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24:43 vs 22:18

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    hawk99
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    Hey guys,
    Salam!
    In verse 22'18, doesn't it state that Allah sajad instead?
    Then in verse 24'43 they all sajad?

    I read an article on it.

    Peace JinnJinn, welcome to the forum welcome

    {221 Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor. Indeed, Allah does what He wills.

    and (2443) Do you not see that Allah drives clouds? Then He brings them together, then He makes them into a mass, and you see the rain emerge from within it. And He sends down from the sky, mountains within which is hail, and He strikes with it whom He wills and averts it from whom He wills. The flash of its lightening almost takes away the eyesight.

    Basically, Allah controls all things.

    God bless

    peace

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      Wakas
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      Why don't you quote the verses and be clear about what you are claiming/asking.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        JinnJinn
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        Peace JinnJinn, welcome to the forum welcome

        {221 Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor. Indeed, Allah does what He wills.

        and (2443) Do you not see that Allah drives clouds? Then He brings them together, then He makes them into a mass, and you see the rain emerge from within it. And He sends down from the sky, mountains within which is hail, and He strikes with it whom He wills and averts it from whom He wills. The flash of its lightening almost takes away the eyesight.

        Basically, Allah controls all things.

        God bless

        peace

        You have zero idea what Arabic is all about.

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          hawk99
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          You have zero idea what Arabic is all about.

          Peace JinnJinn,

          Could you give your translations and interpretations of the verses? handshake

          God bless you

          peace

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            JinnJinn
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            Good evening,
            There is nothing to translate Bruh. The Arabic word ‘Allah’ can never be deduced as ‘TO Allah’. For your kind info, in case you are not familiar with Arabic then reach out for a better dictionary. The word ‘Lillah’ precisely means ‘TO/FOR Allah’ in every verse of the Al Quran.in
            In 22’18 it states, Allah Himself sajad, i.e. concedes/admits/owns/acknowledges
            22’18 Do you not notice that Allah concedes (sajad) to Him,,,,,’

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              Emre_1974tr
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              Hey JinnJinn;

              Why are you writing with a new nickname and identity? Why don't you use your old account?

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                shukri
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                Admin,
                Please delete this post!
                Thank you.

                "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred"

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                  JinnJinn
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                  Hey JinnJinn;

                  Why are you writing with a new nickname and identity? Why don't you use your old account?

                  What do you mean by new nickname and identity? Which old account you are referring to lovely lady?

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                    hawk99
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                    Good evening,
                    There is nothing to translate Bruh. The Arabic word ‘Allah’ can never be deduced as ‘TO Allah’. For your kind info, in case you are not familiar with Arabic then reach out for a better dictionary. The word ‘Lillah’ precisely means ‘TO/FOR Allah’ in every verse of the Al Quran.in
                    In 22’18 it states, Allah Himself sajad, i.e. concedes/admits/owns/acknowledges
                    22’18 Do you not notice that Allah concedes (sajad) to Him,,,,,’

                    Peace Jinn,

                    LOL is that it? I thought you had something to contribute regarding the verses. You could have
                    stated you were going to make a grammatical correction, so simple.

                    God bless you

                    peace

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                      JinnJinn
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                      Peace Jinn,

                      LOL is that it? I thought you had something to contribute regarding the verses. You could have
                      stated you were going to make a grammatical correction, so simple.

                      God bless you

                      peace

                      You look so proud in your replies but zero, unfortunately.
                      You neglected the core I presented and still remain happy with what you say without any explanation for it.

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                        Bajram_Hoxhaj
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                        In 22’18 it states, Allah Himself sajad, i.e. concedes/admits/owns/acknowledges
                        22’18 Do you not notice that Allah concedes (sajad) to Him

                        No, you obviously cannot read and missed the nuance of "يَ" (ya) prefix, which indicates the third-person masculine plural in this context, and the phrase يَسْجُدُ لَهُ means "they sjudu to Him."

                        2218 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yasjudu Lahu

                        2441 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yusabbiĥu Lahu

                        The structure is similar in 2441 with يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ (yusabbiḥu lahu), but the verb يُسَبِّحُ (yusabbiḥu) means "they glorify" (with يَ indicating "they&quot لَهُ (lahu) "to Him."

