus and theme of Inheritance.

                              Allah the Exalted has allocated inalienable shares for the bereaved relatives in the most simple method by categorizing the deceased in three mutually exclusive types

                              (i) Parents (Biological father and mother) leaving behind one daughter, or two daughters and son, or many daughters, daughter and son/sons, or more than one son. Parents leaving behind only one son are not in this category.

                              (ii) Deceased leaving behind alive parents, both mother and father; one son and spouse (wife/wives or husband). Or deceased leaving behind only parents (father and mother) and spouse, but without one son to grieve.

                              (iii) Deceased (man or woman) leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, and no spouse, but leaving one son to grieve him. Or deceased leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, no spouse, no son but leaving behind to grieve him one sister, or two sisters, or sister/s and brothers.

                              All the three deceased are distinct and exclude one and another. We will not find any other type of deceased in the world.

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                                First study the basic laid down rules for distribution of inheritance, you will then need not asking such stupid questions.

                                You open a thread on translation and can’t answer a simple question. If you died tomorrow and left only a wife and parents, how much does each inherit?

                                This is basic, and anyone who frequents this site will see that you’re clueless and cannot understand even simple kid math, let alone discuss or translate advanced topics.

                                Similar to Emre, who keeps littering the forum with the same stupid stuff like he has diarrhea, and yet the moderators keep letting him do it! Hence, Free Minds has become the site of the absurd, full of dumb apes and monkeys.

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                                  You open a thread on translation and can’t answer a simple question. If you died tomorrow and left only a wife and parents, how much does each inherit?

                                  This is basic, and anyone who frequents this site will see that you’re clueless and cannot understand even simple kid math, let alone discuss or translate advanced topics.

                                  Similar to Emre, who keeps littering the forum with the same stupid stuff like he has diarrhea, and yet the moderators keep letting him do it! Hence, Free Minds has become the site of the absurd, full of dumb apes and monkeys.

                                  Qur'an asks me to avoid when someone proves to be an idiot desperately avoiding to read something that describes the concept in detail.

                                  Thanks.

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                                    Qur'an asks me to avoid when someone proves to be an idiot desperately avoiding to read something that describes the concept in detail.

                                    Thanks.

                                    No Qur’ān calls you an idiot and dumb ape likewise you’re a coward that can’t answer a basic question and only rants about verbs and nouns.

                                    No thanks!

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                                      In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only siblings of the deceased

                                      Resolution of Heritage Verses

                                      Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

                                      When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

                                      Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

                                      Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

                                      And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

                                      Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

                                      Nisa

                                      411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

                                      412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

                                      4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


                                      As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

                                      I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

                                      Nisa

                                      1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

                                      That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

                                      Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

                                      "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

                                      So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
                                      (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

                                      If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

                                      "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

                                      As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

                                      Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

                                      "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

                                      We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

                                      Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

                                      "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

                                      In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

                                      In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

                                      In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

                                      "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

                                      If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

                                      Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

                                      If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

                                      4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
                                      Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

                                      If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
                                      If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
                                      If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
                                      If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

                                      By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

                                      If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

                                      (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

                                      In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers.


                                      And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

                                      As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

                                      While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

                                      As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

                                      "A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ".

                                      Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

                                      ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

                                      According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


                                      As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

                                      Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

                                      48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

                                      http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html

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                                        3.5. Translator must determine the Thesis Statement, the Objective of authoring it and its audience.

                                        The Author tells the would-be-translator to realize the gigantic task he intends to undertake. It explains that nothing relevant to the audience is neglected mentioning therein (63.

                                        The minimum an author expects from the would-be-interlingual translator is that he must ascertain, before undertaking translation and interpretation, Thesis Statement, the Objective of authoring, and its audience.

                                        The diction and unity of the book revolves around these factors. The text in the target language will lack coherence and unity if these are not ascertained first and kept in mind while translating segments of the text. It will lack conveyance of the message and may yield a superficial and vague presentation, not relevant to the source text. What is the book about as a whole is the question that leads the reader to discover the leading theme - thesis statement of the book. A thesis statement makes an assertion; it is not just a statement or observation. It is a specific, definite and limited assertion that needs to be explained and supported by further discussion, concrete evidence and plausible arguments. It is main idea not title of the book. Thesis statement takes a stance - a position rather than announcing the topic or subject.

                                        The humanity is its audience which has ordinary intelligent reader - ordinary prudence and intellectuals, philosophers and scientists. And it is understood that a good author is he who writes according to the intellectual level of his audience.

                                        The author is always superior in knowledge than the reader. Therefore, the author can meaningfully communicate only when he is conscious of the intellectual level of his audience and his message is geared to be consonant with the audience's prior knowledge and assumptions. It is the audience in relation to whom will depend the main idea, validation and support, word choice, sentence structure, writing plan - form, and writing relationship what tone of voice comes to you as a reader.

                                        Knowing the audience will lead the reader to question as to what are the author's objectives and persuasion. Agreement with the Thesis Statement does imply action on the part of reader. If persuasion has lead him to conviction that the ends proposed in the Book are worthy, and means recommended therein are most likely to achieve those ends, it is hard to think he will refuse to act as the Author wishes him to do. The Book persuades the reader to accept its Thesis Statement, whereby he is termed مُؤْمِنٚ the Believer, and then wishes him to act and conduct his life as Muslim, one who submits and surrenders his freewill.

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                                          3.5. Translator must determine the Thesis Statement, the Objective of authoring it and its audience.

                                          The Author tells the would-be-translator to realize the gigantic task he intends to undertake. It explains that nothing relevant to the audience is neglected mentioning therein (63.

                                          The minimum an author expects from the would-be-interlingual translator is that he must ascertain, before undertaking translation and interpretation, Thesis Statement, the Objective of authoring, and its audience.

                                          The diction and unity of the book revolves around these factors. The text in the target language will lack coherence and unity if these are not ascertained first and kept in mind while translating segments of the text. It will lack conveyance of the message and may yield a superficial and vague presentation, not relevant to the source text. What is the book about as a whole is the question that leads the reader to discover the leading theme - thesis statement of the book. A thesis statement makes an assertion; it is not just a statement or observation. It is a specific, definite and limited assertion that needs to be explained and supported by further discussion, concrete evidence and plausible arguments. It is main idea not title of the book. Thesis statement takes a stance - a position rather than announcing the topic or subject.

                                          The humanity is its audience which has ordinary intelligent reader - ordinary prudence and intellectuals, philosophers and scientists. And it is understood that a good author is he who writes according to the intellectual level of his audience.

                                          The author is always superior in knowledge than the reader. Therefore, the author can meaningfully communicate only when he is conscious of the intellectual level of his audience and his message is geared to be consonant with the audience's prior knowledge and assumptions. It is the audience in relation to whom will depend the main idea, validation and support, word choice, sentence structure, writing plan - form, and writing relationship what tone of voice comes to you as a reader.

                                          Knowing the audience will lead the reader to question as to what are the author's objectives and persuasion. Agreement with the Thesis Statement does imply action on the part of reader. If persuasion has lead him to conviction that the ends proposed in the Book are worthy, and means recommended therein are most likely to achieve those ends, it is hard to think he will refuse to act as the Author wishes him to do. The Book persuades the reader to accept its Thesis Statement, whereby he is termed مُؤْمِنٚ the Believer, and then wishes him to act and conduct his life as Muslim, one who submits and surrenders his freewill.

                                          My question Is there a single translator and exegete who discharged this basic requirement of academic study of Qur'an? Why they forgot it?

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