GOTHIC SYMBOLS
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Peace,
Always wonder why all sorts of bats, snakes, dragons, monsters etc are on the European architecture.....Why the masons/stonecutters/designers of the past spent so much effort making these? Is there a deeper meaning associate with these things? Also heard that there are Muslim Masonic Lodges in some countries, is that fact?
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Peace,
Always wonder why all sorts of bats, snakes, dragons, monsters etc are on the European architecture.....Why the masons/stonecutters/designers of the past spent so much effort making these? Is there a deeper meaning associate with these things? Also heard that there are Muslim Masonic Lodges in some countries, is that fact?
In the norse mythology snakes was a big part. snakes represented the same as it did in the eastern world, wich is why we find "midgaardsormen" in the asatru from the norse. midgaardsormen littereally translates into "worm of the middle earth".
The celtics, gothics and similar cultures shared deity's and spiritual ideas.To the masonic brotherhoods the snake represents the story from the bible most likely. The fall of man by eating the fruit of knowledge (amanita muscaria most likely). They abhor the god of the bible, quran and tanach, and say he is an evil and wraithfull god who doesnt want his servants to be anything but dumb animals. the satan on the other hand, the serpent wanted man to have knowledge, wich would make the snake a good guy. However, this debate is as old as the scriptures themselkf wich is why we find many traces thereoff in the scriptures.
we have moses being the leader of a mushroom cult, wich is obvious from the bible, we have the tribe of Dan, the serpent, wich some lodges belive to be decended from through blood. this is especially the royal arch degrees who always have a snake or dragon as symbol, wich is why a researcher like David Icke goes on a rampage about how this symbol is connected to the old days and that the royals must be reptilians.
The god we know as JHVH is 98% certain the evil summerian entity called Enlil. Who didnt want man (his creation) to become powerfull or aware. He wanted man as loyal slaves, where his brother Enki (meaning archtype) who was afraid of Enlil wanted man to have knowledge so he himself could make choices based on information.
If we connect this to lemurian legend, and the likeliness of these 2 characters (that we now know as god and satan), Enki could only communicate with the "eve?s"- The adam?s were narrowminded brutes and dumb as a brick. the eves however where interrested in Enki being a beutiful man, and they were very curious and soon learned the arcane of divination. This is why everybody had godesses before in time, and because of the earth mother.
What im telling you here is not my pet belief, but the relegios philosophy present in the secret societys. .But there is so much more to it than that. Most of the theology present in these lodges are "make belief". a legend here, a legend there, mnix in some bible a little quran and you have a lodge rite. The foundation of masonic principals however is dark arcane, and witchcraft.
a compare between rituals;
masonic rite 1 - the initition
The initiate comes in to a circle blind folded, and kneel on the floor. A spear is put to his chest and the question is posed, "who goes there?". The correct answer is "someone in the dark searching for the light".
And under threat of the pain of death, the initiate is welcomed into the lodge as a blue degree.witchcraft initition rite
The initiate comes in to a circle blind folded, and kneel on the floor. A sword is put to his throat and the question is posed, "who goes there?". The correct answer is "a poor spirit searching for the light".
And under threat of the pain of death, the initiate is welcomed into the circle.can you spot the difference?
So if you want to understand all these symbols, the oak, the acorn, the "star of david" (in reality the star of saturn), the pyramid etc.. look into dark druidism(*) and ancient witchcraft, and you will start to realise what we are up against. When God is specific in naming the names of the god?s of Noah?s people, you better go back and look at it again in the context of witchcraft. Mason?s alway refer to their organisation and knowledge as "the craft".
is freemasons and masonic brethren the same....in short, no!
When it comes to europe, it was primarily shaped by royal?s and masons. most people both know, and acknowledge this fact over here. They claim to be christians, and i say it is rightly so. christians is worshipping the sun, they just no longer call it baal, mithra, buddha, krishna or horus. The new born sun is called Jesus. This stuff is nothing but astortheology, or astrotheology. so these pagan family?s just took on a "new" relegion whilst still being loyal to their old ways, and incorporating principals from the new sun relegion. SUNnism and shiitism being the youngest of the sun relegions, alltho the writers of their scriptures wasnt too good at the original theology of the sun, so they took the parts they could remember and added some of their own stuff. Wich is why we have mohammad performing miracles with water (heard that before?), why he had 12 close sahaba, and know 12.000 by their names (heard that one before?). We read in an old sun worship scripture (the bible) that "faith moves ountains"
, so what is flying over to mohammad when he didnt want to come to it?
im sure you get the point.The Quran however...is strangely different from the other scriptures, it is clinically clinsed from anything resembling star worship. but im still looking, and so far sura 82 is very interresting but i still need to examine it further.
(*) The haha information - Dark druids was heavily into illusionary magick, and their most efficient tool was a magic wand. Like merlin (celtic druid) and his magic wand. And these tools of manipulation was always made out of the wood of a holly tree. Hollywood! And they are still working their illusions on us. Altso this is likely where the english term "holy" came from.
This and ancient belief systems is my favorite subject, so go ahead and ask anything and i will answer to my best efford and knowledge.
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I know the masons are more into the directions than anything else/ the four directions play a major role in al rituals, and the intiation is for more complicated and involves more tests than the spear. Aparently it is not uncommon for some to wet their pants during the leap of faith test
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I know the masons are more into the directions than anything else/ the four directions play a major role in al rituals, and the intiation is for more complicated and involves more tests than the spear. Aparently it is not uncommon for some to wet their pants during the leap of faith test
the initiation ceremony is excactly like that. lodges then differ in their rituals depending on what story they have told their folowers, but this is the basic principle. Yes and they have a different world card than ours. East is up, where our maps have north in the top.
regarding to the directions, it has 2 meanings. 1.its sun worship, you have to know where "god" is. 2. rulers of the 4 corners of the earth. the builders of the world. Jesus is in the bible called the chief cornerstone. I find that interresting, seen in this light.
but as you progress, the rituals become more and more blood dripping and insane (imho).
