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Qur'anic Way of Life: What kind of life is that?

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    SamiribnZafarKhan
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    Lets look at other verses that contradict those you posted

    1. Respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, color, race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and so on

    The following verses contradict the verse you gave.. in these verses you will find DISCRIMINATION based on Religion and Satatus etc

    288 Allah hath cursed them for their unbelief. Little is that which they believe.

    289 The curse of Allah is on disbelievers.

    290 They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom.

    296 And thou wilt find them greediest of mankind for life and than the idolaters.

    298 Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.

    2221 Wed not idolatresses till they believe; for lo! a believing bondwoman is better than an idolatress

    2221 for lo! a believing slave is better than an idolater

    2222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say It is an illness, so let women alone at such times

    Verse 2222 is not only scientificaly wrong, it is also discrimatory

    More Discrimination based on gender is found in 2223

    2223 Your women are a tilth for you so go to your tilth as ye will

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    I did not find a single contradiction there but I see two fallacies in your argument

    1. Reliance on English Translation; which is a feeble move to make
    2. Misunderstanding and misreplacement of the ayaat you quoted

    Most of those ayaat you quoted dealt with the 'disbelievers'. In Arabic, a disbeliever is known as a 'kafir'. Kafir comes from the word kufr and its root word is 'Ka Fa Ra' which means hiding, denying, rejecting, and covering.

    Let's say you are a teacher at class. Everytime you give a quiz and test to the class, there is this one kid that always cheats and never admits it; he denies what you saw. Does it anger you as a teacher? Obviously it does.

    The same goes with Allah and those who reject Him by denial (i.e., Kafir). They are the ones who have seen the truth but still reject it out of erroneous desires and pursuits.

    The kafir is not a single race, status, color, ethnicity, religion and so on. A kafir can be black, white, yellow etc. A kafir can be rich or poor. A kafir can be Pakistani, Arab, American, African or so on. A kafir can be Jewish, Christian, or even Muslim!

    This point that I mentioned

    1. Respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, color, race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and so on

    It must be understood in its proper context otherwise we can always change it to suit our desire. Like the Qur'an says, it can both guide and misguide people. If you want it to guide you, you must stick to its context and implication. If you want it to misguide you, then do the work of the one who denies the usage of Qur'an even though he knows how to do it.

    This ayah is saying that people should not judge individuals on their religion, color, race, sex, language, status, property, birth, profession/job and so on. We are all the Children of Adam.

    Again, none of the ayaat you quoted contradicted this ayah. The actual ayah reads as follows

    1770 Verily we have honoured the Children of Adam. We carry them on the land and the sea, and have made provision of good things for them, and have preferred them above many of those whom We created with a marked preferment.

    It's basically saying that the Children of Adam are on the same boat. Another ayah which is more direct on this issue is as follows

    4913 O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

    You will never find a better universal human declaration than this one ayah of Qur'an.

    Samir

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      unknownuser
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      hi samir,

      what do u mean by sunnah?
      i am of the understanding that in Quran Allah commands us to follow the Holy book alone, which will remain uncorrupted because of His grace.

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        unknownuser
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        and yeah, i agree with all the teachings of Quran u mentioned.

        it kind of sums up what Allah expects from us, human beings.

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          SamiribnZafarKhan
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          hi samir,

          what do u mean by sunnah?
          i am of the understanding that in Quran Allah commands us to follow the Holy book alone, which will remain uncorrupted because of His grace.

          You are right that He orders us to follow the Holy Qur'an alone (i.e., not following the previous scriptures). And yes, it will remain uncorrupted. The Sunnah includes the sayings, commentaries, actions, agreements, and strategies of Prophet Muhammad (saw), and the Sahaba.

          Samir

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            Jaxal
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            And yes, it will remain uncorrupted

            You need to climb out of the hole you are in. Quran has been altered and changed.

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              zenje
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              Peaceful muslim,

              First, Welcome to the board. ) Please feel free to venture through the various categories, and also the main site - www.free-minds.org.

              what do u mean by sunnah?
              i am of the understanding that in Quran Allah commands us to follow the Holy book alone, which will remain uncorrupted because of His grace.
              Just to let you know, we have a members of different faiths/beliefs, so don't be surprised when some claim you have to follow traditional hadith, or others who believe that jesus is god.

              Hope that helps,

              Peace.

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                TheNabi
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                Salaam Samir,

                The Sunnah includes the sayings, commentaries, actions, agreements, and strategies of Prophet Muhammad (saw), and the Sahaba.

                The quran contains the teachings of Allah which explains the straight path, shows us exemplary actions , how we should keep to our contracts and what we should do be there breaches therein. It devises the sought after struggle.

                Joe

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                  unknownuser
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                  hi samir,
                  so u do agree it is Quran alone that we need to follow, in our lives?
                  what is the sunnah for, then?
                  the prophet Mohammed(pbuh) was a messenger of God and the message was Quran.
                  so, then, why should the prophet's life and sayings other than the Quran be followed, by the believers of Allah? is there a mention in Quran by God, asking us to copy the prophet's way of life?

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                    unknownuser
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                    hi zenje,
                    thank u for the warm welcome.
                    i have been reading over the site and some of the forums too.

                    the fact that people(of different faiths) are ready to open up and discuss their religion and views is whats nice about this site.
                    the majority of muslims follow their elders blindly coz they fear God(coz they are taught He might throw them in Hell). Quran doesnt tell us to practice blind beliefs and practices. Quran tells us to use our common sense and knowledge.

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                      unknownuser
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                      SamiribnZafarKhan wrote

                      You are right that He orders us to follow the Holy Qur'an alone (i.e., not following the previous scriptures)

                      do u mean that the Previous scriptures are not to be respected and considered as messages from Allah. Doesnt He authorise/ confirm that the previous scriptures were from Him, in Quran?

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                        Jaxal
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                        You are right that He orders us to follow the Holy Qur'an alone (i.e., not following the previous scriptures)

                        That shows your pathetic knowledge in the Quran. What kind of a sunni are you Samir? disgrace..

                        Anyways, the Quran clearly mentions to refer to the previous scripture when in doubt about something. God asks us to follow the truth. God also says there is truth in the previous scriptures.

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                          sultana
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                          The Quranic Way of Life

                          Do not Follow the Majority Way of Life for if you read Quran we see a life of total contradiction to the life of the world. You might even be driven to the point of death in the course to become shaheedis.

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