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  4. Hey everybody we dont need to go faster than light to travel to travel billions.

Hey everybody we dont need to go faster than light to travel to travel billions.

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    jonny_k
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    Peace,
    According to Einstein's law of relativity time becomes slower and slower for any non elecromagnetic wave/particle particles as they approch this speed. hence if all of us humans sit in a space ship and accelrate to about 99.9999999999% of the speed of light, whilst wed age by one yr, the outer universe wouldve aged by a couple of 100 MILLION years. This way we can see where evoltuion is going on earth without actually intervening.
    Accelerating at "g(9.81 m/s^2)", which is the earth's gravitational pull, to reach near the speed of light would take us about 3x10^8m/s / 9.81m/s^2 ~ 353.95 days < "one year". So wed be living under our perfect experienced gravity as the spacecraft accelerates and in one year we would be close to the speed of light. Problems are 1) we need an annormous amount of energy(i.e E=mc^2/sqr(1-v^2/c^2)) to get the ship to move faster once wer at abt 99% of the speed of light(please dont think 99% speed of light would make time pass that much quickly. Consider the equation t'=t / sqr(1-v^2/c^2); 2) We dont yet know whether our body can stand such speed and how wed react at such speed because the mass will also increase per the same formula i.e.
    m'=m / sqr(1 - v^2/c^2). But if we succeed and this maybe possible within perhaps 50 years from now, then it would be truly marvelous. Once 100 million years have passed on the outside world i.e. the universe we turn back to planet earth with the same speed and once again allow 100 million years to pass. That is the time evoltion scientists have predicted the "squibbon(see wiki)" would come about, a creature evolving from octopus coming to land and finally the tress with such an intelligence that it could form a whole new civilization. That could be the creature GOD is talking about in 2782
    At the right time, we will produce for them a creature from the earth declaring that the people are not certain about our revelations.
    What do you say? GOD Bless!

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      Peace all,
      I think the "amount of energy" problem resolves itself automatically because we must not forget that the fuel inside the spaceship would also be accelerating and thus become more energetic. So as the inertial mass of the space ship increases so does that of the fuel and so the spaceship can continue to accelerate (the acceleration dimishing ofcourse because sol cannot be overcome since fuel mass never actually reaches infinity but only approaches and ship with greater mass would have higher approach) getting the apce ship closer and closer to the speed of light. Now i dont know how much time relative to us it would take for the spaceship to reach 99.9999999999% of light since the acceleration is now diminishing well have to take tht into account. Lets say it took 350 days to reach 99.99%. But we must not forget 99.9999% is here relatively much more than 99.99% so now our acceleration mabe so low so tht it takes the same amount of time again i.e. another year to reach 99.9999% and then ten years to reach 99.999999% and millions of years RELATIVE TO US to reach 99.999999999% if we were to use the same fuel consumption as acceleration keeps diminishing. So the problem remains, we need more energy relative to us to get a relatively higher accelration at such high speeds. We probably need a plasma drive or something. Or maybe it does compensate as it gets faster fuel more energetic that would get it quickly to 99.9999% from 99.99% and then even wuicker to 99.999999% and so on. If this were the case we could by using the same consumption of fuel relative to us , pass the universe in a couple of seconds.
      Here the same issus have been discussed. Found this with difficulty
      http//uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=askastronomer&Number=405514&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=
      GOD Bless!

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        weinmar
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        Go make that spaceship

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          jonny_k
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          Peace,
          There is one problem i overlooked. I forgot to mention that the maximum RELATIVE observable speed is the speed of light. However to the insiders of the spaceship theyll feel continuous acceleration and the same amount of fuel would be consumed per hour as rekative to them. So the non-observable "speed" so to say would increase forever while the relative keeps on approaching that of the light BUT as i mentioned above it could take a long time to go to an obserable speed of even 99.999% from 99% of light compared to the outsider. Thus wed need a much much greater acceleration than "g" to apporch 99.999999999% of the speed of light relative to the outsider. We can calculate this like this. Say after one year we reach very close to speed of light and then 1 yr more at the same accelration we are double as fast but this time not in observable speed but in dilating the time for the outsider. This means from our viewpoint well reach an outsider's half light year distance in 3 months. Thus on travelling for tht amount of time wed be three months younger. The dilation factor thus now is 12(insideroutssider) after two years in the spaceship at acceleration "g". After 3 years itd be "13", after four "14" and so on. Thus it would require us a 100 million years of acceleration for the time dilation factor to be 1100,000,000 at acc "g". Thus we need more accelration but the body cannot withstand even 3g for long and so we must turn to a method of damping the "g" effect on the body but yet allowing us to accelerate which in my view does not make any sense so wer back at my original point i made once i.e. we need to accelrate each atom in our body AT ONCE in order not to be torn apart whilst accelrating infinitely. And then ofcourse we also need much more fuel relative to us again, so the same problems. Only good thing, time dilation stands real. If anyone can find of a method of acclrating all atoms enclosed in a room simultaneously please let me know. GOD Bless!

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            savage_carrot
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            This way we can see where evoltuion is going on earth without actually intervening.
            Once 100 million years have passed on the outside world i.e. the universe we turn back to planet earth with the same speed and once again allow 100 million years to pass. That is the time evoltion scientists have predicted the "squibbon(see wiki)" would come about, a creature evolving from octopus coming to land and finally the tress with such an intelligence that it could form a whole new civilization.

            So, you're proposing that we do this purely to observe evolution?

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              jonny_k
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              Peace sis "sc",

              So, you're proposing that we do this purely to observe evolution?

              JK- Ofcourse not but this would indeed be one os the most exciting observations IMO. GOD Bless!

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