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'Muhammad's' alleged letters.

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    truth
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    Peace,

    In some general reading I recalled that "Muhammad" is mentioned to have written letters to various heads of state and individuals. I don't have anything but the translations of the alleged letters to go on, but I find..

    1. It odd that these alleged writings by Muhammad were not destroyed, together with pieces of his teeth, alleged clippings of beard, woolen jumper; and yet the original manuscript of the Koran was allegedly burned.

    2. The content of the letters have a quality of fakeness to my thinking.

    Here is an example...

    LETTER TO NEGUS, KING OF ETHIOPIA

    In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

    From Muhammad (S.A.W.) Prophet of Allah to Negus King of Ethiopia.

    I praise Allah, except Whom there is none to be worshipped, who is the Ruler of the world. He is innocent and pure free from all blemishes, defects, flaws, or shortcomings). He gives refuge and sustains all.

    I do admit that Isa (Jesus) (A.S.) son of Mariam (Mary), was the soul from Allah and His word (Order), he was infused to Mariam, who was clean and proof against evil. And Isa(A.S.) was born of Mariam. Allah created him from His soul and breath in the same manner as He created Adam(A.S.) with His own hand. I invite you towards Allah the One who has no associate. Believe in Him and join me in obedience to Him. Follow me and accept my prophethood because I am the Messenger of Allah. I have wished - you well in conveying the message of Allah in all sincerity. It is up you to accept my sympathetic advice. Extend the same invitation to your subjects. I am sending my cousin Jaffer (R.A.A.) with the other Muslims. When they reach you, treat them hospitably, by setting aside the vanity and pride of a ruler.

    Peace be on him, who followed the right path.

    Here there is an invitation to believe in his prophethood and statement that he is the messenger of the God. There is also a seeming excessive buttering up of the 'Negus' with much content in relation to Isa/Mary. The part about Mary being "proof against evil" when no person is faultless is entirely suspect.

    LETTER TO HERACLES CAESAR

    In the name of Allah, the Compassionate and Merciful

    From Muhammad, who is the servant of Allah and His Prophet to Heracles Caesar.

    Peace be on him, who follows the right path.

    After this, I invite you to the fold of Islam. Therefore, if you desire security, accept Islam. If you accept Islam, Allah shall reward you doubly and if you refuse to do so, the responsibility for the transgression of the entire nation, shall be yours.

    O people of the Book! Leaving aside all matters of differences and disputes, agree on a thing, which is equally incontrovertible both as you and we are concerned and it is that we should not worship any one else with Him, nor regard any one else except Allah as our Sustainer.

    If you deny this, you must know that we believe in Oneness of Allah, in all circumstances.

    Seal Allah's Prophet Muhammad

    He puts all the blame and burden of transgression of the entire nation on the shoulders of one man - when we know that no person can bear the burden of another.

    LETTERS TO THE POPE OF ROME

    In the name Of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

    Peace be on him, who believes in Allah. I am of the faith that Isa (Jesus A.S.) son of Mariam (Mary) was the spirit of Allah and His word! Allah infused him in the pious Mariam.

    I believe in Allah, all His Books and His Commands which he sent to Me and which He sent to Ibrahim, Ismail, Ishaq and Yaqub (A.S.) and their descendants. I also believe in what was given to Musa and Isa (A.S.) and other prophets by Allah! In faith and belief, we do not differentiate in accepting any of the prophets. We are Muslims (meaning obedient to Allah) Peace be on him who follows the guidance.'

    Seal Allah's Prophet Muhammad

    Note Along with the letter to Caesar, the Holy Prophet (S.A.W.) had also sent a letter to the Pope. The latter testified to his Prophethood and observed, "No doubt, he is a true Prophet". Thereafter he addressed a congregation in the cathedral and informed the people that he had received a letter from the Arabian Prophet Ahmad (S.A.W.) who had invited them to accept the true faith of Allah, the One. He then testified that there is no god save Allah and that Ahmad (S.A.W.) was the servant and prophet of Allah. The people were highly infuriated to hear this truthful declaration and they beat him so much that he died.