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                          JinnJinn
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                          No, you obviously cannot read and missed the nuance of "يَ" (ya) prefix, which indicates the third-person masculine plural in this context, and the phrase يَسْجُدُ لَهُ means "they sjudu to Him."

                          2218 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yasjudu Lahu

                          2441 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yusabbiĥu Lahu

                          The structure is similar in 2441 with يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ (yusabbiḥu lahu), but the verb يُسَبِّحُ (yusabbiḥu) means "they glorify" (with يَ indicating "they&quot لَهُ (lahu) "to Him."

                          Hey Nipple Sucker! Was it chocolate or vanilla?
                          rotfl
                          Learn Arabic before teaching to others. Would you? You won't.

                          Yashjud lahu يَسْجُدُ لَهُ means He/It concedes/admits/acknowledges to Him/It, and in this case 'Allah concedes to Him'. يَسْجُدُ لَهُ is not they. It is singular and third person. And it is Allah in the verse.
                          Don't vomit chocolate milk with your replies. Have some shame before lying. Yeah, you can freely lie, because most do not understand here.
                          Go, find a nipple of chocolate, and be among those 7% who consider chocolate milk to come from Mama's nipple. rotfl

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                            Bajram_Hoxhaj
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                            Yashjud lahu يَسْجُدُ لَهُ means He/It

                            No, يَ (he/it/they) depends on the context.

                            1315 وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ (Wa Lillahi Yasjudu – يَ context "they&quot
                            Man Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Al-'Arđi (whoever is in the heavens and the earth)

                            1649 وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ (Wa Lillahi Yasjudu – يَ context "they&quot
                            Mā Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Mā Fī Al-'Arđi (whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth)

                            2218 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yasjudu (يَ context "they&quot Lahu (to Him)
                            Man Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Man Fī Al-'Arđi (whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth)

                            You're easy to identify by your braying.

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                              hawk99
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                              You look so proud in your replies but zero, unfortunately.
                              You neglected the core I presented and still remain happy with what you say without any explanation for it.

                              Hey Jinn,

                              Core? nope You offered nothing.

                              God bless you

                              peace

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                                JinnJinn
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                                No, يَ (he/it/they) depends on the context.

                                1315 وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ (Wa Lillahi Yasjudu – يَ context "they&quot
                                Man Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Al-'Arđi (whoever is in the heavens and the earth)

                                1649 وَلِلَّهِ يَسْجُدُ (Wa Lillahi Yasjudu – يَ context "they&quot
                                Mā Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Mā Fī Al-'Arđi (whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth)

                                2218 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yasjudu (يَ context "they&quot Lahu (to Him)
                                Man Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Man Fī Al-'Arđi (whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth)

                                You're easy to identify by your braying.

                                Hey, good evening, guys.

                                You are free to bray and convince fools. You can keep lying.
                                Learn what is singular and plural first.
                                Yashjud is never plural but it is singular. He/It concedes/acknowledges (Yashjud).
                                Yashjudun is plural i.e. They concede/acknowledge

                                So, Habeebi! the above verses are as follows

                                13'15 And TO Allah concedes/acknowledges (Yashjud),,,'
                                16'49 And TO Allah concedes/acknowledges (Yashjud),,,'
                                22'18 Do you not notice that Allah concedes/acknowledges (Yashjud),,,'

                                Everything is singular. The problem for you prejudiced brayers like you is that you have no idea what sajad or sabih means so you are trying your magic on verses to change basic from them.

                                @Hay featherless Hawky!
                                You are zero. On a day when you become Zero to one or two, you will realize how embarrassing you were here on this very topic. Now you are in a fantasy world. Enjoy the moment until the embarrassment reaches you one day. At least embarrassment would be better, which means you have realized it. No embarrassment in the future means you remained like a frog in the well.

                                Good night! See you guys in the morning with the willingness of my Savior.

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                                  Bajram_Hoxhaj
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                                  22'18 Do you not notice that Allah concedes/acknowledges (Yashjud),,,'

                                  That's beyond absurd! Allah does not sujud to anything or anyone!

