How Many Wives, can You have according to Quran?
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Well, I suppose so, if the man can not exsist on his own, without a woman's support.(which i see clearly as impossible)
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Well, I suppose so
I will assume that is not 'complete agreement'. Do you feel the same way about a man marrying more than 1 woman 1400 years ago? Or do you completely agree with that?
Jaxal, it is a complete agreement. But the reason I said 'I suppose so' coz I dont see all of that happening. ) It sounds purely hypothetical. Though the idea does sound weird.)
And I am not in favour of polygamy at all. But I suppose, those days, there was no other way out.
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Allah says in Quran You will never be able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire.
So how many women can you marry despite the above clear warning?
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Let us see what you have to say in your earlier post
well, I'm not going to be side tracked with a story that happened about 1400 years ago when humans had close to nill compared to what we have today, just forget the past unless it is related to a verse in the Quran you want to discuss, I don't think that Aysha marriage to the great prophet was discussed in the Quran
Humans had close to nill?? Amazing, you follow a Book that is 1400 hundred years old which was revealed through a Human,
Look don't manipulate my words, I don't have to be that specific, I mean technology
got it?
but you think to the persons for whom it was revealed were close to nil.
yep they had nothing just a few donkeys and camels as a method of transporation and sure they managed to design a few cloths and a few swords
what else you reckon they had, of yeh they built tents
Besides have you ever heared the names of great greek philosphers, the roman poets etc. I think not, otherwise you would have not compared the ancient people with Nil.
the philosphers for are a bunch of confused atheists and bound to Hell
Related to a verse in the Quran?
I think I got engaged with the wrong person!you should bail out then
How many verses do you need to be pointed out to you which deal with wives and lives of the marriage life of Prophet?
what is the point from your question?, I'm not talking about the prophet marriages in here, prophets are dealt diffently by God, unlike me and you
it seems it is the only option.....
a muslim man can marry up to four wives.....
Allah advises us to marry only one wife
These all are your quotes so what is Final according to your opnion
- One wife?
- Up to four wives?
- One wife and and up to four widows with kids?
- One wife and Slaves who are captured during war?
- One wife at a time up to four?
again trying to be smart and manipulate my words
- One wife?
if a 100% submitter and adhere to Allah advice to marry on one 43
2. Up to four wives?- One wife and and up to four widows with kids?
where the hell you got this from? the above is a contasictory in one sentence
well if the husband didnlt care about point 1, then they can marry up to 4 BUT ONLY WITH ORPHANS
- One wife and Slaves who are captured during war?
again you are a very good manipulator, i donlt know whyu I'm responding to you actyually but let's see
I never talked about slaves, I don't see the Quran ever talking about marrying slaves
- One wife at a time up to four?
never said that
I think you are confused and trying to make others confuse.
oh yeh like many confused and horny muslim men who deceive their wives and treat them like sex objects and marry even for sex
you are the one that is highly confused, you didn't even offer your understanding to verse 43
now please tell us your insight about 43, possibly you can convince a confused muslim like me
a silly question and I decline to answer it
Well I don't know who is silly here?
if you don't know know, then let me tell you it is you wink
look mister quran know it all, I did not accuse you of not reading the Quran because i don't know you, so please don't commit this childish crap and accuse me as such because you don't know me
Well I am starting to know you now.
cool, but possibly I don't want to know you? please consider it as a possiblity
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the solution is very simple
if any man wants to marry more than one, go for it
if any woman wants to marry more than one, go for it (I reckon it will be a hard task to find husbands that allow to share their wives, but good luck any way)
I'm a man who married one and will only marry one at a time in my life as the Quran told me
"If you fear not to be just between the wives then MARRY ONLY ONE",
and I declare that I'm one of those men who fear NOT TO BE JUST BETWEEN THE WIVES so I chose to marry only ONE, I recognised that the Quran also said "We can not be just between the wives even if it was our desire" and really Allah has summed it up beautifully
peace to all
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the solution is very simple
if any man wants to marry more than one, go for it
if any woman wants to marry more than one, go for it (I reckon it will be a hard task to find husbands that allow to share their wives, but good luck any way)
I'm a man who married one and will only marry one at a time in my life as the Quran told me
"If you fear not to be just between the wives then MARRY ONLY ONE",
and I declare that I'm one of those men who fear NOT TO BE JUST BETWEEN THE WIVES so I chose to marry only ONE, I recognised that the Quran also said "We can not be just between the wives even if it was our desire" and really Allah has summed it up beautifully
Well said, AhmedBahgat.
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Salaam Ahmed,
you wroteif any woman wants to marry more than one, go for it (I reckon it will be a hard task to find husbands that allow to share their wives, but good luck any way)
Yeah right but poor women must share their husband!? shock
One partner at a time is the way we should go then no jelousy will occur because that can kill the relationship.
