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    TheNabi
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    Jaxal,

    I have not once said that. Whose missing the point now?

    Yes, you have stated such a thing. Jaxal do you believe you should get your hands cut off?

    I used to steal.

    You have openly admitted to stealing. When will you report yourself to the authorities and endure the rightful punishment you deserve?

    i beleived that the supermaket was being unfair by charging that much price for it. So i decided to steal and share it ith those who couldnt afford it. Like robin hood.

    You say you steal because of unfair prices and to share with those who have none.

    1 - You were stealing things people could live without .

    2 - Does Allah condone stealing from the rich to give to the poor?

    3 - You say cutting hands is "a puinishment for those like to stone monkeys". What about those who shoot others for denouncing islam or saying that people can leave islam? What makes the monkey stoner different from the sharp shooter?

    Joe

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      KGB
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      Hi PeacefulMuslim

      I will accept the verses at present time too. I am not intelligent enough or have all the knowledge to call God laws cruel. Again you did not read the implementing these punishments.

      Do I have to post the Tafseer for everything I post?

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        unknownuser
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        hi 2pac,

        Gods laws are clear in the Quran and are part of the literal verses as God stated and should not be taken metaphorically but literally. The Quran is for past present and future so your idea of making rules up ourself for this age is not supported by Quran at all.

        appropriate?

        492 Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due) If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running by way of repentance to Allah. for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom.

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          unknownuser
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          hi KGB,

          I will accept the verses at present time too.

          ok.

          Again you did not read the implementing these punishments

          i did. i understand what u r stating.

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            Prince
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            Hi PeacefulMuslim

            I will accept the verses at present time too. I am not intelligent enough or have all the knowledge to call God laws cruel.

            I respect your opinion and decision but keep developing yourself by reading and studying the Quran. It's not as hard as it is as people will tell you but takes time and I'm still learning )

            PEACE

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              Jaxal
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              Joe have i ever judged you? EVER? to the best of my knowledge, i have never judged you. You on the other hand jump on the band wagon to judge me. Why? Do you hold something against me?

              Yes, you have stated such a thing.

              No... go back and read what i posted. As i said before, its like you just skip over my post with an already pre determined judgment against me. This much is clear from all your posts towards me. Do this. Go back to the thread and quote ME saying that i will shoot him coz he renounced islam. if you cant, then just Shhhhhhhhhh. dont embarass urself further.

              You have openly admitted to stealing. When will you report yourself to the authorities and endure the rightful punishment you deserve?

              Why would you do the same? rotfl

              I asked you this before but perhaps you were too embarassed to answer me. Have you lived every second of your life according to the Quran? Have you never ever made a wrong choice? ever made a mistake? like a fool you open your mouth and close your eyes. Telling me about my deeds. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH rotfl rotfl rotfl like you have never made a mistake or a wrong choice rotfl rotfl rotfl

              Judge not, as you shall be judged, by God.

              BTW KGB, since you talk about lack of intelligence, i suggest you read the thread by saladin and marie and put your intelligence to some use, since you think that you are the only one on this forum with any intelligence whatsoever. wink

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                TheNabi
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                Peace,

                It's a pity how you cannot answer a question with a clear answer. Instead you tend to blab on about what other people would do.

                Joe

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                  TheNabi
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                  Peace,

                  Judge not, as you shall be judged, by God.

                  All things will be taken into account. I do not believe in this mumbo jumbo you're talking about.

                  Joe

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                    Jaxal
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                    I swear Joe, what is wrong with you? you used to be soo good. but now its like you open your mouth and garbage comes out. Since you skipped my post ONCE AGAIN roll , I will repeat what i asked you and this time in large font. QUOTE ME WHERE I SAID SOMEONE WHO LEAVES ISLAM SHOULD BE SHOT. QUOTE ME!!!!. There, that cant be hard to miss wink

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                      TheNabi
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                      Jaxal,

                      Still not answering my questions are you?

                      Also I said "you have". It does not mean on this thread it can be any thread. You have stated such things. If I said you have stated it on this thread that would be one thing. I said "you have stated such a thing". I even highlighted the word have in that post of mine so you would be aware of the sentence structure. Still you misunderstand what people write most likely because you do not read what is being said. Please answer my questions, I do not need to see you asking me a bunch of stuff.

