Intepretation of 74:30-31 before Code19 ?
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Peace andya
as you say astrology is rubbish.... i'm sure most of it is if you refer to daily horoscopes and other "money makers".
But astrology is also a very old science. A friend of mine is very keen on astrology and she does personal caracter studies which were quite a surprise to me, very accurate.
The moon has proven effects on the tides and also on me...full moon nights are those i nearly don't sleep - and i'm not the only one! I don't think it is necessary to pay attention to astrology or that we could use it as guidance, but as everything is interconnected, I'm sure that there is much that we ignore...
Elke
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Peace,
My sleep patterns are not perfect but I wouldn't say the moon affects it, but maybe it does, everything has a gravitational force and that is quite close to us. Also there have been no studies to disprove this. If it effects the tides then there may be a likely chance that it affects us in some way. I think it would be very hard to observe the effects it has on us because we are all different and not like the monthly tides!
Nural
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I was about to come in and say pretty much what AP said, but bro Kyle, what do you mean in terms of "Astrology" - predicting the future? - determining steps to take in life? - that they have a bearing on how things are going in our life? I was going to reject it altogether. ("astrology" pffff, of all the jibberish"...) - but then I thought perhaps a bit more opn mindedness would help. So could you please elaborate on what you consider to be aspects of astrology that you believe are useful/truthful. I don't know much about it really.
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There are many verses that we don't understand today aswell. And I'm pretty sure 7431 will apply to another kind of scenario in the future, perhaps counting 19 clouds in the sky or something like that, it will involve counting 19, but not neccessarily words in the reading. And we alive today might not even be alive for the next scenario, or maybe right now people are counting19 in something else as we speak!
salam Natu and all .
does 7431 say "count" or "counting" ?salam.
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Peace Noah,
Why do you apply the following method?
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?
Nural
No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
Noah PeacePeace
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salam Natu and all .
does 7431 say "count" or "counting" ?Hello Saladin!
I don't know the arabic, but looking at bro Ayman's debate with Edip, it appears that is consistently translated as Count rather than counting. BTW, how come you ask?
Saladin
salam Natu
cuz you are saying that "counting" of 19 is a trial , i thought the verse said that the "count"(i.e 19) is the trail . what do u think ?'count'(i.e 19) or 'counting' ?
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Peace Noah,
Why do you apply the following method?
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?
Nural
No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
Noah PeacePeace D
Yes yes and here is how it can be used in effect.
B A H M A N
66 65 72 77 65 78 - as ASCII values
3 2 9 5 2 6 - digits added
_/ _/ _/ _/ _____/
3 2 9 5 8 - digits addedThus, "bahman" is 32958.
Turn the number backwards, subtract 1895 - the year Rudolph Hess was born. The number is now 84028.
Add 46 to it - this is the year of the Great Fire of Rome, written backwards - you will get 84074.
Subtract 2191 from the number - this is the year Theodore Roosevelt was shot, written backwards. It gives 81883.
Subtract 1531, the year Richard Roose was conveniently boiled to death for trying to poison an archbishop. The result will be 80352.
Turn the number backwards, divide by 38 - the symbol of slavery. The number is now 666.
The number 666 is the number of the Beast.
So this must conslusively prove that you are evil as sin. I guess not. You can make numbers do ANYTHING you want them to.
As for astrology im ofcourse talking about tabloid horoscopes and money makers. Lets get real. The sun makes up for 98% of known matter in our solar system if i reckall right. If that think have a hickup we will be shorched and all electrnics on earth will be toast. Altso the moon influence on gravity.
Let me tell you something cool. Jupiter have such a strong gravitational pull that whenever it gets in certain engles from the sun. it pulls the sun 4 degrees. That is some serious pulling power that planet has. I for one belive that all this talk about astroids hitting earth is crap. Because anything of a large enough size to do considerable damage would be pulled right into jupiter. I often wondered if that is why jupiter in the old days was a god who was "the protector of heavens".
Most theology on the face of the earth is based on astrology in fact. But the whole idea that our faith is somehow written in the stars. Or in numbers is totally ridiculous, and no amount of "evidence" (that are in fact just play on terms within maths itself) will ever change that.