Peace Sis Majidah
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Salam
I want to know, what if the first wife objects to her husband marrying again?
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The above should fall under "not being fair between the wives", I believe if he ignored her rejection "then he already started the process by not being fair", consequently she is entitled to seek divorce under Islamic laws if he insist to marry
if you remember the verse 43 "If you fear not to be just between the women then marry one"
now under the circumstance you described, if the husband ignored his first wife plea not to marry, then we are dealing with a man who is not even fearing to be unjust rather he delibertly and intensionaly seeking unjust, and this should entitle the first wife to seek divorce
And finally I believe the second, third and fourth wives MUST have children to care for"no father is there to support them and their struggling mother" and if this is not the case, then the first wife should have another good and lawful reason to seek divorce
Allah knows best
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Salaam Ahmed,
you wroteif any woman wants to marry more than one, go for it (I reckon it will be a hard task to find husbands that allow to share their wives, but good luck any way)
Salam sister
Yeah right but poor women must share their husband!? shock
I never suggested that, but you are right, and I beleive the unfairness, flaw, and deception in the Islamic world are causing this to happen unfortuantlly
One partner at a time is the way we should go then no jelousy will occur because that can kill the relationship.
Peace Sis Majidah
That's the way sister, sounds very reasonable to me and surely is the most compatible understanding with the Quran "If you fear not to be just with women, then marry one", "you will not be able to be fair with women even if it was your strongest desire to be fair"
Conclusion
True and sincere Muslims men "100% True submitters to Allah laws" should marry only one according to the clear Arabic Quran
Peace sister
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Salaam Br Ahmed,
Yes, I agree
Sounds very true and intelligent for a believer in Allah and his scripture.
Peace Sis Majidah
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Hi all,
Polygamy is just one other issue that men of today abuse, to satisfy Lust.
Its sad, God's just ways are so abused by people claiming to be His believers. ( -
Peace,
Polygamy is just one other issue that men of today abuse, to satisfy Lust.
Its sad, God's just ways are so abused by people claiming to be His believers.Though men have always been considered the forefront of such chauvinism, women are not too far behind in such trade-offs, specially in western societies. As a matter of fact, women excel men in many areas of gender superiority, don't you think?
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Hi Danish,
Peace,
Polygamy is just one other issue that men of today abuse, to satisfy Lust.
Its sad, God's just ways are so abused by people claiming to be His believers.Though men have always been considered the forefront of such chauvinism, women are not too far behind in such trade-offs, specially in western societies. As a matter of fact, women excel men in many areas of gender superiority, don't you think?
Care to explain a little bit more? Are u talking of feminism?
Shall reply once I understand what exactly u mean.
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Hello Peacefulmuslim,
Hi Danish,
Peace,
Polygamy is just one other issue that men of today abuse, to satisfy Lust.
Its sad, God's just ways are so abused by people claiming to be His believers. (Though men have always been considered the forefront of such chauvinism, women are not too far behind in such trade-offs, specially in western societies. As a matter of fact, women excel men in many areas of gender superiority, don't you think?
Care to explain a little bit more? Are u talking of feminism?
Shall reply once I understand what exactly u mean.
Peace!Certainly. Although polyandry, as with polygamy, as rare as it is, does exists in some parts of the world, my intent was poised towards extra-marital and pre-marital affairs by both genders.
Speaking of women excelling men in certain trades, prostitution is one.
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Hi Danish,
Though men have always been considered the forefront of such chauvinism, women are not too far behind in such trade-offs, specially in western societies. As a matter of fact, women excel men in many areas of gender superiority, don't you think?
Care to explain a little bit more? Are u talking of feminism?
Shall reply once I understand what exactly u mean.
Peace!Certainly. Although polyandry, as with polygamy, as rare as it is, does exists in some parts of the world, my intent was poised towards extra-marital and pre-marital affairs by both genders.
Speaking of women excelling men in certain trades, prostitution is one.Well, am not very aware of 'polyandry' in today's society,except propably among some tribals. Though such customs did exsist earlier among the idolators and the others, in a larger magnitude.
When natural animal instincts of man takes precedence over his sense/values/morals, there will be all kind of sexual affairs(due to lust),violence(due to hatred,arrogance).........etc.
I do accept extra-marital and pre-marital affiars(both men and women being responsible for it) driven by lust, pressure or whatever the reason, are very common in todays society. But then, they dont mix the concept with religion, Do they?
Do they claim that christianity allows and promotes 'pre-marital affairs' or 'extra-marital affairs' like our muslim guys(in the polygamy issue)do? They would propably reply 'yeah, God wont like this but big deal?'
Our men(the muslim ones) claim God permits Polygamy with out any conditions and treat women like sluts. Now how demeaning is that, to say they r following God's directions while doing horrid stuff?And as for prostitution, its one profession which survives only becoz men want it to. Think about it. If all men decide that they wouldnt ever want a prostitute, would there be prostitution? Again prostitution exsists mainly becoz of the gender inequality and not gender superiority by women.