Altso there are many arab lodges. The whole philosophy is widely borrowed from the semitic speaking area, and egypt.
I am from a family of masons, and know first hand a lot of the blue degree rites. that said, blue degree members may hold a high position in society, but in the masonic powerstructure they are gophers. all of them.
The higher ranking lodges and members are "knighted". e.g The Bush dynasty is knights of eulogia, where father Bush holds the name magog.
The blue degrees does not knight their members, but they can become high initiates or high priests.edit regarding the directions, it is altso directly linked to druidism and witchcraft btw.
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when you search for this stuff on the internet, beware of christian fundamentalist researchers, as they have a tendency to "color" the facts to make it stand out more from the bible version they hold dear.
Masons are not evil par se, or powermongers. Most are totally unaware what they are a member of, or its signifigance in the world today. To them its a cosy night away from the mussis where local deals are made in trade and politics. May not sound like much of a problem, but it is. To any democracy these organisations is pure poison to both the idea of democracy and the democracy itself. THere has been no democracy since the byzantine city states, but secret societys has sold a perverted version of it under cover of european roalty (mind you that socrates, plato and other thinkers themself was "adepts" into various lodges). The motto being "knowledge shared is information and freedom, knowledge kept, is power".
I do have a horn in the side of royalty as i find it as filthy as anything from the lowest of the low, and think about it. Nearly simultaniously all over the world, royalty suddenly "officially" gave their power to the people. or did they? here is where it is no longer occult in a spirtual sense, but occult in a practical one. Look into international banking and its connection to the vatican and royalty. When you understand roylty and its connections, many things will become obvious, especially regarding the lodge dwellers.
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Beware of Masonry...
I was told(and I cannot say by whom) that once you become a 3rd degree Mason i believe it was, that you are introduced to the true god of the Masons,known as Jabulon,which is a corruption of the names of Jah the Hebrew God,Bul the Canaanite god Bel and On the Egyptian god Osirus.So in reality their one god is really 3 in one.The 4 direction link to Druidism is a myth,the ancient Druids and Celts believed in 5 directions
Center=spirit
North=air
East=land
South=fire
West=water -
Beware of Masonry...
I was told(and I cannot say by whom) that once you become a 3rd degree Mason i believe it was, that you are introduced to the true god of the Masons,known as Jabulon,which is a corruption of the names of Jah the Hebrew God,Bul the Canaanite god Bel and On the Egyptian god Osirus.So in reality their one god is really 3 in one.The 4 direction link to Druidism is a myth,the ancient Druids and Celts believed in 5 directions
Center=spirit
North=air
East=land
South=fire
West=waterNot it is not a myth at all. Look around you, the symbols of druidism is everywhere. Ask yourself why, as these lodges claims to be christian. as for the center, that is the circle you stand in. symbolised throughout the world as the sun ring with a spot inside. the spot being you in the rituals. take a look at Manley p. Hall?s schoolarship, altho he doesnt make the druid link too obvious he make it known.
Look at the ritual performed at bohemian grove to bridgit/minerva, wich alex jones claimed was molech because his target audience is bible thumbing xtians. It is bridgit/minerva without a shred of doubt, wich in no uncertain terms link druidism and romanism to the top of the p?owerstructure of the world. We have hollywood, we have the facsist ideologies using druidic principles of manipulation and druidic symbols etc.
To say that there is no link to druidism because we only talk about 4 directions is unbased. in the same way ALL belief systems have 5 corners including the spirit, but most just doesnt count it in.
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Not it is not a myth at all. Look around you, the symbols of druidism is everywhere. Ask yourself why, as these lodges claims to be christian. as for the center, that is the circle you stand in. symbolised throughout the world as the sun ring with a spot inside. the spot being you in the rituals. take a look at Manley p. Hall?s schoolarship, altho he doesnt make the druid link too obvious he make it known.
Thanks Magi,
You are right, thats how i feel here in Europe, when all these monsters look at me from the buildings. Do you read David Icke's books?
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Not it is not a myth at all. Look around you, the symbols of druidism is everywhere. Ask yourself why, as these lodges claims to be christian. as for the center, that is the circle you stand in. symbolised throughout the world as the sun ring with a spot inside. the spot being you in the rituals. take a look at Manley p. Hall?s schoolarship, altho he doesnt make the druid link too obvious he make it known.
Thanks Magi,
You are right, thats how i feel here in Europe, when all these monsters look at me from the buildings. Do you read David Icke's books?
Yes i am familiar with Icke?s work. But im unimpressed with the fact that he pretty much stole the schoolarship of Jordan Maxwell, and progressed on to creating his own new age relegion with it. EVERYTHING that Icke is talking about he stole 11 from maxwell, and then later added his own spiritual hoolabaloo.
That said, i very much enjoy Ickes lectures. He is a ball of energy, and it is clear that he beliefes in what he has to say, wich make a hell of a difference on a lecturer. Icke is the european branch manager of conspiracy stuff from the US from the 60and 70?s. Where much of it is valid, a lot of it is wishfull thinking on his behalf. Altso i think it is bullshit that he doesnt go more into catholicism, and its pagan origin and influence on even the modern world through shady banking deals. Why does he take a swing at the sun theology, but not the biggest advertiser for it ever known to man. the vatican?.