                                  The verb يَسْجُدُ (Yasjudu) can be plural depending on the context, especially for inanimate objects or collective entities in classical Arabic. In Qur'an 2218, it refers to various creations like the sun, moon, mountains, and trees prostrating to Allah. Here, يَسْجُدُ signifies 'they prostrate,' referring to the collective action of many beings, not 'he prostrates' as in Allah prostrating or conceding, or whatever dumb verbs your braying mind is conjuring.

                                  I've already showed similar structure in 2441 يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ

                                  2441 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yusabbiĥu Lahu Man Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Al-'Arđi Wa Aţ-Ţayru Şāffātin Kullun Qad Alima Şalātahu Wa Tasbīĥahu Wa Allāhu Alīmun Bimā Yaf`alūna

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                                    JinnJinn
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                                    يَسْجُدُواif it is written like this anywhere in Al Quran it means plural and it precisely states ‘They admit/concede/acknowledge’.
                                    يَسْجُدُif it is written like this anywhere in Al Quran it means singular and it precisely states ‘He/It admits/concedes/acknowledges’.
                                    Why should not Allah يَسْجُد? Allah acknowledges/concedes to Him (lahu) whatever is in the Heavens and Earth. Is that a problem for you? Yeah, He doesn't' prostrate.
                                    Allah’s grammar is precise; don’t even attempt to make it crooked by pluralizing them. Hey folks, don’t surrender to this idiot who is lost.
                                    You can’t kill grammar and understand Al Quran. For me, you are just a pathetic doomed person in a pit of darkness.
                                    Whatever/whoever/whichever is singular. Mind it Nipple sucker.

                                    Is it vanilla today or chocolate and which one you missed? rotfl Bajram Hypocrite

                                    That's beyond absurd! Allah does not sujud to anything or anyone!

                                    The verb يَسْجُدُ (Yasjudu) can be plural depending on the context, especially for inanimate objects or collective entities in classical Arabic. In Qur'an 2218, it refers to various creations like the sun, moon, mountains, and trees prostrating to Allah. Here, يَسْجُدُ signifies 'they prostrate,' referring to the collective action of many beings, not 'he prostrates' as in Allah prostrating or conceding, or whatever dumb verbs your braying mind is conjuring.

                                    I've already showed similar structure in 2441 يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ

                                    2441 'Alam Tará 'Anna Allāha Yusabbiĥu Lahu Man Fī As-Samāwāti Wa Al-'Arđi Wa Aţ-Ţayru Şāffātin Kullun Qad Alima Şalātahu Wa Tasbīĥahu Wa Allāhu Alīmun Bimā Yaf`alūna

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                                      Bajram_Hoxhaj
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                                      Then translate 2441?

                                      Is it vanilla today or chocolate and which one you missed? rotfl

                                      There's another survey of 240M flat earthers like yourself.

                                      Now fk off, go sjudu yourself you dumb lowlife jinnjkan fk!

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                                        JinnJinn
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                                        Then translate 2441?

                                        There's another survey of 240M flat earthers like yourself.

                                        Now fk off, go sjudu yourself you dumb lowlife jinnjkan fk!

                                        Oops! Do you believe Earth is flat rotfl rotfl 240 M? Are they also chocolate? rotfl
                                        I always sjudu you brainless nut. Do you think hypocrisy can be overcome?
                                        Loser. You are a loser who cannot hold when the factual evidence is presented and remains in your fkng point. In the Hell, you won't find anyone to fk anyone. So go fk before it is too late.

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                                          hawk99
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                                          Then translate 2441?

                                          There's another survey of 240M flat earthers like yourself.

                                          Now fk off, go sjudu yourself you dumb lowlife jinnjkan fk!

                                          Peace Bajram Hoxhaj and Emre_1974tr

                                          From the time when jinnjinn joined the forum I suspected it was Jkhan on a revenge tour.
                                          He gave himself away with statements like "lovely" and his determination to fight over words.
                                          I wish the brother well.

                                          God bless you

                                          peace

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