Any other evidence for The Quran being God's Word?
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The mathematical equation is quite amazing, and the scientific stuff too but is there anything else or is it just up to faith at that point because I've been struggling to find the correct faith I mean I am convinced that the Quran is the definite word of God but then there's also the book of Mormon and how do I know that's not a revelation from god to?
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The mathematical equation is quite amazing, and the scientific stuff too but is there anything else or is it just up to faith at that point because I've been struggling to find the correct faith I mean I am convinced that the Quran is the definite word of God but then there's also the book of Mormon and how do I know that's not a revelation from god to?
The response is on your text, from the point of view of modern science Faith or not faith.
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Peace Mo.
For me, I try to study the contents of any book I think may be interesting or claimed to be divine.
You can then begin to know a little bit, you will start to have an idea and with some books ,you may discard sooner, others a bit later as you want to give them the benefit of a doubt.
Very few can stand the test of the sincere seeker of the truth. Only one book is staying the distance with me so far, that is Qoran.
Of course I may not be aware of other interesting divine books that are very scarce to find in our age.Where are you with the book of Mormons?
What about Qoran?
Are there other books you are studying as well?Regardless of who says what about any book, only you can decide however you choose to accept or reject.The use of our eyes, ears and brain is our own responsibility and we can only be accountable for our own choices through our GOD given faculties.
In my opinion, I am certain Qoran is from the Lord of the universe,according to my own findings and study.
Then, the most important things is to do good/ follow the straight path and learn to improve our life for the better.
Hope you reach your own certainty about your own decision.
GOD bless you.
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Peace All.
If one believes Qoran is the word of GOD ,then one should automatically believe in GOD and accountability/meeting his/her creator.Therefore does GOD exist can only mean do you live your life with a certainty that you are accountable/return to the one who created you and everything else.
This will render the question "does GOD exist?" irrelevant.
Believing is both in the existence and in accountability/how one leads their life. One is useless without the other.Therefore those who are certain they will be accountable about what they do in their life are believers in GOD.
Those who do not , are not believers.
So to say I believe in GOD does not mean I am a believer unless I complement it by leading my life according to GOD s message/instructions.The above means some will have evidence that GOD exists others do not/will not.
However all of us will be accountable for the use of our faculties, or "death" means something else?
Life and death are both a reality, do they have both a purpose?
GOD bless you all.
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About your question, I dont have an answer,
But
What is Quran, is it the book we have and is that referring itself in it?No I dont think so, Quran just means the readings and the teachings given, those one has to take to heart and statements to keep in mind.
How can the book talk about itself?
like, we have given the 7 verses and the Quran, so where was the Quran then? Quran was said to released in phases? so the question is do we need to include all the verses we have into Quran? There looks no answer.About the word Kitab? Kitab are the past laws and stories of the people that were passed from generation after generations and act as moral examples for people to follow. It is part of the Quran and not the total book.
Al qawlan in many instances referred to as the word indirectly meaning the book itself, but it actually refers to the decree or the judgements.
Also another question is some of the verses relate to the rules for the prophet and Mohammed and it applies to them in those instances, so why we should worry about those now and what are the teachings those gives currently?
most now take the total Quran as the book, the teachings looks not so important, rather the book and its verses, and we doubt the book and find magic.
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Examining the Quran for Inconsistencies
The Quran, in claiming to be a divine book, should naturally align with our intellect and reason. We would not expect to find contradictions within it. In fact, the Quran itself invites this scrutiny. Consider verse 482, which is translated as
“Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.”So feel free to use your intellect— a gift you know is from God— and seek the consistencies within it.
Comparing the Quran with Other Religious Texts
Another valuable approach is to compare the Quran with other religious texts. Personally, when I read the Book of Mormon, I recall finding many sections that felt irrelevant or disconnected. It did not feel like God was speaking directly to me, offering important guidance. Unfortunately, that was a long time ago, so I am unable to provide a concrete example now. However, I had a similar experience with parts of the Bible and the Old Testament, which I still remember more clearly.
