What happens to us In BARZAKH? The Insteresting Story of Prophet Moses..
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Peace Brothers and sisters..
I found some verses which might be telling about what happens just after Death to our Nafs.. The Story of Prophet Moses told in the Chapter 1860 might be telling our state of Affair just after Death.. The Verse says that Prophet Moses reached the Junction of the Two Bahrain.. Which I understand might mean the death of Prophet Moses..
So that what happens after reaching the junction is all detailed below. the Servant of Allah that Prophet moses meet might be a Malaika..
Read further the Ayats which points to it.. Below are all the references to the Baharain and Barzaq given in Quran. As obtained from openburhanAyats about Bahrain and Barzaq (The Two Seas And the Partition)
Wa-ith qala moosa lifatahula abrahu hatta ablugha majmaAAa albahrayniaw amdiya huqubanBehold, Moses said to his attendant, "I will not give up until I reach the junction of the two seas or (until) I spend years and years in travel."
LaAAallee aAAmalu salihanfeema taraktu kalla innaha kalimatun huwa qa-iluhawamin wara-ihim barzakhun ila yawmi yubAAathoona
"In order that I may work righteousness in the things I neglected." - "By no means! It is but a word he says."- Before them is a Partition till the Day they are raised up.
Wahuwa allathee maraja albahraynihatha AAathbun furatun wahatha milhunojajun wajaAAala baynahuma barzakhan wahijranmahjooran
It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.
Amman jaAAala al-arda qararanwajaAAala khilalaha anharan wajaAAala laharawasiya wajaAAala bayna albahrayni hajizana-ilahun maAAa Allahi bal aktharuhum layaAAlamoona
Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides Allah? Nay, most of them know not.
Maraja albahrayni yaltaqiyani
He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting together
Baynahuma barzakhun la yabghiyani
Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress
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Peace Brothers and Sisters..
When I was reading about the Story narrated in 1860 it striked me that the Two seas must be the The Present World and the Here After...
The Present World =>> Salt and Bitter
The Here After =>> Sweet and Palatable..The Partition Barzakh can be Possibly the Partition between the Two Worlds.. where we will stay till the Day of Raising according to 23100
So coming back to 1860
Wa-ith qala moosa lifatahula abrahu hatta ablugha majmaAAa albahrayniaw amdiya huqubanBehold, Moses said to his attendant, "I will not give up until I reach the junction of the two seas or (until) I spend years and years in travel."
Does this verse Refer to The Death of Prophet Moses??
Spending years and years in Travel?? If he does not die the Second time???
Falamma balagha majmaAAabaynihima nasiya hootahuma faittakhathasabeelahu fee albahri sarabanBut when they reached the Junction, they forgot (about) their Fish, which took its course through the sea (straight) as in a tunnel.
After Death??Falamma jawaza qalalifatahu atina ghadaana laqadlaqeena min safarina hatha nasaban
When they had passed on (some distance), Moses said to his attendant "Bring us our early meal; truly we have suffered much fatigue at this (stage of) our journey."
Qala araayta ith awaynaila alssakhrati fa-innee naseetu alhootawama ansaneehu illa alshshaytanuan athkurahu waittakhatha sabeelahu fee albahriAAajaban
He replied "Sawest thou (what happened) when we betook ourselves to the rock? I did indeed forget (about) the Fish none but Satan made me forget to tell (you) about it it took its course through the sea in a marvellous way!"
What about the Question about Meals..?? No Meals there???Qala thalika ma kunnanabghi fairtadda AAala atharihimaqasasan
Moses said "That was what we were seeking after" So they went back on their footsteps, following (the path they had come).
Seeking the Straight Path?? What is the Fish? The Rooh??Fawajada AAabdan min AAibadinaataynahu rahmatan min AAindinawaAAallamnahu min ladunna AAilman
So they found one of Our servants, on whom We had bestowed Mercy from Ourselves and whom We had taught knowledge from Our own Presence.
A Malak Who has been taught more knowledge??Qala lahu moosa halattabiAAuka AAala an tuAAallimani mimma AAullimtarushdan
Moses said to him "May I follow thee, on the footing that thou teach me something of the (Higher) Truth which thou hast been taught?"
Qala innaka lan tastateeAAamaAAiya sabran
(The other) said "Verily thou wilt not be able to have patience with me!"
Wakayfa tasbiru AAala malam tuhit bihi khubran
"And how canst thou have patience about things about which thy understanding is not complete?"
Incomplete understanding of Human Beings?Qala satajidunee in shaa Allahusabiran wala aAAsee laka amran
Moses said "Thou wilt find me, if Allah so will, (truly) patient nor shall I disobey thee in aught."
Qala fa-ini ittabaAAtanee falatas-alnee AAan shay-in hatta ohditha lakaminhu thikran
The other said "If then thou wouldst follow me, ask me no questions about anything until I myself speak to thee concerning it."
Faintalaqa hattaitha rakiba fee alssafeenati kharaqahaqala akharaqtaha litughriqa ahlaha laqadji/ta shay-an imran
So they both proceeded until, when they were in the boat, he scuttled it. Said Moses "Hast thou scuttled it in order to drown those in it? Truly a strange thing hast thou done!"
Prophet Moses forgetting to keep his word??? Was it beacuse he was in a Dream as though he was sleeping? Death is compared to Sleep in some Verse.. I dont remember the Verse Number. anybody please Qoute..Qala alam aqul innaka lan tastateeAAamaAAiya sabran
He answered "Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?"
