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Ladies - do you wear hijab?

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    Ming-Lo
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    Hi Ming-lo,

    Hi! They say that you're supposed to start wearing hijab when you hit puberty, I guess when you start menstruatin or when you start growing breast. I started when I had my first period.

    That still makes sense.
    What doesnt make sense is when kids are made to wear.
    Like I said, incase of the 2 yr old girl, she is always covered up only revealing her face,hands and feet, when she is taken out of her home. I thought it was ridiculous.

    Peace!

    Yeah, I know....it makes no sense, why would a baby have to cover??? but I went to a sunni school from the time I was four, and they used to make us cover, and my friend her school used to make her cover in black from head to toe and some of the girls covered their face aswell and it was like their first year of school.....ridiculous...no logic behind it at all.

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      Jaxal
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      SaLaM

      I find that a bit silly maing babies wear hijabs.

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        warda
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        Hi everyone

        SaLaM

        I find that a bit silly maing babies wear hijabs.

        This is not only silly but sick! nope

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          Jaxal
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          SaLaM warda

          Its is sick indeed. My university has its own bar and there was a girl there wearing a hijab. I cannot blame her for wearing hijab. I bet she has worn hijab for soooooooooooo long, that now, its a part of her clothing without which she feels naked. That is sad. I dont mind women wearing hijabs. Infact, i find them attractive. but to think that without the hijab they are naked or something then thats just BS.

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            burhan
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            In uk & uae, I see so many girls who'll wear the hijab, but then have the tightest jeans or skimpiest top they can find. What's the point. I'm seeing this trend more and more in the uk among younger generation.

            luckly for them I'm usally in a rush otherwise I'd stop and ask them.

            peace.

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              warda
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              In uk & uae, I see so many girls who'll wear the hijab, but then have the tightest jeans or skimpiest top they can find. What's the point. I'm seeing this trend more and more in the uk among younger generation.

              luckly for them I'm usally in a rush otherwise I'd stop and ask them.

              Because Hijab nowadays is sexy! You can see them here too. Lots of make-up in their face and you can even see the string through her skirt (!!) but wearing hijab!

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                SwedenMajidah
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                Salaam all,

                Isn't it time to point out that hijjab is only a piece of cloth and nothing else.

                All kind of clothes can be a trend, sometimes it's long skirts and other seasons it's shorter than shortest skirts.

                Quran don't say anything that women shall wear hijjab, infact what is a hijjab anyway, Quran don't even mention this, it is pure manmade.

                And when we see very young girls wearing it together with tight jeans and tops then it speak for itself that it's just a tradition nothing else.

                And we who don't like traditions because it's manmade we shouldn't bother about fellow sister's and brother's accusations that we are bad muslimahs who refuse to wear that silly piece of cloth on our head.

                Peace Sis Maria

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                  Tahira
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                  This is one of the reasons why i stopped my girls going to the islamic acadamy i was sending them to. Instead of learning to respect me they would come home and question my authority. Everything i did was evil according to this acadamy. I ended up with 2 very confused little girls.
                  They told them if you don't cover themselves they will become the devils wives and that he will piss on their heads if its not covered. They were also told that wearing makeup, westernised clothing and watching tv were all evil acts and they would burn in hell.

                  Maybe this is why Jaxal likes women wearing headscarves. He doesn't like the smell of devil piss.

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                    unknownuser
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                    Hi Tahira,

                    This is one of the reasons why i stopped my girls going to the islamic acadamy i was sending them to. Instead of learning to respect me they would come home and question my authority. Everything i did was evil according to this acadamy. I ended up with 2 very confused little girls.
                    They told them if you don't cover themselves they will become the devils wives and that he will piss on their heads if its not covered. They were also told that wearing makeup, westernised clothing and watching tv were all evil acts and they would burn in hell.

                    Where is this islamic academy located?
                    U come up with too many hadiths against women that I have never heard of or had to deal with, fortunately.
                    Where do such hadiths come from and who actually believe such nonsense?

                    Peace!

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                      Tahira
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                      Hi PM

                      This acadamy is the AbuHurairah Acadamy in Bradford 3.

                      At the moment i am having a hard time trying to deal with my mum and brother in law who are bullying my daughter(who is now 12) into wearing a headscarf. They are using these same Hadith/sayings to try and scare her. They also told me i am a bad influence on her.

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                        Jaxal
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                        WTF! She is YOUR daughter. Your mum dont have squat right to tell YOUR daughter what and what not to wear.

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                          Tahira
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                          OOPS i think Jaxal is more upset than i am. I am so glad my mum doesn't know i post here.

                          By the way Jaxal, my mum doesn't even know how to read or write. She has never read the Quran and depends completley on relatives, mullahs and what she hears from others. Yet she is not willing to listen to what i have to say.

                          My brother in law is just one of those miserable sunnis who repeats everything he hears at mosque(like a parrot). He tries to portray this image of a pious and righteous muslim who knows better than me because he was brought up in pakistan, and i am considered too westernised to understand islam.

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                            Jaxal
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                            SaLaM Tahira

                            Tahira teach your daughter the right thing. Tell her that at the end of the day, its what GOD thinks that matters... not what her grandmother or uncles thinks. Share your kowledhe with her. How old is she? Show her what you have learnt. Get her involved in this, slowly. No doubt now that ur brother in law and ur mom will double their efforts to effect your daughter's judgement by telling her what to do.

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                              stillearning
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                              salaam

                              Where do such hadiths come from and who actually believe such nonsense?