                      Joe

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                        KGB
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                        BTW KGB, since you talk about lack of intelligence, i suggest you read the thread by saladin and marie and put your intelligence to some use, since you think that you are the only one on this forum with any intelligence whatsoever.

                        lol

                        I never said anything like this ever.

                        I will accept the verses at present time too. I am not intelligent enough or have all the knowledge to call God laws cruel.

                        This is what I said. The problem with me is I stand for what is right according to the Book and say it loud and clear. I am not dipolomat and I am not politician. So don't expect dipolomacy or spining the issues to satisfy my ego. The truth always is bitter but it is good to speak truth. God will be my judge on the day of judgement.

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                          Jaxal
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                          BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                          OK OK. rotfl . QUOTE ME FROM THE THREAD YOU ARE REFERRING TO. QUOTE ME SAYING THAT THE ONE WHO LEAVES ISLAM SHOULD BE SHOT. JOE I DARE YOU. QUOTE ME SAYING THAT. rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                          I do not need to see you asking me a bunch of stuff

                          And yet you ask me to report myself to the authorities???? WTFFFFFF rotfl . Why are you telling me something YOU YOURSELF wont do?????? rotfl rotfl

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                            savage_carrot
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                            Peace KGB

                            After following your posts on different threads when you say

                            I am not dipolomat and I am not politician. So don't expect dipolomacy or spining the issues to satisfy my ego.

                            I can agree with this. In fact I wish more people could do that and be to the point, or learn how to read lol

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                              savage_carrot
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                              Peace Joe,

                              Is there a rule for posting psychedelic smilies in patterns that mess with your head?

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                                TheNabi
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                                Salaam Jaxal,

                                I see you are confusing the words denouncing and renouncing. When someone denounces something they make an accusation. The man who wrote the article said people could leave islam. You said he should be shot for that, i.e. dounouncing islam. If I would have said you said renouncing, i.e. giving up, you would have corrected me. Apparently your command of english is not so sharp.

                                Joe

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                                  Jaxal
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                                  So after all that drama, you cant quote me saying what you accuse me of saying? tsk tsk tsk. bad joe. bad bad joe. Dont you know what the Quran says about people who wrongfully accuse others?

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                                    TheNabi
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                                    Peace Nadia,

                                    Is there a rule for posting psychedelic smilies in patterns that mess with your head?

                                    No, not really. However, it appears people do such things when they have no understanding of what is going on. Clearly Jaxal equates denouncing with renouncing. They are too different words. Renouncing is what he thinks I'm saying, when I said denouncing all along. Goes to show what happens when people do not pay attention and do not make an effort to look up words they do not understand.

                                    Joe

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                                      TheNabi
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                                      Jaxal,

                                      This thread is not about what you said elsewhere. You're making it the issue. I'm only asking that you answer my questions pertaining to your thievery and the punishment for thieves in alquran.

                                      Joe

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                                        KGB
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                                        Peace be upon you Nadia.

                                        Jaxal read the tread on Current Affairs. It was regarding some Afghan Editor.

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                                          Jaxal
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                                          SaLaM Joe

                                          Look brother, you accused me of saying that people who denounce their faith should be shot. I have not said that, altho if i were a sunni, i would have no problem with it. but anyways, what that guy was doing is not denouncing. Perhaps you should choose your words wisely. Lets see what denouncing means

                                          Denouncing

                                          1. To condemn openly as being evil or reprehensible. See Synonyms at criticize.
                                          2. To accuse formally.
                                          3. To give formal announcement of the ending of (a treaty).

                                          If that editor or jounralist was condemming islam to be evil, then he would be dead right now. You and i both know that. He wasnt accusing it, we know that too. And he wasnt announcing tht he is ending his belief as a muslim ( that is IF he was a muslim in the first place ). What he was doing is in a way preaching to others that it is OK to leave submission to Allah. So you see, it is you who is responsible for your own embarassment. Your fault. Not mine.

                                          This thread is not about what you said elsewhere.

                                          You are such a hypocrite. Then why did you bring what i said in the other thread up IN THIS THREAD in the first place?

                                          You're making it the issue.

                                          No.. YOU are making it an issue. I didnt even mention it until you brought this up.

                                          I'm only asking that you answer my questions pertaining to your thievery

                                          And im asking you if you would do the same. And im asking you if you have ever commited a crime, a mistake, made a wrong choice, didnt live your life according to the Quran? You dont answer me. Yet you expect an answer from me. why is that?

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