    The story following is fanciful. I have not read of any pope who uttered those words.

    There are many more of these translations of alleged letters here...

    http//www.islamicresources.com/member/modules.php?name=Sections&op=listarticles&secid=5

    I have the feeling that all these letters and the stories surrounding them are fabrications. What think you?

    Regards.

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      Salam "truth",

      He puts all the blame and burden of transgression of the entire nation on the shoulders of one man - when we know that no person can bear the burden of another.

      JK- This is correct but IF a leader misguides his people knowingly THOSE PEOPLES' burdens would be put on him as well. Read
      Those who disbelieved said to those who believed, "If you follow our way, we will be responsible for your sins." Not true; they cannot bear any of their sins. They are liars.
      In fact, they will carry their own sins, in addition to loads of other people's sins for which they were responsible. Most certainly, they will be asked on the Day of Resurrection about their false claims.
      GOD Bless!

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        Salam "truth",

        He puts all the blame and burden of transgression of the entire nation on the shoulders of one man - when we know that no person can bear the burden of another.

        JK- This is correct but IF a leader misguides his people knowingly THOSE PEOPLES' burdens would be put on him as well. Read
        Those who disbelieved said to those who believed, "If you follow our way, we will be responsible for your sins." Not true; they cannot bear any of their sins. They are liars.
        In fact, they will carry their own sins, in addition to loads of other people's sins for which they were responsible. Most certainly, they will be asked on the Day of Resurrection about their false claims.
        GOD Bless!

        Peace Khizar,

        Yes I understand this also. My point was perhaps a little too subtle.

        There is no compulsion in religion; and yet the letter seems to hold a view that the leader is able to guide and convert everyone else if he decides to accept Islam.

        In a sense it has the view that Islam is a state religion - one that can be adopted by a nation in toto.

        Anyhow you may disagree.

        Regards.

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          Salam "truth",

          Peace Khizar,

          Yes I understand this also. My point was perhaps a little too subtle.

          There is no compulsion in religion; and yet the letter seems to hold a view that the leader is able to guide and convert everyone else if he decides to accept Islam.

          JK- What i understood from the letter is that if the leader WANTED TO LIVE IN PEACE AND TRANQUILITY along with his people then he would have to accept Islam. This is true for the legal laws in Quran Alone are indeed peaceful, rational and truly marevellous for a society as a whole.

          In a sense it has the view that Islam is a state religion - one that can be adopted by a nation in toto.

          Anyhow you may disagree.

          Regards.

          JK- Well the legal laws of Islam can be. Otherwise everyone has the right to believe in what he wants and practice his rituals based on his faith/belief. GOD Bless!

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            Salaams Truth,Jonny,

            And what is your view ,if any on this piece from HINDU "PURANAS" Scripture?

            "The Malechhas have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in that country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed ; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance the well-known Mahamad (Mohammad), who has been given by me the epithet of Brahma is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja! You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of a Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of 'Ashwar Parmatma (God, Supreme Spirit), I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat-eaters. My follower will be a man circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution, announcing call for prayer and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. Because of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmans (Muslims). I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nation."

            If you note one person is saying to the other that he is getting the so called Muhammad and his companions ready to preach Islam-his kind.

            THANKS.

            Salaams.

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              The_Sufi
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              It was a prophesy.

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                unknownuser
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                Salaams sufi,

                I was referring to the following saying by one person to other.

                "To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance the well-known Mahamad (Mohammad), WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN BY ME the epithet of Brahma is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path"

                What do you make of that PART.

                Sorry to say i can't believe in prophesies - according to the knowledge i have aquired in my life.

                Salaams Br.

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                  The_Sufi
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                  In my ignorance it seems to me the correct reading is "Who has been given by me THE EPIPHET of BRAHMA".

                  P.S. if it is not a prophesy then it is a nistar's wish.

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                    Riz
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                    It is suprising that these survived if they are real. But that isn't a reason to doubt their authenticity. Nothing in those letters stuck out as being un-Quranic to me. It seemed the oposite infact. Especially mentioning that "we don't differentiate between the prophets part."

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