New Forum Rule PROPOSAL
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Peace,
I have the following rule to propose "Yes" or "No" questions are not the right mode of questions on a discussion board.
This is a discussion board and questions should be open ended. It is not possible to give a Yes or No answer to a incorrect question, and at the same time it puts the questioner in an advantageous position. The questioner escapes much damage whilst the answering person is under constant challenge.
Seeimingly, there are a few posters who are abusing this forum by turning the discussions into a kangaroo court. This is not acceptable, please address this source of fitnah.
Thanks
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Salaam Zein,
There are people who like to pigeon hole people by appointing themselves as the judge and using their "yes" or "no" questions as a tool for their fitnah.
I can't think of any scenario that a "yes" or "no" question posed persistently can be used to promote discussion. It assumes the questioners basis is right and does not allow the answering person to challenge that basis.
Hence, discussion should be conducted without intefering with ones right to answer or not or in the way they wish to respond to.
The rule should be conduct a discussion and not an interrogation. A persistent, yes or no question to me is the self appointed judge conducting an interrogation while all his questions are wrong.
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Salaam,
Yea, it seems a better course that people try to ask open-ended questions so that more meaningful discussions can be had. I do not think it is necessary however. It would be good advice to try to ask questions in such a manner. Let's not assume or declare that close-ended questions are necessarily wrong though. )>-
Joe
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Peace,
Does islam condone killing a human being? Yes or No?
Is the sort of question, it does not consider what this "human being" did?
Was he a serial killer? Or an innocent person who was killed by an oppressive nation for his thoughts.Notice, what hides behind "human being"= it could be serial killer, or a decent person who had different thoughts.
Behind, "islam" there is a direct linking to an oppressive state run by dictators whose religion was muslim in label alone.
These are the methods of Trolls, it has to be said.
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Peace,
Does islam condone killing a human being? Yes or No?
Is the sort of question, it does not consider what this "human being" did?
Was he a serial killer? Or an innocent person who was killed by an oppressive nation for his thoughts.Notice, what hides behind "human being"= it could be serial killer, or a decent person who had different thoughts.
Behind, "islam" there is a direct linking to an oppressive state run by dictators whose religion was muslim in label alone.
These are the methods of Trolls, it has to be said.
Peace be upon you Ash,
Very nice example... .
I agree with you 100% yay
Regards,
MMKhan
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Greetings with peace,
Peace,
Does islam condone killing a human being? Yes or No?These are what I call "lawyer style" questions... framing the question so that the unaware can get framed! Because once it is answered "Yes", the answerer is stopped right there and the rest of it is ignored and proceeds as "Your Honor, this is the true color of ..." )
Anwar Azim
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Peace Ash Shuura, everyone,
I see this differently. If a person poses a question, it doesn't mean others have to answer it, and of course not in the way the person who is asking wants it to be answered.
We should learn this simple "rule" from chilhood, because many times it seems that when you are asked something, you HAVE TO answer necessarily, but not, not at all.
In other words, everyone is free to ask whatever thing. The reply is free as well, and this won't break the discussion, in my opinion it will enrich it.
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Peace Elena,
I agree with you in the situation you mention.
However, here the question proceeds with a negative inducement.
If you look at Question/Comments on Qur'an Important Questions thread one person has chosen not to answer and this is the slander that proceeded
you are the only hold out. Are you now ready to simply answer "no" to the above question? People look to you, and rightly so, for information. By your not answering no the above question, can only reflect badly on your credibility, hence, setting the condition for people to look suspiciously at things you say.
Hence, this question in the hands of a troll sets havoc in a community. You don't answer and the havoc continues, or you take him on.
Unfortunately, with someone being irrational and trying to respond in a rational manner does not help. I think the rules governing the community need to be looked at.
I must day I am very very disappointed by the reaction of the moderators, I understand they're having a tough job but they're latting the peace go down the pan.
Regards
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Peace Ash Shuura,
On the one hand, I understand your point and agree to a certain extent. On the other hand, what solution would you propose? There is a fine line between boundary and censorship, and in this case, for a rule to be enforced where we could not ask "yes or no" questions would just be debilitating.
I think the proper way to deal with this scenario is on a case by case basis. If someone is being overly aggressive in his/her line of questioning, a simple "no one has the right to demand an answer" would do.
Here are a few suggested replies
"Your question is loaded, and hence, not quite as black and white as you suggest."
"Your question is built on a false premise."
"Your question is subjective, as are the terms of you've included."
"Your question is deceptive."
"I'm not here to win arguments, I'm here to discuss and learn."
and lastly...
"Only a Sith thinks in absolutes" sun
Peace,
Tay -
Peace Tay,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I see freedom of speech as a tool to promote discussion. I don't think one is allowed to say what they want to say and promote trouble.
I can't see how the quote I provided promotes discussion, it is a clear denigration of a persons good name.
All IMO.
Regards
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Peace be upon you Ash Shura,
Maintain your own peaceful state of mind. Your concern stems from worrying about what others think. This thread here should show you that many witnessing the debates have a clear idea of who is doing what, so while some want to play word games of "yes and no", in the end, it will have no effect. D
Be at ease, do not let anyone steal your peace. You have the right to remain SILENT D
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Peace Kyle,
Thanks
Peace D