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adam and his descendants in heaven

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    unknownuser
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    were there more humans other than adam and his partner in heaven ?

    So far, we only have Adam eating from the Tree which gives him 'independence' from GOD's system of protection. However, Adam has only excersized a 'free-choice' that was offered to him by GOD (as it was offered to all other creation). Thus, Adam has not committed any 'sin' or 'crime' that he is punishable for (yet!).

    "And your Lord said to the Angels I will make a 'successor' (Khalifa) in Earth. They replied would You allow in it those who would corrupt in it and shed blood? we will always praise Your glory and awe at Your grace. He said I know what you do not know" (230)

    We have come back to the very beginning of our article...The famous conversation in heaven between GOD and His Angels!.

    We have shown that man was created and placed in 'heaven' (not Earth), and that he had committed 'no-sin' to deserve any form of retribution or be required to 'respite' himself (after all, the tree itself was allowed to exist by GOD).

    It is here that the Quran tells us what 'went-wrong' for our species "would You allow in it those who would corrupt in it and shed blood!".

    Man had 'sinned'!.

    This 'sin' (corruption & bloodshed) was a result of Adam seeking to be 'independent' from GOD and thinking that he could control his own destiny (pretty much what we are doing here on Earth).

    1. Adam seeks 'Redemption'!.

    Adam and his descendants have sinned a great sin in the eyes of the Lord and needed to be 'Punished' for their crimes. This is where Adam plea's to GOD for forgiveness

    "...Their Lord called upon them 'Did I not enjoin you from that tree, and warn you that the devil is your most ardent enemy?. They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged our souls, and unless You forgive us and have mercy on us, we will be losers." (722-23)

    This is a 'predicament' which Adam has gotten himself into!. He has realized that without GOD's system he has failed and incurred a terrible retribution.

    1. A 'Dispute' erupts in heaven!.

    Now that mankind (represented by Adam) have committed a gross offence in the sight of the Lord (corruption & blood-shed), and since Adam has requested that he be given a chance at 'redemption', there came a great DEBATE in heaven as to what their punishment should be

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      Andya_Primanda
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      Peace Marlboro,

      Personally, I don't think Adam was created in heaven, but on earth. And most likely there were other humans around.

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        unknownuser
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        peace primanda

        if shuttle can land from space, so can comet/astroid with adam n eve, nei ? rotfl

        its late nite here i must sleep im getting crazy now.

        peace!

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          TheNabi
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          Peace

          I think the story is a metaphor for the human in general describing a state to which one must return to and the state which should be carefully watched.

          Some stories will be hard to understand, in my opinion, if one cannot penetrate the veil, the barrier which God has put between different people when reciting the reading.

          Like the story of Moses and God's servant. It deals with a deeper knowledge, which people often question. The question is usually something like, why do good things happen to bad people or why do bad things happen to good people? Why is there evil in the world? This story will answer it. Basically the man is like God or His power in action, Moses is you or me. We have limited knowledge and cannot have patience with the ways in which God works. Things that are seemingly bad are for the good of the people. God works to promote our growth, but people do not always learn.

          Another is the story of the Cave, the youths of the cave. They represent the people who retreat from the idleness of their people, keeping to themselves that to which they adhere, lest their people seek to force them to themselves. It reveals also a concept of time and death and the hereafter.

          Joe

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