Qala la tu-akhithneebima naseetu wala turhiqnee min amree AAusran
Moses said "Rebuke me not for forgetting, nor grieve me by raising difficulties in my case."
Faintalaqa hattaitha laqiya ghulaman faqatalahu qalaaqatalta nafsan zakiyyatan bighayri nafsin laqad ji/ta shay-annukran
Then they proceeded until, when they met a young man, he slew him. Moses said "Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard of) thing hast thou done!"
The Malak of Allah executing the Order of Death from Allah.. according to the Prewritten record??
Who else is permitted to take the Soul of a Person?Qala alam aqul laka innaka lan tastateeAAamaAAiya sabran
He answered "Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?"
Qala in saaltuka AAan shay-in baAAdahafala tusahibnee qad balaghta min ladunnee AAuthran
(Moses) said "If ever I ask thee about anything after this, keep me not in thy company then wouldst thou have received (full) excuse from my side."
Faintalaqa hattaitha ataya ahla qaryatin istatAAamaahlaha faabaw an yudayyifoohuma fawajadafeeha jidaran yureedu an yanqadda faaqamahuqala law shi/ta laittakhathta AAalayhi ajran
Then they proceeded until, when they came to the inhabitants of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused them hospitality. They found there a wall on the point of falling down, but he set it up straight. (Moses) said "If thou hadst wished, surely thou couldst have exacted some recompense for it!"
Qala hatha firaqubaynee wabaynika saonabbi-oka bita/weeli ma lam tastatiAAAAalayhi sabran
He answered "This is the parting between me and thee now will I tell thee the interpretation of (those things) over which thou wast unable to hold patience.
Amma alssafeenatu fakanatlimasakeena yaAAmaloona fee albahri faaradtu anaAAeebaha wakana waraahum malikun ya/khuthukulla safeenatin ghasban
"As for the boat, it belonged to certain men in dire want they plied on the water I but wished to render it unserviceable, for there was after them a certain king who seized on every boat by force.
Waamma alghulamu fakanaabawahu mu/minayni fakhasheena an yurhiqahumatughyanan wakufran
"As for the youth, his parents were people of Faith, and we feared that he would grieve them by obstinate rebellion and ingratitude (to Allah and man).
Faaradna an yubdilahumarabbuhuma khayran minhu zakatan waaqraba ruhman
"So we desired that their Lord would give them in exchange (a son) better in purity (of conduct) and closer in affection.
Waamma aljidaru fakanalighulamayni yateemayni fee almadeenati wakana tahtahukanzun lahuma wakana aboohuma salihanfaarada rabbuka an yablugha ashuddahumawayastakhrija kanzahuma rahmatan min rabbikawama faAAaltuhu AAan amree thalika ta/weelu malam tastiAA AAalayhi sabran
"As for the wall, it belonged to two youths, orphans, in the Town; there was, beneath it, a buried treasure, to which they were entitled their father had been a righteous man So thy Lord desired that they should attain their age of full strength and get out their treasure - a mercy (and favour) from thy Lord. I did it not of my own accord. Such is the interpretation of (those things) over which thou wast unable to hold patience."
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When I was reading about the Story narrated in 1860 it striked me that the Two seas must be the The Present World and the Here After...
The Present World =>> Salt and Bitter
The Here After =>> Sweet and Palatable..peace brother shabeer,
Then how about ayats which say this world and their deeds are made pleasing to their eyes? And how about the ayat that says spouses are made nice for you? Certainly the present world is not only "salt and bitter"...
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shabeer, when do i get to play chess with youuuu?? ;D D
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Peace be upon you,
I just got a chance to look at this thread, it is very interesting but I will need some time to ponder it. I like where you are going with it but there is still more that needs to be understood before we can say "yes, thats the answer".
I'll put more thought into it and see what I can understand.
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Peace Brothers And sisters..
What is the meaning of "Hootahuma" It is only referred to Quran only oncein 1861 as per openburhan.
What are the other dictionary meanings of Hootahuma? Can anybody with a dictionary please Post it here?Other Verses Using the Word "Al Hoot"
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Qala araayta ith awaynaila alssakhrati fa-innee naseetu alhootawama ansaneehu illa alshshaytanuan athkurahu waittakhatha sabeelahu fee albahriAAajaban
He replied "Sawest thou (what happened) when we betook ourselves to the rock? I did indeed forget (about) the Fish none but Satan made me forget to tell (you) about it it took its course through the sea in a marvellous way!"
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Failtaqamahu alhootu wahuwamuleemun
Then the big Fish did swallow him, and he had done acts worthy of blame. 3.
Faisbir lihukmi rabbikawala takun kasahibi alhooti ith nadawahuwa makthoomun
So wait with patience for the Command of thy Lord, and be not like the Companion of the Fish,- when he cried out in agony. -
Peace Brothers and sisters..
I read an Article saying that Quran is arranged in Order. It is not scattered Verses..Chapter 18 First Deal with the Story of the Cave People. And Their SLEEP
And the Second with DEATH??. Then How is the Story of the Dhul Qarnain Related to these Topics? -
I am not too sure what the Quran says but in the book of Revlations dipicts a very interesting ending to life and the ending of the world if you are interested.
Sincerely, Abuja
But we already have the Qur'an, we don't need any other books! What use is the book of Revelation to us?
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But we already have the Qur'an, we don't need any other books! What use is the book of Revelation to us?
I simply said it didicted a interesting story and I believe we all nedd this book. But its up to each individual as to what they believe. You dont have to use it if you dont want to. I already have the Bible and I am trying to learn some about the Quran maybe others want to expand there knowledge as well.
Sincerely, Abuja