Time does NOT have beginning except in a relative sense!
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Peace,
It is argued that with the coming into existence of the universe time began. However this is ONLY RELATIVELY TRUE. My theory is this universe is just a part of nother universe which in turn is part of yet another and so on OR our universe is part of another universe nth times(6 times according to the Quran inc ours) and the nth+1(7th according to the Quran) is an Ultimate universe something id call an Ultiverse. That universe is to full of violent quantum fluctuations and infinite dimensions thus creating an infinite causal chain each quantum of which has experienced infinite amount of time. Time can thus have been absent in an absolute sense as this would violate causality and thus be completely nonsensible. These quantum combined into intelligence as a result of infinite evolution also over an infinite period of time and that is the most logical approach to explain GOD. This is also supported by the following verse in the Quran
GOD is the light of the heavens and the earth. The allegory of His light is that of a concave mirror behind a lamp that is placed inside a glass container. The glass container is like a bright, pearl-like star. The fuel thereof is supplied from a blessed oil-producing tree, that is neither eastern, nor western. Its oil is almost self-radiating; needs no fire to ignite it. Light upon light. GOD guides to His light whoever wills (to be guided). GOD thus cites the parables for the people. GOD is fully aware of all things.
The point being made is that the source of the first causal quantum particle is at infinity is the only logical explanation of why we have existence at all and the necessary existence of an infinite causal chain of particles makes the existence of GOD not only possible BUT INEVITABLE.
This universe of ours was created as a result of a big bang which according to my theory was a compression of quantum waves/particles into one tiny unit from the Ultiverse or one of the outer universes of which the top most then was created from the Ultiverse. One might argue as to why there couldn?t these universes besides the Ultiverse or ours not have resulted by chance despite the existence of Infinite Intelligence in the Ultiverse but that would be absurd since as soon as intelligence evolves it leaves nothing more up to chance. We can see this in our case here on earth in case we consider the natural environment to be there because of chance. Why then cant we see the light of the other universes? It could be because our universe is surrounded by ?dark matter(unknown matter)? which acts as a coating to protect it from outside influence. If indeed there were an infinite no of parallel universes as Stephen Hawkins suggests, then we would have infinite beings with intelligence who would ultimately penetrate our universe at every point, something I coin as the ?Infinite Intervention Problem?. To overcome this then once again wed require an Infinite Unit Power Source preventing such from happening once again making GOD?s existence INEVITABLE. The major point to understand in this article is that Einstein was right, Newton was right and many others were too but they were incomplete. Time is indeed relative but at the same time it has always existed, only not relative to us. GOD Bless! -
I have a question that bothers me since my ... childhood! Since God is the Creator of everything, including TIME, what meaning can we understand from the verbs of action in the Qur'an and referring to God? I mean that God can not "have done" such or such thing in the past nor He can not "will do" something in the future because there is simply not a past nor a future to God. All His "actions" are independent of time.
Time to go to bed ;D
Salaam handshake
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Hi Br. Jonny,
Time is part of Creation as is Space. Can you conceive of a universe without Space?Yes Being can never arise out of non-Being.
"In the beginning, my dear, the world was just Being (sat), one only, without a second. To be sure, some people say 'In the beginning this world was just Non-being (a-sat), one only, without a second; from that Non-being Being was produced."
-Chandogya Upanishad, i. 9.1.
The speaker then goes on to contest the idea that Being could arise from Non-being.
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No, I think it's being held up by four giant elephants standing on a giant turtle swimming in a sea of milk surrounded by a giant serpent, according to Hindu mythology (can i use that word yet?).
Jonny, I appreciate the effort you put into understanding our universe, but what you've written is nothing but conjecture. It amounts to nothing unless we have actual proof. And that verse, it is an ALLEGORY (it even says so this time) so you can't use it as a scientific description of something.
Peace!
p.s. if you prefer the Greeks over the Hindus, then it's a lot simpler. Earth is being held up by a giant. Period.
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Peace bro "phoenix",
NO that verse is NOT ENTIRELY AN ALLEGORY. The first part where it says "GOD is the Light of the heavens and the earth" is NOT an allegory. Notice how GOD just after that phrase finishes uses the term "mathalu" and then goes to allegorically describe on what He means so as to give us an example with what we can easily perceive. What i understand from that later part is that the source of GOD's light lies at an infinite point, which btw is the only possible explanation because you can keep asking where does something come from and since it is only logical that something has to come from a previous something there has to be infinite regression whether we want it or not. GOD Bless!P.s Light/Em waves is the simplest substance.