The word Islam
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Peace Ahmed,
You wrotenow to be a muslim you must fight and even kill who attack our religion and want to kill us
the above is an important part to be a muslim, and surley has nothing to do with peace, rather submitting to Allah laws in His Quran
Brother I totally disagree with you. If someone wants to kill us then we have the right to defend ourselves, but the idea to kill someone who attack our religion is?. Strange? And what when we attack other religions? Should they practice the same law? what about sectarians groups?
608-Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes from dealing kindly and justly with them for Allah loveth those who are just.
609-Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith and drive you out of your homes and support (others) in driving you out from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances) that do wrong.Bye.
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Peace Agentxxx
please read my comment again
i said "who attack our religion AND WANT TO KILL US"
and I can backup what I said from the Quran
thank you
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peace ahmed,
you wroteplease read my comment again
i said "who attack our religion AND WANT TO KILL US"
and I can backup what I said from the Quranoops ? sorry i am confused, please explain what you mean by "who attack our religions and want to kill us"? do you mean indiviuals, groups or nations?
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peace ahmed,
you wroteplease read my comment again
i said "who attack our religion AND WANT TO KILL US"
and I can backup what I said from the Quranoops ? sorry i am confused, please explain what you mean by "who attack our religions and want to kill us"? do you mean indiviuals, groups or nations?
take care.it mostely happen by groups or nations but the individuals should also be included and the target is Islam, it is clear in the Quran, but I would say, i will elaborate later bro, I'm just at work currently
peace
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I suppose acting on self defence(self-protection) towards people who wage war against u or opress u merely on the account of the faith that u follow(Islam), would be justified.
Are there any other justifications for the use of violence, in Quran?2190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
2191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
2192 But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
2193 And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.2216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
2217 They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.
2218 Those who believed and those who suffered exile and fought (and strove and struggled) in the path of Allah,- they have the hope of the Mercy of Allah. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.475 And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
Peace!
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I suppose acting on self defence(self-protection) towards people who wage war against u or opress u merely on the account of the faith that u follow(Islam), would be justified.
sister, the Quran is clear, anyone who will act in opposition to our faith must be responded to
verbal = verbal
physical = physical
they can chose to live with us in peace and we will honor that, but our duty as outlined in the Quran that we have to fight whoever opress our religion
Are there any other justifications for the use of violence, in Quran?
Peace!I believe there is more than just people attacking Islam
we read in the Quran that if two muslim tribes fight togther, another muslim tribe should promote peace between them and force a peaceful treaty, then if one of the tribes breaks the treaty the Quran is telling us to fight that one that started the attack
the above even encourage violence between muslims, however I see it justified
peace
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Peace be upon you Ahmed,
You have posted your idea of "islam". We can substitute "peacefulness" in every instance.
Fighting for self defense is maintaining the peace. Just like the body fights off diseases.sorry bro this is not my idea, this is a vey well know fact about Islam, and I knw the arabic words very well, it is more to submitt than be a peaceful human, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, it will show a few verses later to support this common knwledge in the arab world
While you are at it, please show "sujood" as well which carries the meaning of submission(hear and obey).
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Peace be upon you Ahmed,
Peace bro
You have posted your idea of "islam". We can substitute "peacefulness" in every instance.
Fighting for self defense is maintaining the peace. Just like the body fights off diseases.sorry bro this is not my idea, this is a vey well know fact about Islam, and I knw the arabic words very well, it is more to submitt than be a peaceful human, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, it will show a few verses later to support this common knwledge in the arab world
While you are at it, please show "sujood" as well which carries the meaning of submission(hear and obey).
Bro I'm not at anything other than expaining some clear arabic words
now I posted the meaning of Islam as stated in the Quran letter by letter and it means to spiritually submitt to Allah, you chose to turn a blind eye on the compelling verse from the Quran that define Islam and that is up to you
for sujood, yews it means "to submit INDIRECTLY by an action"
Islam "IS TO SUBMIT MENTALLY not by Action"
peace
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Peace be upon you Ahmed,
I will stop here. I have just witnessed in another thread that you are still a follower of baseless hadith such as beings called angesl with wings and other such fairytales. This is not the level of study that I am dealing with, so we can resume our talks once you have been hee for a while longer and made some steps in the higher direction.
Please do no take offense to my statement, but I have been there and I know where you are, it will take more time for you to question what you have been taught, then we can resume.
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Peace be upon you Ahmed,
I will stop here. I have just witnessed in another thread that you are still a follower of baseless hadith such as beings called angesl with wings and other such fairytales. This is not the level of study that I am dealing with, so we can resume our talks once you have been hee for a while longer and made some steps in the higher direction.
Please do no take offense to my statement, but I have been there and I know where you are, it will take more time for you to question what you have been taught, then we can resume.
No offence bro
but it seems your conclusion is way too wrong, I care;ess about the hadith, but i'm happy to read it, and I have to tell you bro, for me you don't even follow the Quran and this is ironic that you accuse me of folowing the hadith lol
all the best