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The theory of Evolution disproved in 20 questions

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    Jaxal
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    SaLaM bmbmm and idmkhizar

    Here is one How is the genome get reprogrammed through evolution?

    Since im no scientist, i will assume that this depends on the surrounding of the species. For example, giraffs have longer necks becoz their source of food came from high branches. Hence over time ( probably 100s of years ), their genes reprogrammed themselves to give the species a longer neck.

    Another example would be, and correct me if im wrong, is that people living in africa, not all maybe, have a higher resistance to the UV light.

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      bmbmm
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      Hi Jaxal,

      Good speculation. Actually adaptation is mostly true, when particular set of genes are activated and transcribed to produce an RNA and hence a change, but the DNA does not change. It is impossible to reprogramme DNA, undernormal conditions, and if it do occur it leads to diseases, hence evolution is rejected.

      Peace

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        Jaxal
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        SaLaM bmbmm

        and if it do occur it leads to diseases,

        Is that ALWAYS the case?

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          bmbmm
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          Not always the case, but some mutations giving rise to a functional protein is 1100000000000000000000000000000 chance

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            Jaxal
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            SaLaM bmbmm

            Is this your personal opinion or a scientific fact? What do you think about dolphines? mamals. How come?

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              bmbmm
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              Dear Jaxal,

              If you take 20 different amino acids, 100 each. Put them is a basket (if its possible) and see whether you will come up with a correct protein sequence. Its funny that the Evolutionist are not just saying this, what they are suggesting that the DNA (which codes for this protein) is to be reprogrammed (although they can't say this...because it will be a joke!).
              The complexity of the DNA is so huge that if everyone try to create a fly they will not be able to...and what is evolution? what can evolution do? Allah created everything and given everything its nature. One should understand whats the real motive(s) behind the evolution theory.

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                Jaxal
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                SaLaM bmbmm

                How do you explain different breeds in the same species?

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                  bmbmm
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                  Well JAXAL,

                  Its just like mixing two different colours (DNA). i do not see evolution playing a role here. Breeding is not evolution.

                  Salam

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                    Jaxal
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                    SaLaM

                    So where did the FIRST 'second' breed come from?

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                      bmbmm
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                      Salam jaxal,

                      I don't know I want to know as well....but i can assure you that its not from evolution.

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                        Not always the case, but some mutations giving rise to a functional protein is 1100000000000000000000000000000 chance

                        Mutation giving you new functional extra nose on your face - it does not work that way. Mutative changes are very small and their effects are accumulative over thousands if not millions of years...

                        Regards,

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                          bmbmm
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                          Salam,

                          I was just kidding, giving the nose example...Mutations can be millions of years, but will they change a fish to a lizard?

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                            Jaxal
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                            SaLaM bmbmm

                            but i can assure you that its not from evolution.

                            I beg to differ. I think it has everything to do with evolution. From a lion to a cat. De-evolution looooooolll no just kidding. But seriously, its not like the lion woke up one day and found it has shurnk in size. Or the other way round.

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                              Salam,
                              I was just kidding, giving the nose example...Mutations can be millions of years, but will they change a fish to a lizard?

                              The evidence that we have is the fossil records and the comparison of DNA sequences between species...

                              Regards,

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                                Hi LotTree,

                                I think fossil records does not mean anything as far as evolution is concerned. We have to deal evolution at the molecular level. There is resemblence in the DNA seqience within various species, because they are part of the system, such as there is resemblence between various planets etc.

                                If you can show me an example or condition under which the genomic DNA is changed for the benefit of a particular species than I will acknowledge evolution. Just give me one example.

                                Please

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Hello bmbmm,

                                  I think fossil records does not mean anything as far as evolution is concerned.

                                  How do you explain the fossil record then?

                                  We have to deal evolution at the molecular level.

                                  Yes, this the contention of the book "Darwin's Black Box" by the Biochemist Micheal Behe. He brings in the concept of "irreducible complexity" and in that he has a good case. He gives an convincing argument of this "irreducible complexity" using the Bacterial flagellum.
                                  But this argument has been undermined recently by Richard Dawkins and others. But even Dr. Behe who is the leading intellectual of the Creationist movement in America, admits that all life share a common ancestor including common ancestory of apes and humans and accepts all the evidence for macroevolution of species.

                                  But explanation of evolution at the biomolecular level is the next challenge. We will just have to wait and see how the knowledge develops in that area and what answers we get from it. It is still early days yet.
                                  First hurdle to overcome perhaps is to account for the "abiogenesis" on Earth. There are two competing theories that might explain it, the RNA World Hypothesis and the Crystal Theory. If any of these can explain the evolution of the DNA then we can confirm evolution in the lab until then we have only fossil records and DNA analysis to make a tenative conclusion.

                                  There is resemblence in the DNA seqience within various species, because they are part of the system,

                                  Yes, all life seem to share a common ancestory - this is the undeniable fact perhaps from modern DNA analysis.

                                  If you can show me an example or condition under which the genomic DNA is changed for the benefit of a particular species than I will acknowledge evolution. Just give me one example.

                                  I think Andya will able to give example perhaps because he works in this field...so Andya if can...thanks...

                                  Regards,

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                                    bmbmm
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                                    Dear LoteTree,

                                    When we see things around us we do see a resemblance. Its either suggest a common ancestor or not. But why a common ancestor? why no many ancestors? The truth is things do not change, things do adapt to their surroundings, according to adaptation i.e. certain class of genes are activated and others are silenced. This however has nothing to do with evolution, because evolution suggest a change in the genetic level, which even the evolutionist will not agree, yet still claiming that it takes millions of years.

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Hello bmbmm,

                                      But why a common ancestor? why no many ancestors?

                                      The DNA analysis suggests common ancestory...

                                      The truth is things do not change, things do adapt to their surroundings,
                                      according to adaptation i.e. certain class of genes are activated and others are silenced.

                                      Yes this is the case. Adaptation is part of evolution. When you say certain genes are activated and others silenced in the past - yes that is so...but in our in earth's past DNA itself must have been built from smaller molecules? The whole DNA molecule coming to existence by random chance is impossible - scientist acknowledge that.

                                      This however has nothing to do with evolution, because evolution suggest a change in the genetic level, which even the evolutionist will not agree, yet still claiming that it takes millions of years.

                                      There are indeed changes in the genetic level, mutations is one example, there are gene transfers, co-option etc...there is a whole host of mechanism which explains the development of the complexity of the DNA molecule and this all boils down to the fact that the DNA copy process is not pefect. There are always errors in the copy process. And when DNA are analysised these errors can be seen in living animals too in shared ancestory.

                                      Regards,

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                                        bmbmm
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                                        Hi,

                                        What you just said is not right. Adaptation is not evolution.

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Hi,

                                          What you just said is not right. Adaptation is not evolution.

                                          Evolution involves two interrelated phenomena
                                          adaptation
                                          Over the course of time, species modify their phenotypes in ways that permit them to succeed in their environment.

                                          This page is devoted to looking at how evolution leads to adaptation.

                                          speciation
                                          Over the course of time, the number of species multiplies; that is, a single species can give rise to two or more descendant species. In fact, Darwin maintained that all species are related; that is, any two species on earth today have shared a common ancestor at some point in their history.

                                          Regards,

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