Wife Beatgin
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Peace be upon you Lote Tree,
Can you we have an objective translation of this word. Is it BEAT OR SEPARATE? and if so why have scholars for the past 1400 years, including impartial oriental scholars have translated it as BEAT? could it be that all these scholars including the oriental ones were all mysoginistic?
They were all influenced by poor meditation on he subject. Did Musa STRIKE the water or did he SEPERATE the waters?
How does one BEAT a similitude? A similitude is an event seperated from the whole to be used as a lesson.
Take a LOOK at the occurences.
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SaLaM
I believe its the seperation of the husband from his wife.
Peace
but don't you think the seperation is already stated as option 2 by not sleeping with her?
peace
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SaLaM Ahmend
I mean not just desertion in bed. But a complete seperation.
Thanks bro, but I believe deserting in bed should also be understaood as a complete desertion
i mean who is the wife that will see her husband desrting her sexually and will continue to have a normal life with him in any other aspect but sex?
you see bro I do understand it as deserting completely but I was just explaining the literal arabic words
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Execue me Joe
I did not say IT SHOULD BE
can you read my comment again
Peace to you
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Peace
I don't know very many men that can out last a women when it comes to "going without"
Well I think this is another form of misconstrued judgement for males.
Men are told they should be sexual machines, wanting to have sex all the time and should be able to meet the standard.
Men are not necessarily such just as a woman should not necessarily be skinny as a toothpick with a C cup.
Joe
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Peace Ahmed
I did not say IT SHOULD BE
can you read my comment again
Yes I can, can you?
I believe deserting in bed should also be understaood as a complete desertion
Joe
LOL
thanks Joe
ok I said I believe
if I said it should be without I believe then you are right
any way bro thanks for that it was a cool catch , so your reponse should be you disagree with my belief
just kiddin bro lol
Peace
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Peace Ahmed
My response was my dissagreement with your belief. I did not say what you wrote was fact either. I just said that I do not agree with Ahmed regarding what he wrote.
Joe
Peace Joe
ok at least you agree with some?
anyway my response regarding full desretion was only to support Jaxal understanding because it made sense to me and I provided a simple logic to explain it, however if you read my first comment you will see that I have only one option in my book to deal with a non god fearing wife, which is the highway, no beating no insults no desertion and she can have half of my money as well, there are heaps of God fearing women out there
peace Joe
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How come no one has mentioned that only a good and righteous muslim man would have this right to hit his wife lightly not one who probably sleeps around with half the town himself.
Then again iv'e seen women who can be so mouthy and spoilt that they keep provoking till the poor man can take no more and has to hit her to shut her up. Believe me when i mean provoking i mean PROVOKING. They will pick a issue and keep at it for days and days on end.
I could give a few examples but would rather not.
I think people keep forgetting that this was one of the reasons divorce was allowed , that when your partner becomes unbearable to live with for whatever reason instead of becoming a monster yourself just walk away.
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How come no one has mentioned that only a good and righteous muslim man would have this right to hit his wife lightly not one who probably sleeps around with half the town himself.
Then again iv'e seen women who can be so mouthy and spoilt that they keep provoking till the poor man can take no more and has to hit her to shut her up. Believe me when i mean provoking i mean PROVOKING. They will pick a issue and keep at it for days and days on end.
I could give a few examples but would rather not.
I think people keep forgetting that this was one of the reasons divorce was allowed , that when your partner becomes unbearable to live with for whatever reason instead of becoming a monster yourself just walk away.
Very well said sister
thanks for reminding us
can't agree more with what you said
peace be with you
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SalaM Tahira
Then again iv'e seen women who can be so mouthy and spoilt that they keep provoking till the poor man can take no more and has to hit her to shut her up.
Oh i know some women like that x . And sometimes slapping them across the face IS the only way to shut them up. But then they turn around and call us women abusers.
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Well, given the strength of a man over a woman, it is far more likely that a man will seriously injure a woman which is, I believe, why it would be considered sin in most any culture to HIT a woman.
Whether it be intelligence, money, physical strength or word, when one has power over anyone else, they also carry a responsibility never to use that power to harm.
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I am not saying they are not, but men have the responsibility to restrain themselves. Because of his strength and man should NEVER under any circumstance, lay an aggressive hand on a women. There is NO justification for it. The man can hold the woman back should she attack, but nine times out of ten the man will be twice as strong as the woman.