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    33.37 And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him.
    But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed

    this verse is quite disturbing to me , why does Allah almighty want prophet muhammed to get married to zaids divorced wife just because he wants tht there should be no doubt in believers mind in regard of getting married their adopted sons divorced wife , he could just tell clearly in quran tht u can gett married to ur adopted sons divorced wife .

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      Hello

      I believe the answer to your question may be in the sirah (biography) of the prophet, here is the bit that relates to your question if you care to read it

      ZAYNAB bint Jahsh
      Zaynab bint Jahsh married the Prophet Muhammad (p) in 5 AH, when she was thirty-five and the Prophet was fifty-eight, but only after her pervious marriage, which had been arranged by the Prophet himself, had ended in divorce. As with all the marriages of the Prophet Muhammad, there was much for all the Muslims to learn from it. Zaynab bint Jahsh was the Prophet Muhammad's cousin, her mother Umayma being the daughter of Abdul Muttalib, Muhammad's grandfather, who, while he was alive, had ensured the safety of his grandson, thanks to his position as one of the most respected leaders of the Quraish. Thus Zaynab bint Jahsh came from one of the noblest families of the Quraish, and everyone expected her to eventually marry a man with the same high social status.

      The Prophet (p) was well aware that it is a person's standing in the eyes of Allah that is important, rather than his or her status in the eyes of the people. He wanted her to marry a young man called Zayd ibn Harith, whose background was very different to that of Zaynab bint Jahsh. Zayd had been taken prisoner while he was still a child during one of the inter-tribal wars that had been common before the coming of Islam. He had been sold as a slave to a nephew of Khadijah who had given Zayd to her as a gift. In turn, Khadijah had given him to the Prophet Muhammad (p) in the days before the revelation of the Qur'an had begun, and the Prophet (p) had given him his freedom and adopted him as his own son, at the age of eight.

      The Prophet Muhammad (p) had watched both Zayd and Zaynab grow up, and thought they would make a good couple, and that their marriage would demonstrate that it was not who their ancestors were, but rather their standing in the sight of Allah, that mattered. When the Prophet (p) asked for her hand on behalf of Zayd, Zaynab had her family were shocked at the idea of her marrying a man who in their eyes was only a freed slave. Moreover, Zaynab had wanted to marry the Prophet (p) himself and in fact he had already been asked by her family whether or not he would like to marry her. At first both she and her brother refused, but then the following ayat was revealed

      It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger, to have any say in their decision; and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has most clearly gone astray.

      When Zayd, who had also had misgivings about the proposed match, and Zaynab realized that there was no difference between what the Prophet wanted and what Allah wanted, they both agreed to the marriage, the Prophet providing a handsome dowry for Zaynab on Zayd's behalf. The marriage, however, was not a success. Although both Zaynab and Zayd were the best of people, who loved Allah and His Messenger, they were very different and in the end they could not overcome their incompatibility. Zayd asked the Prophet's permission to divorce Zaynab more than once, and although he was counseled to hold onto his wife and to fear Allah, in the end the divorce took place. The Prophet (p) then was ordered by Allah to marry Zaynab bint Jahsh, while he did in 5 AH, when he was fifty-eight years old, and she was thirty-five years old. In doing so, he demonstrated beyond doubt that in Islam an adopted son is not regarded in the same light as a natural son, and that although a father may never marry a woman whom his natural son has married and then divorced, the father of an adopted son is permitted to marry a woman who was once, but is no longer, married to that adopted son. Furthermore, by marrying Zaynab, the Prophet (p) also confirmed that it is permissible for cousins to marry, and , at the same time, Zaynab was given her heart's desire to be married to the Best of Creation.

      The Messenger of Allah (p) received the command to marry Zaynab while he was with A'isha. After he had received the revelation, he smiled and said, "Who will go and give Zaynab the good news?" and he recited the ayat that he had received. Some say that it was Zayd himself who told her the good news. When Zaynab heard the news, she stopped what she was doing and prayed to thank Allah. Afterwards, she was fond of pointing out that her marriage had been arranged by Allah. It was at this point that the Prophet changed her name from Barra to Zaynab.

