Intepretation of 74:30-31 before Code19 ?
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Hi Saladin!
I guess the number nineteen has always been there in history. But before RK, I guess the people that didn't know about the history of 19 would have seen those passages as something difficult to understand , likesome of the last chapters, where it says things like "By The fig". I guess there will always be passages with meaning that are understood according to the time (Without deliberate mistranslation by people like the +19 mind you).
There are many verses that we don't understand today aswell. And I'm pretty sure 7431 will apply to another kind of scenario in the future, perhaps counting 19 clouds in the sky or something like that, it will involve counting 19, but not neccessarily words in the reading. And we alive today might not even be alive for the next scenario, or maybe right now people are counting19 in something else as we speak!
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Peace Saladin,
I think the verse was interpreted as a warning of hell fire before the so-called 'code 19'. Many claim that the language is clear in the verse and that the warning about hell-fire is clear too, to me this makes more sense than promoting the associating of 19 with the Great One.
I am not an expert in the arabic language and if it is clear about hell fire then there are some serious problems with the interpretations of pro 19 people.
Nural
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Peace be upon you,
Just as food for thought, there is a very old tradition of ancient Africa, which was taken into the tradition of Judaism as "Kabbalah". It deals with what is called the "Tree of Life". Anyway, to make it a short answer, numbers 1-9 represented the MENTAL REALM, where things like thoughts and emotions reside, 10 represented the PHYSICAL REALM, which most people are stuck in. It seems to me that the test of many is in understanding the hidden world. Most people do not respect the power of thought. Many people truly put thier trustin thier emotions rather than being the master of thier emotions.
Thank you for bringing up this important topic.
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Peace be upon you,
Can the number "19" be considered as the count from 1 to 9?
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Peace be upon you,
Can the number "19" be considered as the count from 1 to 9?
Not in regular numerology. it would be 10. However. 10 (physcal) + 9 (emotion) =19 (total sum)
But even that is not fair because it should rightly be 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
Where can i find more on this? Got any good links?
Peace
Noah -
Peace Noah,
Why do you apply the following method?
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?
Nural
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Peace Noah,
Why do you apply the following method?
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?
Nural
No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
Peace
Noah -
Peace be upon you Noah,
You can see more about the understanding I presented in the books on Jewish "Kabbalah" or any of the books written by "Ra Un Nefer Amen" on the Kemetic "Tree of Life" which is where the Jews got "Kabbalah" from.
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Peace be upon you,
I would not be so quick to discount astrology, we are CERTAINLY affected by the heavenly bodies, just ask anyone who has a toothache what happens at night when the moon starts to PULL
This reading calls it a timing device and also says that all the heavenly bodies are in our service.
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Peace be upon you,
I would not be so quick to discount astrology, we are CERTAINLY affected by the heavenly bodies, just ask anyone who has a toothache what happens at night when the moon starts to PULL D
This reading calls it a timing device and also says that all the heavenly bodies are in our service.
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Astrology is rubbish.
Stars and planets and satellites can be used as timing devices, yes, but I don't see why they would have any mystical influence on our fates and lives. .
Those objects are far greater and older than us. Surely it's a bit conceited to say that they were created 'just for us'? It's like a mouse in a palace saying the lamps and lights of palace was specifically built for him/her.
fftopic
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Peace Andya,
Thats a very interesting speculation! The stars are around 13.4 Billion years older than us! We humans think we're too special.
Nural
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Peace andya
as you say astrology is rubbish.... i'm sure most of it is if you refer to daily horoscopes and other "money makers".
But astrology is also a very old science. A friend of mine is very keen on astrology and she does personal caracter studies which were quite a surprise to me, very accurate.
The moon has proven effects on the tides and also on me...full moon nights are those i nearly don't sleep - and i'm not the only one! I don't think it is necessary to pay attention to astrology or that we could use it as guidance, but as everything is interconnected, I'm sure that there is much that we ignore...
Elke
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Peace,
My sleep patterns are not perfect but I wouldn't say the moon affects it, but maybe it does, everything has a gravitational force and that is quite close to us. Also there have been no studies to disprove this. If it effects the tides then there may be a likely chance that it affects us in some way. I think it would be very hard to observe the effects it has on us because we are all different and not like the monthly tides!
Nural
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I was about to come in and say pretty much what AP said, but bro Kyle, what do you mean in terms of "Astrology" - predicting the future? - determining steps to take in life? - that they have a bearing on how things are going in our life? I was going to reject it altogether. ("astrology" pffff, of all the jibberish"...) - but then I thought perhaps a bit more opn mindedness would help. So could you please elaborate on what you consider to be aspects of astrology that you believe are useful/truthful. I don't know much about it really.
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There are many verses that we don't understand today aswell. And I'm pretty sure 7431 will apply to another kind of scenario in the future, perhaps counting 19 clouds in the sky or something like that, it will involve counting 19, but not neccessarily words in the reading. And we alive today might not even be alive for the next scenario, or maybe right now people are counting19 in something else as we speak!
salam Natu and all .
does 7431 say "count" or "counting" ?salam.
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Peace Noah,
Why do you apply the following method?
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?
Nural
No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
Noah PeacePeace