BLASPHMEMY

[Tahira]

Beautifully said Zenje

Your verse from the quran (2171) reminds me of what happens when people play chinese whispers (Like the one who reapeats what he has heard of calls and shouts) and yes they do behave deaf (ignorant), dumb(stupid) and blind (carless).

Other variations and descriptions from members are most welcome.

My eldest brother in law would ask me" are women clever in thinking like men. Can they tell the difference between bad and good,right and wrong".
He could'nt tell the difference between right and left let alone right and wrong. I don't know about other things but he definetly had a diploma for bragging.

[Layth]

Peace Tahira,

First of all Welcome

On the issue of Faithfreedom or the reaction of your community or family or any other people...My view is that nothing and no one should matter for us except God...We are here on Earth to serve Him and Him Alone and not to win any popularity contest or to gather a following.

Nearly all prophets/messengers were persicuted, they were hounded, they were shunned, they lost family and friends...Yet, through it all they remained steadfast to the One that matters...The One in whose hands is our destiny, our salvation.

[unknownuser]

"Joy lies in the fight, in the attempt, in the suffering involved, not in the victory itself" -Ghandi

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Ghandi ... heh.. heh.. love that one.. what??

Here's more of him trance

You must be the change you want to see in the world.Mahatma Gandhi

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty. Mahatma Gandhi

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi,

In the attitude of silence the soul finds the path in a clearer light, and what is elusive and deceptive resolves itself into crystal clearness. Our life is a long and arduous quest after Truth. Mahatma Gandhi

[savage_carrot]

how about a quote or two from one of the most peaceful men in current history...

How about a quote about peace?

Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum...Therefore, he who desires peace, let him prepare for war.

[unknownuser]

This seems a quotation thread wink

Here are mine

"To end All Wars, you need to have ONE BIG WAR" - I think Confucious.

from the film Third Man - Orson Welles?

"In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed ? they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

I love that one...and the Gandh's Eye for Eye is my favourite too -)

Regards,

[shamsul-arefin]

salam,

one of my fav. stories has always been the Ghandi suger story... i'm going off of memory.. so please excuse if it's a bit off here or there.. but i think you'll get the gist...

A woman comes to Ghandi and and asks him to tell her son to stop eating suger... Ghandi thinks about it for a good while and tells the lady to come back in a week and bring her son with her again. So, she does, and when the week comes there they are again.. both mother and son in front of Ghandi... so she asks again.. can you please ask my son to stop eating suger... so this time the Mahatma simply looks at the boy and say "stop eating suger".

The mother is a bit puzzled and asks him.. why he had her come back in week just to say "stop eating suger" .. and Ghandi replies... "because last week, i was still eating suger, myself"..

peace...

LOL....I heard that story to be from muhammad??!!! shock confusing..lol

peace

[nadeem]

Hi everyone,

If i may, here is my quote's collection. It's with norwegian translation because copy-pasted. Hope it's okay.

Jean Jacques Rousseau

Man is born free but alas everywhere he is in chains!
Norsk Mennesket er f?dt fri men han er i lenker alle andre steder.

Erich Fromm

When people cant handle God anymore, they turn to religion
Norsk N?r folk ikke kan h?ndtere Gud lengre, snur de seg mot religion. =D>

Marie Curie

Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood.
Norsk Det er ingenting ? frykte, det er bare ? forst?

Hamlet

There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so
Norsk Det finnes ingenting (som er) enten godt eller ondt, men tenking gj?r det slikt.

Elie Wiesel

The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference
Norsk Det motsatte av kj?rlighet er ikke hat, men likegyldighet. =D>

Gandhi

There is enough on earth for everybodys need, but not for everyones greed.
Norsk Det er nok i verden for enhver's n?dvendighet, men ikke for enhvers gr?dighet.

It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err.
Norsk Det er uklokt ? v?re for sikker p? sin egen visdom. Det er sunt ? bli p?mint at den sterkeste kan bli svekket og den klokeste feile.

To believe in something, and not live it, is dishonest.
Norsk ? tro p? noe, men ikke leve det ut, er u?rlig.

Edmund Burke

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. =D>
Norsk Alt som er n?dvendig for at det onde vinner, er gode menn som gj?r ingenting.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Norsk ? lese uten ? reflektere er som ? spise uten ? ford?ye.? =D>

Pythagoras

No one is free who has not obtained the empire of himself. No man is free who cannot command himself.
Norsk Ingen er frie dersom de ikke har overtatt konged?mme over han selv. Ingen mann er fri som ikke kan beordre seg selv.

Wisdom thoroughly learned will never be forgotten.
Norsk Visdom grunding l?rt wil aldri bli bortglemt.

Write in the sand the flaws of your friend.
Norsk Skriv i sanden feilene til din venn.

Silence is better than unmeaning words.
Norsk Stillhet er bedre enn nedsettende ord.

Socrates

All I know is that I know nothing.
Norsk Alt jeg vet er at jeg vet ingenting.

Bad men live that they may eat and drink, whereas good men eat and drink that they may live.
Norsk Onde menn lever slik at de kan spise og drikke, gode menn derimot, drikker og spiser for ? leve.

I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.
Norsk Jeg vet ingenting annet enn fakta om min ignoranse.