      Zaynab's wedding feast was also the occasion for another ayat of Qur'an to be sent down. The Prophet (p) sacrificed a sheep and then commanded his servant, Anas, to invite the people to partake of it. After they had eaten, two men remained there after the meal chatting. The Messenger of Allah went out and said goodnight to his other wives and then came back and the two men were still there chatting. It was very hard on the Prophet who did not like to criticize people directly, and so he waited patiently until they left. Then Allah sent down the following ayat

      O you who believe! Do not go into the Prophet's rooms except after being given permission to come and eat, not waiting for the food to be prepared, However, when you are called, then go in and when you have eaten, then disperse, and do not remain wanting to chat together.

      If you do that, it causes injury to the Prophet though he is too reticent to tell you. But Allah is not reticent with the truth. When you ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a screen. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts.

      It is not for you to cause injury to the Messenger of Allah nor ever to marry his wives after him. TO do that would be something dreadful in the sight of Allah. Whether you make something known or conceal it, Allah has knowledge of all things. There is no blame on them regarding their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their brothers' s sons or their sisters' s sons or their women or those their right hands own. Have fear of Allah. Allah is witness over everything.

      Allah and His angels pray blessings of the Prophet. O you who believe! Pray blessings on him and ask for peace for him.

      Zaynab was a woman who was constantly immersed in the worship of Allah. It is told by Anas ibn Malik that once the Prophet (p) entered the mosque and found a rope hanging down between two of the pillars, and so he said, "What is this?" He was told, "It is for Zaynab. She prays, and when she loses concentration or feels tired, she holds onto it." At this time the Prophet said, "Untie it. Pray as long as you feel fresh, but when you lose concentration or become tired, you should stop."

      Zaynab bint Jahsh was with the Prophet (p) for six years, and lived for another nine years after his death, dying at the age of fifty, in 20 AH, and thus fulfilling the Prophet's indication that she would be the first of his wives to die aftehim. Zaynab bint Jahsh, like Zaynab bint Khuzayma before her, was very generous to the poor, and indeed the Prophet said, when speaking of her to his other wives, "She is the most generous among you."

      The Messenger of Allah said to Umar, "Zaynab bint Jahsh is one who is full of prayer." A man said, "Messenger of Allah, what is that?" He said, "The one who is humble and earnest in prayer." A'isha also said that Zaynab, "I have never seen a woman so pure as Zaynab, so God-fearing, so truthful, so attentive to family ties, so generous, so self-sacrificing in everyday life, so charitable, and thus so close to Allah, the Exalted."

      Several years after the Prophet (p) had died, when Umar was the khalif, great wealth came to the Muslims as a result of their victories in fighting the Persians. The immense treasures of Chosroes, the Persian Emperor, fell into their hands, and when Umar sent Zaynab a pile of gold as her share of the treasure, she called her maid servant and told her to take a handful of it to so-and-so, naming one of the poor people of Medina. One after another, she named all the poor people whom she knew, until they had all received a share of the treasure. Then she told her maidservant to see what was left. All that remained of the large pile of gold was eighty dinars, and this she accepted as her share, thanking Allah for it; but, because she believed so much money was a temptation, she asked Allah that she would never witness such a large distribution of wealth again.

      By the time a year had passed, when Umar again came to distribute money amongst those wives of the Prophet who were still alive, her prayer had been granted for she had already passed away, may Allah be pleased with her.

      Peace be with you

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        peace samina/ahmed,

        this is how the critics view this marriage

        The Fifth Wife - Zainab, His Adopted Son?s Ex-wife
        One day Muhammad went to visit the house of his adopted son Zeyd, but Zeyd was not there. Muhammad accidentally saw Zeyd?s wife, Zainab, unveiled. Smitten by her beauty, Muhammad exclaimed, "Praise belongeth unto God who turneth the hearts of men as He will." These words were overheard by Zainab, who, proud of her conquest, told her husband of it. Zeyd went to Muhammad and offered to divorce his wife for him. At first Muhammad refused, for it was a thing unheard of to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son; but Zeyd carried out his proposal. Muhammad at last resolved to have Zainab.
        ..