To illustrate this point, consider the Book of Genesis in the Old Testament. When reading about Noah’s life, you encounter a lengthy genealogy listing the names of Noah’s sons, Japheth’s sons, Gomer’s sons, Javan’s sons, and so on. These details can feel excessive and not particularly meaningful for someone seeking divine guidance. In contrast, Chapter 71 of the Quran, which also recounts the story of Noah, is strikingly concise and focused. It reads as though it was authored by a wiser entity that understands the value of brevity. This brings to mind the saying often attributed to Mark Twain
“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”Reading the Quran feels fundamentally different. It is a unique experience. To be fair, I have also encountered certain parts of the Bible that resonated similarly, but the Quran stands out consistently in this regard. Even when the Quran tells a story, the guidance is densely packed within the narrative. Take Chapter 12, which tells the story of Joseph. As the story unfolds, it offers numerous lessons that extend far beyond Joseph's personal experiences. For example, verses 37-40 present a remarkably concise summary of the Quran's core message, all within the context of Joseph's dialogue with his fellow prisoners.
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The Quran as a Practical Guide
Finally, it is important to recognize that the Quran makes many claims—being from God is just one of them. Perhaps more significantly for our daily lives, the Quran claims to be THE guide (see verse 22). This is a particularly notable claim because it offers a practical test for its divinity. Simply put, you can follow its guidance and observe the results.
While the Quran’s alignment with mathematics, logic, and science is remarkable, its alignment with our personal lives as a source of practical guidance is, in my view, an even stronger proof. This is precisely what I would expect from a divine book—and exactly what I need in my life.
Experiencing the Quran as a guide that eases life’s challenges and aids in making sound decisions is a unique kind of proof. These experiences can be deeply personal and sometimes difficult to articulate. Yet, they often unfold in striking ways. You may feel confident about a particular decision, only to suddenly find yourself questioning it. In seeking clarity, you turn to the Quran, reflect on its guidance, and ultimately choose your course of action based on its principles. In my experience, its guidance consistently leads to positive outcomes—though at times, what may seem like an unfavorable result initially often reveals itself to be the right path in hindsight. But of course, one should always be careful to remain honest when analyzing this proof, as it is easy to deceive oneself in this subjective and often emotionally charged domain.
Even more compelling are those decisions you would never have considered making had it not been for the Quran’s teachings. Such moments can be profoundly moving, serving as a personal affirmation of the Quran’s divine nature. For instance, the proactive approach advised in verse 2412 and the opposite approach in verse 2413 offer insightful examples of this kind of guidance.
While I can share more specific examples, I recognize that personal experiences can easily be dismissed as ‘speculative’ or ‘subjective.’ Nonetheless, you can also explore how such guidance manifested in the life of Muhammad (e.g., 4730, 9101). Reflecting on these examples alongside verse 4153—“We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth”—may offer further clarity.
Conclusion
These reflections and experiences strengthen my conviction that the Quran is far more than a book merely claiming divine origin. It is a guide that offers practical solutions to life’s dilemmas, resonates deeply with our reason, and aligns with our lived experiences. I hope these insights prove helpful.
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Book or Mormon has issues, you can watch from here
https//youtu.be/0dXtlG11q-g?t=515Quran and probability article, unique take
https//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Does_God_Exist_home.htmTo my surprise someone made a video using a similar argument to my article above
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5XaLRCrAHk -
To my surprise someone made a video using a similar argument to my article above
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5XaLRCrAHkThe YouTube video claims that it used ChatGPT to verify arguments like “in the Quran, the word ‘month’ appears exactly 12 times.” For this purpose, it shows a prompt such as “please count how many times…”(343). The assumption is that the LLM (ChatGPT, in this case) takes a Quran from its database and starts counting—one, two, three…—while in fact, that’s not how LLMs work. I am not saying that the original arguments are necessarily wrong, but the method presented for verifying them is unreliable.
For example, the prompt “If the Quran is considered 100% authentic as a religious text, please calculate the authenticity percentage of Hadith collections in comparison?” returns “99% or higher” for the books of al-Buhkari and Muslim.
I can suggest a very nice Youtube video if you are interested in how LLMs work.
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