                              I am afraid over 90% of so called muslims. It is one of the tragedies of te muslim world. You indeed are very fortunate if you ave not come across the hadith fascists. In fact if you dont accept hadith alongside Quran they will declare you Kafir(now that must ring few bells).
                              I am afraid the scenario Tahira desribes is only too common and very familiar and unfortunately even more depressing for someone like Tahira as there are so few women who question authority of hadiths, therefore very few who will understand her view point.

                              Note for Tahira, just be careful as how vocally you express your stance to others in your family or the community as things can become very nasty.
                              You may have to work to on your family gradually. Why not start a Quran studying group within your family as they are unlikely to object. Go through non controversial subjects initially like Haj, Fasting, salat etc they might be surprised at they had percieved and what the Quran says and perhaps eventually you could tackle the subject of Hadith and try to interpert suras such as 456 and 7185.
                              It might not atill work but it is worth a try-be very patient.
                              regards

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                                warda
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                                Salam Stillearning

                                . You indeed are very fortunate if you ave not come across the hadith fascists. In fact if you dont accept hadith alongside Quran they will declare you Kafir

                                Brother, don't call them fascists, 'cause they're really something different. You cannot call them fascissts and at the same time complain that they call you Kafir. It's better for us not to mix things up and not use these phrases too much.

                                Salam
                                warda

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                                  Tahira
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                                  Salam

                                  stillearning your post is so very true . I do need to be careful and yes you do get called kafir if you object to any of the Hadith. Your approach sounds good though. I do find myself cornered by everyone but this headscarf buisness is getting a bit out of hand.

                                  Warda i suppose you are right that calling them names won't do any good because its not their fault their heads have been filled with all that nonsense.

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Hi Tahira,

                                    At the moment i am having a hard time trying to deal with my mum and brother in law who are bullying my daughter(who is now 12) into wearing a headscarf. They are using these same Hadith/sayings to try and scare her. They also told me i am a bad influence on her.

                                    Dont let anyone tell u what to do with ur life or with ur chidren. U r old enough to decide for ur own. And its ur responsibility to live and to bring up ur children to the best of ur understanding. Ur family memebers can and should deal with their lives the way they wish and not command u on what to do. So, dont get annyoyed by what they say. Just plain ignore and do what u feel is right.

                                    By the way Jaxal, my mum doesn't even know how to read or write. She has never read the Quran and depends completley on relatives, mullahs and what she hears from others. Yet she is not willing to listen to what i have to say.

                                    Ignorance coupled with irrational fear is the culprit.

                                    My brother in law is just one of those miserable sunnis who repeats everything he hears at mosque(like a parrot). He tries to portray this image of a pious and righteous muslim who knows better than me because he was brought up in pakistan, and i am considered too westernised to understand islam.

                                    I know, Tahira. I have met these kinds. But the sad reality is the minds of young men get so brainwashed by those imam's speeches(no matter what they say) in mosques. Wonder when and if they will ever think and contemplate for themselves???

                                    Peace!

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                                      burhan
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                                      Because Hijab nowadays is sexy! You can see them here too. Lots of make-up in their face and you can even see the string through her skirt (!!) but wearing hijab!

                                      I didn't want to mention the string .... glad you did. D

                                      I've also noticed that by wearing hijab they develop some sort of superiority complex over those who don't, and that all their bad actions will be forgiven because of the hijab.

                                      Guys develop something similar by going to Jumma prayers. It doesn't matter what crimes they commit, if they've read jumma and quoted a few hadith to friends they'll be allright.

                                      I saw a tv show once, where a reporter was asking muslims coming from jumma what the last sentence from al-fathiha meant in their language. Not one was able to answer. the classic answer comes from a Hafiz-Quran, "I don't know what it means, I just memorise it". Finally an arab dude saves the day and answers the question.

                                      peace

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                                        NoProgressive
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                                        As Salaam Alaikum,

                                        I will never understand how others can try to knock others down to try to boost their own confidence.

                                        Please do not act as if there are no "no hijab" wearing sisters going around acting as if they are not superior than the hijabis, as if they are somewhat more privledged. Most of them with this mentality i can say, are quite ignorant.

                                        Free-Minds.org, calls itself prgoressive. But yet it seems as if many of the members are just 16th century rulers wanting to control women.

                                        For those who call hijab "silly", and throw other insults towards it... you are no different than the ones who call you "bad muslims" for not wearing it or saying it's ok not to.

                                        You may think that you sound progressive, or "free", because you are talking shiz about it, but you really are not. Just another extremist if you ask me.

                                        LET WOMEN DRESS HOW THEY WANT TO DRESS! WHY MUST YOU CRITISIZE?!

                                        salaam

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                                          Tahira
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                                          Peacefulmuslim sweetheart you can always read my mind.

                                          burhan_21 you must be psychic too , i do kind of feel inferior when going past girls wearing hijab especially when they stare at me.

                                          NoProgressive so true. I see girls not wearing hijab who look down on girls that do, yet they themselves look like tramps.

                                          My neice is 11yrs old She gets forced to wear a scarf by her dad(my brother in law). She has told me about a 1000 times how much she hates wearing it and yet when my daughter gets bullied by my mum and mob she also joins in.

                                          my mum always told me i would be hung from my hair for infinity for not covering my head. So iv'e cut my hair short. Now she tells me that as a punishment i am going to have to find and collect (with a tweezer )every hair that i cut off and then i will be dragged by my hair till my skin tears off.

                                          I'm thinking of going for shave now.

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