        The marriage caused great scandal . To save his reputation, Muhammad sought to justify his conduct by affirming that it was done by Allah?s command Sura-33 (Al-Ahzab) verse 36.37.38

        (Muhammad) said, 'What is the matter with thee? Has anything made thee doubtful of her?'. (Zaid) said, 'No, by God, I have seen nothing (done) by her but what is good; but truly her dignity is too exalted for me'. Accordingly he said to him, 'Keep thy wife to thyself' ... 'Therefore when Zaid satisfied a requirement from her', i.e. a need; since he wearied of her, and he divorced her, and her time was completed ...'We wedded her to thee' ... the meaning is that He commanded him to wed her, or He made her his (Muhammad's) wife without the interposition of a marriage-contract. And what confirms it (this explanation) is that she used to say to the rest of the Prophet's wives, 'Verily God acted the part of a relative in my being given in marriage, and, as for you, your relatives gave you in marriage'. And it is said that Zaid was the go-between in her betrothal, and that was a real trial, and an evident witness to the strength of his faith".
        Commentary of Al Baizawi, Vol. PP, p. 129; Mizanu'l Haqq, pp. 331-332

        "Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to Zaid to make a mention to her about him. Zaid went on until he came to her and she was fermenting her flour. He (Zaid) said As I saw her I felt in my heart an idea of her greatness so much so that I could not see towards her (simply for a fact) and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had made a mention of her. So I turned my back towards her, and I turned upon my heels and said Zainab, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has sent (me) with a message to you. She said I do not do anything until I consult the will of my Lord. So she stood at er place of worship and the (verses of) the Qur'an (pertaining to her marriage) were revealed, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to her without permission".
        Sahih Muslim II, p. 724

        And this is the "revelation" which was then given
        Sura-33 (Al-Ahzab)
        36?It is not fitting for a Believer man or woman when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision if anyone disobeys Allah and His Apostle he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.
        37?Behold! thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest thou didst fear the people but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her with the necessary (formality) We joined her in marriage to thee in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them and Allah's command must be fulfilled.

        38?There can be no difficulty to the Prophet in what Allah has indicated to him as a duty. It was the practice (approved) of Allah amongst those of old that have passed away and the command of Allah is a decree determined.

        Volume 7, Book 62, Number 97Narrated Anas The Prophet did not give a better wedding banquet on the occasion of marrying any of his wives than the one he gave on marrying Zainab, and that banquet was with (consisted of) one sheep.
        Zainab vaunted herself as the only wife of Muhammad who had been given in marriage by Allah Himself.

        peace.

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          peace samina/ahmed,

          this is how the critics view this marriage

          The Fifth Wife - Zainab, His Adopted Son?s Ex-wife
          One day Muhammad went to visit the house of his adopted son Zeyd, but Zeyd was not there. Muhammad accidentally saw Zeyd?s wife, Zainab, unveiled. Smitten by her beauty, Muhammad exclaimed, "Praise belongeth unto God who turneth the hearts of men as He will." These words were overheard by Zainab, who, proud of her conquest, told her husband of it. Zeyd went to Muhammad and offered to divorce his wife for him. At first Muhammad refused, for it was a thing unheard of to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son; but Zeyd carried out his proposal. Muhammad at last resolved to have Zainab.
          ..