Peace
Noah -
Peace be upon you all,
Astrology is the effect that the planetary bodies have on the earth. I have ALWAYS rejected it, until I opened my mind to it and started to really study it. I am talking about the true science of it, not some newspaper horoscope. I am talking about a astrological chart done by professionals. Also, I am discussing the SIDERAL form of astrology.
I will repeat, astrology is the effect that the planetary bodies have on the earth. For those who may have forgotten, we are created from the earth. Anyone who has toothe aches can understand how the nighttime effects the pain, or how rain effects other types of ailments. How a long stretch of days without sun brings depression, how the sunshine brings happiness. And these are small things.
I just started a class on tuesday about it, so I will be bringing a new thread about this sometime in the future, unless the God wills.
But lastly, just ponder on why the God says they heavenly bodies are subject to us. Everything serves the human being.
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Peace Noah,
Why do you apply the following method?
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=55 and 5+5 = 10 (1+0 = 1)
The +19 people apply this kind of method to 'confirm things', are you involved in that too?
Nural
No i find it to be utterly ridiculous. The same with astrology. But that however does not mean that i am ill informed about how it works, and what it means.
Noah PeacePeace D
Yes yes and here is how it can be used in effect.
B A H M A N
66 65 72 77 65 78 - as ASCII values
3 2 9 5 2 6 - digits added
_/ _/ _/ _/ _____/
3 2 9 5 8 - digits addedThus, "bahman" is 32958.
Turn the number backwards, subtract 1895 - the year Rudolph Hess was born. The number is now 84028.
Add 46 to it - this is the year of the Great Fire of Rome, written backwards - you will get 84074.
Subtract 2191 from the number - this is the year Theodore Roosevelt was shot, written backwards. It gives 81883.
Subtract 1531, the year Richard Roose was conveniently boiled to death for trying to poison an archbishop. The result will be 80352.
Turn the number backwards, divide by 38 - the symbol of slavery. The number is now 666.
The number 666 is the number of the Beast.
So this must conslusively prove that you are evil as sin. I guess not. You can make numbers do ANYTHING you want them to.
Peace.
Of course you can do that specially with this creature you can find many numbers in any field and glued together and finally reach to some result we like.. I showed you just simply such adding up and decreasing it to smaller digit is part of mathematics.
That is numerology which you are mixing human properties which I do not believe in such jumbo mombo.But I have find several patterns in Quran text patterns which with casting 9 out results in code 19 or 7.
Just watch following closely.Only in seven verses among 6346 verses is authored that seven universe and seven earths was created in 6 days.
7+54,+10+3,+11+7,+25+59,+32+4,+50+38,+57+4=361=3+6+1=10=1+0=1 7+5+4+1+0+3+1+1+7+2+5+5+9+3+2+4+5+0+3+8+5+7+4=91=9+1=10=1+0=1
http//y19.net/619-3.htmlWhen I used such method 5 years ago I had no clue why I did it., later when I used same method for code 7 I was accused using numerology.
This case caused I search and found such method is accepted as mathematic.
During my search for this post I reached to this topic.
6 letters
6 days creation in 7 verses http//y19.net/code7uni.html1+30+200+8+40+50=329= 7x47
3+2+9=14=7x2
1320084050+55=1302004105=7x186012015
1+2+0+0+4+1+0+5=14=7x2
Sura 988=19x52
Verse 2033=19x107
107+52=159* = 7x2+19x1
Sura numbers added+766
Verse number added=767
766+767=1533=7x219
7455=7x1065
55+74+30=159*
10 Jan 2004
1012004=7x144572
You see that nothing is out of Quran. Which makes this scripture unique for its superhuman self protection patterns .
You may be interested to see all
http//19.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=2088&rid=0&S=cb9e94a1c4b92855ca1273a8555ccf1b#msg_11194As for astrology im ofcourse talking about tabloid horoscopes and money makers.
I agree.
