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New Article - Pilgrimage

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Pilgrimage (Hajj)
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  • LaythL Offline
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    Layth
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    Peace all,

    I have uploaded a new artcile on the Mecca/Baka/Pilgrimage issue.

    This article supercedes my previous thoughts/writings on the subject...

    http//www.free-minds.org/articles/quranic/hajj.htm

    May God assist us in finding our way.

    Layth

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      Nural_Amin
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      Peace,

      I think at this moment in time, the place in Jerusalem does fit, if in the future it doesn't then we seek alternatives or establish others. And also if another race occupy it then of course we cannot oppress them and force them to leave.

      But I think Layth is right in saying that the Jerusalem one fits, why would that change? Isn't Jerusalem a place with a lot of history and resources? Alot of Scriptures and museums? Jewish people and Christians and Muslims could unite there and talk about God's system and share their understandings.

      I also agree that we should not go far away places to visit rocks, but this would be a different purpose and a righteous reason and Jerusalem would be a good place but maybe alternatives would be safer, peace is always the most important thing.

      I am posting on this now, I realise this is an old thread, is this knowledge out dated, have others come to a superior understanding? Has Layth's and Ayman's positions changed regarding this issue?

      Nural

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        SwedenMajidah
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        Salaam all,

        Yes I also wonder if your understanding still stands!????

        Peace
        Sis Majidah

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          mo_mentum
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          In regards to the ruins of Sodom and Gomorr. Arab traders would necessarily pass by there on their way to Al-Sham (Syria) on their trade routes. The prophet was a merchant that went often to Syria on those very same routes and that could what the ayats are referring to as the ruins. They don't need to be in proximity of Arabia.

          But on a different note guys. It seems to me COMPLETELY ridiculous for anyone to have changed the place of Pilgrimmage of the Prophet if people were doing it with him while he was alive. It would be one hell a feat to do the switch.

          So are you saying that the prophet didn't actually live in Mecca/Medina?! Are you ignoring 1400 years of recorded history of the expansion of Muslim empires centered in Arabia? Again, Muhammad (pbuh) lived in the full light of history, its quite a feat to have so many details about his life distorted so easily and fooling millions of his followers overnight.

          For such a trick to be pulled, you'd need a gigantic propaganda machine and institution, which simply didn't exist at the time. And we know that Muslims have been practicing Hajj to Mecca since day 1. And since Islam spread so fast, it would be hard to believe that they were able to twist the forms/functions designated by the prophet without having the closest of his companions realizing what was going on. Maybe we're dreaming up of conspiracies here? Let's focus on Illuminati/NWO when it comes to conspiracies

          It's my impresion the Qibla was changed to set us apart from the Huda and Nassarah in the first place. Plus, it is known that the Jewish tribes were in Mecca and Medina because they were expecting the coming of a prophet in that area as per there own Scripture/Prophecies.

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