          The marriage caused great scandal . To save his reputation, Muhammad sought to justify his conduct by affirming that it was done by Allah?s command Sura-33 (Al-Ahzab) verse 36.37.38

          (Muhammad) said, 'What is the matter with thee? Has anything made thee doubtful of her?'. (Zaid) said, 'No, by God, I have seen nothing (done) by her but what is good; but truly her dignity is too exalted for me'. Accordingly he said to him, 'Keep thy wife to thyself' ... 'Therefore when Zaid satisfied a requirement from her', i.e. a need; since he wearied of her, and he divorced her, and her time was completed ...'We wedded her to thee' ... the meaning is that He commanded him to wed her, or He made her his (Muhammad's) wife without the interposition of a marriage-contract. And what confirms it (this explanation) is that she used to say to the rest of the Prophet's wives, 'Verily God acted the part of a relative in my being given in marriage, and, as for you, your relatives gave you in marriage'. And it is said that Zaid was the go-between in her betrothal, and that was a real trial, and an evident witness to the strength of his faith".
          Commentary of Al Baizawi, Vol. PP, p. 129; Mizanu'l Haqq, pp. 331-332

          "Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to Zaid to make a mention to her about him. Zaid went on until he came to her and she was fermenting her flour. He (Zaid) said As I saw her I felt in my heart an idea of her greatness so much so that I could not see towards her (simply for a fact) and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had made a mention of her. So I turned my back towards her, and I turned upon my heels and said Zainab, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has sent (me) with a message to you. She said I do not do anything until I consult the will of my Lord. So she stood at er place of worship and the (verses of) the Qur'an (pertaining to her marriage) were revealed, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to her without permission".
          Sahih Muslim II, p. 724

          And this is the "revelation" which was then given
          Sura-33 (Al-Ahzab)
          36?It is not fitting for a Believer man or woman when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision if anyone disobeys Allah and His Apostle he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.
          37?Behold! thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest thou didst fear the people but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her with the necessary (formality) We joined her in marriage to thee in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them and Allah's command must be fulfilled.

          38?There can be no difficulty to the Prophet in what Allah has indicated to him as a duty. It was the practice (approved) of Allah amongst those of old that have passed away and the command of Allah is a decree determined.

          Volume 7, Book 62, Number 97Narrated Anas The Prophet did not give a better wedding banquet on the occasion of marrying any of his wives than the one he gave on marrying Zainab, and that banquet was with (consisted of) one sheep.
          Zainab vaunted herself as the only wife of Muhammad who had been given in marriage by Allah Himself.

          peace.

          I know bro, it is just a bunch of lies, i say you should label them enemies not critics

          See, in the human world, we always end up with two stories, and sometimes more, like who killed J F K or even who killed J R lol

          Aren't we "the humans" just wasting our time chasing things which at the end of the day every party will stand firm to their position?

          Can you please tell me bro, was 9/11 attacks mastermibned by the Amercians as many suggested including the American themselves?, i guuess this is not too far only 4 years away and the specualtions at its peak, imagine 1400 years later bro lol

          Peace be with you

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            peace Ahmed,
            you wrote

            I know bro, it is just a bunch of lies, i say you should label them enemies not critics

            the irony is that all these books are still being called very authentic and their scholars/writters are respected for their contribution in preserving the history of islam. the study of such books are the basic course for the student of religious madrasas.
            sometime it confuses me and i wonder why none have tried to remove/edit all such absurdities from these books.

            See, in the human world, we always end up with two stories, and sometimes more, like who killed J F K or even who killed J R

            Aren't we "the humans" just wasting our time chasing things which at the end of the day every party will stand firm to their position?

            Can you please tell me bro, was 9/11 attacks mastermibned by the Amercians as many suggested including the American themselves?, i guuess this is not too far only 4 years away and the specualtions at its peak, imagine 1400 years later bro

            you are right brother.

            peace.