Lets get real. The sun makes up for 98% of known matter in our solar system if i reckall right. If that think have a hickup we will be shorched and all electrnics on earth will be toast. Altso the moon influence on gravity.
Agree
Let me tell you something cool. Jupiter have such a strong gravitational pull that whenever it gets in certain engles from the sun. it pulls the sun 4 degrees. That is some serious pulling power that planet has. I for one belive that all this talk about astroids hitting earth is crap. Because anything of a large enough size to do considerable damage would be pulled right into jupiter. I often wondered if that is why jupiter in the old days was a god who was "the protector of heavens".
You mean nasa information is wrong shock
http//neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/Most theology on the face of the earth is based on astrology in fact. But the whole idea that our faith is somehow written in the stars. Or in numbers is totally ridiculous, and no amount of "evidence" (that are in fact just play on terms within maths itself) will ever change that
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I agree with you but in case is claimed that book is authored by Creator of heaven and earth protected by a code then is different from name and properties of a human.
Peace bahman -
You mean nasa information is wrong Shocked
http//neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.
I think its about getting mroie money (hey look a dangerous astroid, we better shoot something at it). create a little fear in people and they will allow you to do anything to them.
As for the other stuff. look. Math is only provable within its own terms. Maths is nothing but yet another futile attempt on our behalf at understand God. Am i against math, nOt at all.. But numerology is a duck, always was, always will be. Numbers will do anything. And if you limit yourself by certain rules like only multiplying to the right etc. They are just that. you own rules, and it makes the game no different from single people cardgames.
Peace
Noah -
You mean nasa information is wrong Shocked
http//neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.
I think its about getting mroie money (hey look a dangerous astroid, we better shoot something at it). create a little fear in people and they will allow you to do anything to them.
As for the other stuff. look. Math is only provable within its own terms. Maths is nothing but yet another futile attempt on our behalf at understand God. Am i against math, nOt at all.. But numerology is a duck, always was, always will be. Numbers will do anything. And if you limit yourself by certain rules like only multiplying to the right etc. They are just that. you own rules, and it makes the game no different from single people cardgames.
Peace
NoahSalaam
Do you believe in Quran?
Peace. -
Salaam
Do you believe in Quran?
Peace.Yes i belive in what the Quran says
Peace
Noah -
Salaam
Do you believe in Quran?
Peace.Yes i belive in what the Quran says
Peace
NoahPeace
If any of them sneaks around to listen, a mighty projectile will chase him back.15-18If any of them ventures to charge the outer limits, he gets struck with a fierce projectile.3710
You get bombarded with projectiles of fire and metal, and you cannot win.
5535We adorned the lowest universe with lamps, and guarded its borders with projectiles against the devils; we prepared for them a retribution in Hell.67-5
`We touched the heaven and found it filled with formidable guards and projectiles.72-8
" `We used to sit there in order to spy. Anyone who listens is pursued by a powerful projectile.72-9
bahman
peace -
Salaam
Do you believe in Quran?
Peace.Yes i belive in what the Quran says
Peace
NoahPeace
If any of them sneaks around to listen, a mighty projectile will chase him back.15-18If any of them ventures to charge the outer limits, he gets struck with a fierce projectile.3710
You get bombarded with projectiles of fire and metal, and you cannot win.
5535We adorned the lowest universe with lamps, and guarded its borders with projectiles against the devils; we prepared for them a retribution in Hell.67-5
`We touched the heaven and found it filled with formidable guards and projectiles.72-8
" `We used to sit there in order to spy. Anyone who listens is pursued by a powerful projectile.72-9
bahman
peace????
peace
noah -
Salaam
You rejected Nasa reports
Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.
how about those verses in Quran?
Peace. -
Salaam
You rejected Nasa reports
Dont be sad. its not the first time that has happened. within the last 2 yaras i know of several fake photos produced by them. Photoshopped mars images, change of gractial pull bumbers (that can be cponfirmed from telescopes all over the world, not just Nasa is looking into the stars) so yes, not only do i think they lie, i have a good reason to.
how about those verses in Quran?
Peace.I see no connection what so ever. if youre trying to draw one, please explain.
Peace
Noah