By all means marry; if you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher. lol
Norsk For all del gift deg; dersom du f?r en god kone, vil du bli lykkelig. Dersom du f?r en d?rlig en, vil du bli en filosof.

Death may be the greatest of all human blessings.
Norsk D?d er kanskje menneskets st?rste velsignelse

He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of nature.
Norsk Han er den rikeste som n?yer seg med det minste, da tilfred er naturen's skatt.

He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have.
Norsk Han som ikke er tilfreds med det han har, vil ikke n?ye seg med det han vil like ? ha.

Let him that would move the world first move himself.
Norsk La han som vil forandre verden f?rst forandre seg selv.

To find yourself, think for yourself.
Norsk For ? finne deg selv, reflekter selv.?

Voltaire

Common sense is not so common.
Norsk Allmenn kunnskap er ikke s? allmenn.

Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too.
Norsk Reflekter selv og la andre f? nyte privilegium til ? gj?re det ogs?.

Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.
Norsk Tvil er ingen bekvem tilstand, men visshet er absurd.

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
Norsk Det er farlig ? v?re riktig n?r staten tar feil.

No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. =D>
Norsk Ingen sn?fugg i et sn?skred f?ler seg skyldig noen gang.

Evelyn Beatrice Hall

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Norsk Jeg forkaster det du sier, men jeg vil til d?den forsvare din rett til ? si det.

Plato

No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.
Norsk Ingen er mer forhatt enn han som snakker sant.

Aristoteles

It is simplicity that makes the uneducated more effective than the educated when addressing popular audiences.
Norsk Det er enkelhet som gj?r den ikke-l?rde mer effektiv enn den l?rde n?r de taler til en stor publikum.

Nadeem Jabbar Qureshi

My greatest delusion was the belief of not being deluded
Norsk Mitt st?rste galskap var ? tro at jeg ikke var gal.

Loudthinking makes you a mindreader
Norsk variant Om du tenker h?yt, vil du h?re andres tanker ogs?

Wisdom isn't achieved by a one-night stand with the books.
Norsk Visdom er ikke oppn?dd ved en natts 'samleie' med b?kene.

Don't punish the guilty seeking to harm him, but rather to help him never transgress again.

Nadeem.

[unknownuser]

Those are excellent quotes young Nadeem. You got most of my favourite ones in there!!!

Regards,

[nadeem]

Hi LoteTree,

How are you?

I'd like to take the oppurtunity to admit that i'm fascinated by the message within these quotes and many other. I started reading a book by Socrates or Aristotles where he analyzed "dreams" and how they formed. I also took a look at some of Descartes's articles, and i was struck by their writings. Dear god, these men really were gifted. Their writings should be mandatory for everyone to read.

Will you share with me the rest of your favorites?

I'm so sorry Tahira for not sticking to your topic. Can you forgive me?

nadeem.

[Vizard]

"Joy lies in the fight, in the attempt, in the suffering involved, not in the victory itself" -Ghandi

I think this is very true. Both the religionist and those who oppose them taking part in such endless debates, they are living on the agitation, fueling their own sentiments.

[nadeem]

ps. Don't talk negatively about those at faithfreedom.com, since he who badmouths others, tells alot about himself.

[unknownuser]

Hello Nadeem,

Hi LoteTree,
How are you?

I am fine thanks.
And I hope all is well with you?

Will you share with me the rest of your favorites?

It will take some time to prepare Nadeem but I will try to do so in time and put it in the off topic section...

but going back to the topic...

I have heard of faithfreedom site but never been there myself. I remember one of the guys came to 19.org to debate with Edip for a while...

Regards,

[Tahira]

Salam Nadeem

Nice to meet you both. tempt

[Tahira]

Nadeem i loved the quotes. It makes one realise how much power there is in words. Words can make you sound stupid or clever, right or wrong. They can make you do bad or good , become a leader or follower, make war or peace.

Quran is words and blasphemy is words yet the impact they have on human life is completely different.

[nadeem]

Hello brothers and sisters, "muslims" and "Non-muslims" alike.

Dear LoteTree,

I'm fine as well. Just finish'd my mock exams recently and i believe it went good, except the last one. The english exam that is. The english itself went great, but the content might have been....stupid. I was asked to write a personal text, i believe i went to personal with it. Oh well, it's not the end of the world.

I really look forward to your quotes-post.

Dear Tahira,

Nice to meet you as well.

I appreciate your understanding of words and I certainly do agree. Words can reach your soul, no weapon or medicine possesses this quality.

Nadeem.

[nadeem]

Hi Dear M_Mehdi,

Oh, thanks for pointing that out -) But i must point out(reputation) that it was only a typo as i'm very aware of the to/too rule -)

Oh it was personal. I mean I just let every thought inside of me out, without filtering it with moral and ethics. Thus, I said things I'd never say when in my senses. I'll send you a copy as soon as I get the paper back. But you must promise me you'll not base your impression of me over that paper, do you promise? -) Since I'm not the person one would think after reading that paper.

tv and the too ol daily routine of the chug chug... seem to be be doing a good job working as a weapon - just a thought

Perhaps you're right. Or can we say that "tv and the too ol daily routine" only supresses or blocks the soul, but does not reach it?

btw.. love your sig! too funny..

Thanks, I added yet another funny sig, what do you think? -)