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              salam

              instead of discussing abt hadith related issues , pls can even give me relevant information from Quran , i am confused n disturbed dats y i have come here to seek answers , dis isnt hadith discussion dis questions abt the quran ,

              and i want answers from quran since quran is complete and detailed and is a book from Allah not from man made hadith

              pls help me pple i am really disturbed

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                salam

                i dont want any information from hadith ,hadith is man wriiten record of books which have no gurantee of being correct, i believe quran to be the ultimate ,complete,accurate book from Allah ,
                i have a doubt in quran (Allah s book ) n pple r givin me answers from hadith(man made books)

                so to answer somethin from Allah s book we need man made books

                i am certainly not comfortable with this

                i am askin dis to all the pple on da forum who belive in quran alone ,
                dis is a doubt from quran n i need an answer from quran itself ,pls do help me , and clear of dis doubt in ma mind

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                  peace samina,
                  you wrote

                  i dont want any information from hadith ,hadith is man wriiten record of books which have no gurantee of being correct, i believe quran to be the ultimate ,complete,accurate book from Allah ,
                  i have a doubt in quran (Allah s book ) n pple r givin me answers from hadith(man made books)

                  so to answer somethin from Allah s book we need man made books

                  i am certainly not comfortable with this

                  i am askin dis to all the pple on da forum who belive in quran alone ,
                  dis is a doubt from quran n i need an answer from quran itself ,pls do help me , and clear of dis doubt in ma mind

                  sorry sis it was never my intention to make you uncomfortable, but any way please accept my apology.
                  please ponder on these verses of quran they clearly tell us about the women who are forbidden.

                  323-Forbidden unto you are YOUR MOTHERS, and YOUR DAUGHTERS, and YOUR SISTERS, and YOUR FATHER'S SISTERS, and YOUR MOTHER'S SISTERS, and YOUR BROTHER'S DAUGHTERS and YOUR SISTER'S DAUGHTERS, and YOUR FOSTER MOTHERS, and YOUR FOSTER SISTERS, and YOUR MOTHERS-IN-LAW, and YOUR STEPDAUGHTERS who are under your protection (born) of your women unto whom ye have gone in but if ye have not gone in unto them, then it is no sin for you (to marry their daughters) and THE WIVES OF YOUR SONS who (spring) from your own loins. And (it is forbidden unto you) that ye should have TWO SISTERS TOGETHER, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.

                  324-And ALL MARRIED WOMEN (ARE FORBIDDEN UNTO YOU save those (captives) WHOM YOUR RIGHT HANDS POSSESS. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise.

                  sinse zaid was an adopted son

                  quran says
                  334-Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers NOR HAS HE MADE YOUR ADOPTED SONS YOUR SONS. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah tells (you) the Truth and He shows the (right) Way.

                  335-CALL THEM BY (THE NAMES) OF THEIR FATHERS that is juster in the sight of Allah but if ye know not their father's (names call them) your Brothers in faith or your Maulas. But there is no blame on you if ye make a mistake therein (what counts is) the intention of your hearts and Allah is Oft-Returning Most Merciful.

                  3337-Behold! thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest thou didst fear the people but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her with the necessary (formality) We joined her in marriage to thee in order that (in future) THERE MAY BE NO DIFFICULTY TO THE BELIEVERS IN (THE MATTER OF) MARRIAGE WITH THE WIVES OF THEIR ADOPTED SONS when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them and Allah's command must be fulfilled.

                  i think that the prophet also had some feelings toward zainab as the above verse indicates.
                  well this is my own understanding, there are many brothers/sisters on this forum who have a much better understanding of Quran then me so please dont be impatient i am sure they will explain it for in detail.

                  peace.

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                    i think that the prophet also had some feelings toward zainab as the above verse indicates.
                    well this is my own understanding, there are many brothers/sisters on this forum who have a much better understanding of Quran then me so please dont be impatient i am sure they will explain it for in detail.

                    peace.

                    Peace bro

                    I believe not bro, the feelings mentioned in the verse was about the prophet feelings when he knew that he has to marry his ex daughter in law, he felt the people will see it as something odd, exactly as sister samina saw it, so he was shy about it and a bit emnbarssed too I guess, so Allah is telling him to not to be as it is going to be manifest to the public through the Quran, and everyone will know it, wow after 1400 years we still talk about it as if it was a bad deed by Mohammad and NOT an order from Allah to marry her as the Quran told us

                    Zineb was his cousin anyway and if he wanted to marry her before zaid he would have done it, ironically the prophet was the one who arranged the marriage of Zainab and Zaid

                    Peace man

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