I would say feminism would be a demand of equality of genders(where and when, women are dominated/discriminated by men) rather than gender superiority. Men and women are different and cant be compared in each and every aspect. But at the same time, woman/men are as human as the other sex.
Women arent demanding superiority over men. Just equality. When there exsists no chauvinism, there wont be any need for feminism.
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Hello peacefulmuslim,
Well, am not very aware of 'polyandry' in today's society,except propably among some tribals. Though such customs did exsist earlier among the idolators and the others, in a larger magnitude.
As mentioned earlier, polyandry does exist in today?s society, whether tribal or not, though not relevantly exposed, widespread and talked about. If you are not much aware, then I would recommend Google search for the word ?polyandry? and find out for yourself.
When natural animal instincts of man takes precedence over his sense/values/morals, there will all kind of sexual affairs(due to lust),violence(due to hatred,arrogance).........etc.
There are ethical and rightful ways to control ones animal instincts and inexcusable behavioral patterns to inhibit sexual affairs and violence are unprecedented/abnormal.
I do accept extra-marital and pre-marital affiars driven by lust, pressure or whatever the reason, are very common in todays society. But then, they dont mix the concept with religion, Do they?
I don?t believe in ?religious dogmatic doctrines?, thus mixing up concepts don?t apply to me. Just because it?s common in today?s society doesn?t make it right. Polygamy is accepted in middle-eastern and other Muslim countries as common in society. Prostitution, lesbianism, gayism and other licentious behaviour are also common in society throughout the world. Why feel disgusted towards polygamy when you can accept extra-marital/pre-marital affairs? Given the choice between the two and looking at it realistically, polygamy would be considered a far better choice over the other, simply because the consequences of the latter are found to be devastating and sometimes deadly.
Do they claim that christianity allows and promotes 'pre-marital affairs' or 'extra-marital affairs' like our muslim guys(in the polygamy issue)do? They would propably reply 'yeah, God wont like this but big deal?'
There are a small percentage of polygamists in the entire Muslim World compared to monogamous relations within the same jurisdiction, most of whom you?ll find in some of the middle-eastern countries. Pre-marital and extra-marital affairs are quite prevalent and common in western (?Christian?) and non-Muslim societies. The demographics of divorces, HIV?s, violence, lusts/lewdness, prostitutions, lesbianism/gayism, child molestations/pornography, etc., are quite inherent and widespread as clearly witnessed in such societies more so than Muslim societies/countries.
Our men(the muslim ones) claim God permits Polygamy with out any conditions and treat women like sluts. Now how demeaning is that, to say they r following God's directions while doing horrid stuff?
FYI, polygamy doesn?t make women sluts, in which case, all are married to one man. Prostitution, nymphomaniacs and extra-marital encounters are some of the terms defining a slut.
And as for prostitution, its one profession which survives only becoz men want it to. Think about it. If all men decide that they wouldnt ever want a prostitute, would there be prostitution? Again prostitution exsists mainly becoz of the gender inequality and not gender superiority by women.
Hmmm? ?only becoz men want it to???? That?s baloney. I believe the women is blamed for selling their bodies and provoking men (both single and married) out of sheer lust for financial greed by advocating sex drives and pornography, thereby not only destroying themselves by disobedience and health issues, but soliciting menace on single men, married lives and destroying families and setting bad examples for other girls and men of chance who support and join in. Such women are a disgrace to society. What a profession??? Even men have gotten involved in benefiting such trades to become pimps for their selfish drives, not to mention brothels, hotel rooms and their own private homes.
I would say feminism would be a demand of equality of genders(where and when, women are dominated/discriminated by men) rather than gender superiority. Men and women are different and cant be compared in each and every aspect. But at the same time, woman/men are as human as the other sex.
If men and women are different and can?t be compared in each and every aspect, then there exists gender superiority, an imbalance or inequality. Female whores by far outweigh gigolos, in number and trade, hence the gender superiority/inequality.
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Ahmad wrote
if you remember the verse 43 "If you fear not to be just between the women then marry one"
You and other friends inspired by westeren propoganda think that "to marry more than one is harsh to women" and at the same time you want to be the "best" follower and interpreter of Quran.
But doing so you all forget the Verses regarding slaves and captives.
You have ignored the core point in my previous posts.Quran advises us to marry one but never makes a restriction on the number (upper limit 4).
Many of the Prophet's companions married more than one, Why?Let me try to explain it by an example
I think I can be fair between more than one woman, therfore according to your interpretation of Quran I can marry more than one; simple any one can,
and the question is upto how many???I think I could not make my question simpler than this?
Ahmed and others waiting for your replies, but Dear Ahmed don't behave like a teenager; try to understand the question and than answer it with proper backing.