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Jesus - A Prophet, A Messenger, A Word and A Spirit from God

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    Riz
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    Ooo I really should stay out of this but I'll respond anyways.

    Pie, are you not from God? Or did appear out of nowhere? Everything and everyone is from God. You, me, Muhammad, Adam, Jesus... everyone.

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      "Say O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah. If then they turn back, say ye Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). " - Qur'an 364

      SON OF GOD - Only Jesus??

      Jacob is God's son and firstborn "Israel is my son, even my firstborn" Exodus 422.

      Solomon is God's son "He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son" 2 Samuel 713-14.

      Ephraim is God's firstborn "for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Jeremiah 319 (who is God's firstborn? Israel or Ephraim?).

      David is called the begotten son of God
      "I will declare the decree the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." - Psalms 27

      Adam is the son of God "Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 338.

      Common people (you and me) are the sons of God "Ye are the children of the LORD your God" Deuteronomy 141. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God" Romans 814. "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, to them that believe on his name" John 112. "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 215. "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God ... now are we the sons of God" 1 John 31-2. "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Job 387. "Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD," Job 21. "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD," Job 16. "when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men," Genesis 64. "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they fair" Genesis 62

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        SON OF GOD - Only Jesus??

        Thanks for those verses shuab.

        Joh 36 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit

        Adam is the son of God "Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 338.

        1Co 1545 And so it is written, The first man Adam as made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit

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          Luk 1819 Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except for one-God.

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            Salaams all,

            sooo many contraditions - how many would these people refute?????????

            Matthew
            Mark
            Luke
            John

            Who carried the cross?
            Simon of Cyrene (2731)
            Simon of Cyrene (1521)
            Simon of Cyrene (2326)
            Only Jesus himself carried the cross (1917)

            What time was Jesus crucified?
            Not mentioned
            9 a.m. Jesus died on the 3rd hour (1525)
            Not mentioned
            12 p.m. Jesus died on the 6th hour

            (1914-15)

            On which day was Jesus crucified?
            First day of Passover (2620-30)
            First day of Passover (1417-25)
            First day of Passover (2214-23)
            The day before Passover

            (1828,1914)

            Did Jesus drink on the cross
            Yes
            No
            Not mentioned
            Yes

            Did either of the thieves believe in Jesus?
            Neither believed in Jesus (2744)
            Neither believed in Jesus (1532)
            Only one thief believed in Jesus

            (2339-41)
            Not mentioned

            What were Jesus? last words?
            Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? ? My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me? (2746)
            Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? ? My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me? (1534)
            Father, in to thy hands I commend my spirit (2346)
            It is finished (1930)

            Had the sun risen when the women entered the tomb?
            It was towards dawn on the first day of the week
            Yes ? the sun had risen when they entered the tomb (161)
            At early dawn they went to the tomb (2356)
            No ? Mary came to the tomb early when it was still dark (1939)

            How many people went to the tomb Sunday morning following the crucifixion?
            Two (281)
            Three (161)
            More than four (2410)
            One (201)

            How many angels were in the tomb?
            One (282)
            One (165)
            Two (244)
            Two

            (201-2, 12)

            Does Mary wish to tell the disciples?
            Yes (28
            No (16
            Yes (249)
            Yes (201

            After seeing the angels, who does Mary see first?
            Jesus (289)
            Jesus (169)
            The disciples (244-9)
            Jesus (2014)

            Where does the post resurrection appearance take place?
            On the way to Jerusalem, after fleeing the tomb (289)
            Does not say where, but indicates after leaving the tomb (168-9)
            Emmaus (2413, 1
            At the tomb (201, 11-14)

            How many times did Jesus appear after the resurrection?
            Twice

            (289-10)

            (2817-20)
            Three times

            (169)

            (1612)

            (1614-1
            Twice

            (2413-31)

            (2436-51)
            Four times

            (2014-17)

            (2019-23)

            (2026-29)

            (211-23)

            Mark was the first of the four gospels to be written. It was written in the time for early Christians who were facing persecution. It is well known that each of the four gospel writers put their own spin on the Jesus story. Matthew seems to show the Jewish side of Jesus more than anything else, which was in aid of the Jewish wing of the early church. However, Luke came from a completely different angle, coming from the Roman view. He packaged his book full of teachings and miracles to show that any civilised Roman of that time could trust in Jesus.

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              Riz
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              shock good find mz357

              As a slight correction, it was John that shows him as the great miracle worker and tries to make him divine.

              Luke shows him to be a healer.

              Mark shows him to be a rebel.

              Mathew shows the more Jewish side as you stated.

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                So Called Errors in the Bible Explained
                http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3825

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                  So Called Errors in the Bible Explained
                  http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3825

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                    Hi mate,

                    lets have a go

                    http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3859 ?

                    Gods Blessings.

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                      thanks mz357... The So called errors you copied from a Muslim propaganda site will be researched and addressed one by one over the coming weeks and the List in the Christian Forum will be updated accordingly.

                      But try to keep to the rules of this Forum and post in the right section

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