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"Al- lah", what does this mean?

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    Wilson
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    Peace,

    Is it "allah" or "illah" used in the following verse?

    (12) Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena

    Allah. written as "li Allahi"; "lillahi" spoken.
    li (to) Allah (The God).

    (27) Khatama Allahu AAala quloobihim...

    In this verse there is no "li (to) Allah",
    just "Allahu AAala" = "The God on/upon".

    Why then is the word Allah sometimes written
    as "Allahi" and sometimes as "Allahu"?
    Grammar rules...

    Wilson

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      unknownuser
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      Peace be upon you,

      So are you saying that Allah = Al + Ilah?

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        darguzaraznaam
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        greetings idolfree,

        expanding on what mu'min has written

        the last vowel sound on a singular noun indicates the 'case' (nominitive, accusative or genitive) of the noun which relates to its function in the sentence.

        Thus 27 starts 'khatama allaahu...' because Allah is the subject doing the action 'khatama'

        But 29 starts 'yukhaadioon allaaha...' because Allah is the object of the verb 'they try to deceive'

        Similarly, 'allaahi' will be found after prepositions that need the genitive case (like li, min, fi, etc. etc.). This genitive is also used in connecting adjectives/nouns together.

        Regular plural nouns also change their endings depending on case, and this is the reason it is sometimes 'muminoon' and sometimes 'mumineen' etc.

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          sawtooth
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          Never in my life have i encountered and more complicated language or one with more interpretations of it's meaning.

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            unknownuser
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            Peace be upon you Darguzaraznaam,

            Thank you for breaking that down for me, this is what I needed.

            Now, my only uncertainty comes from how the "i" is dropped off of "ilah" and an "L" is added to make "Allah". Is this grammatically correct?

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              agentxxx
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              peace id1,

              has it anything to do with al-lat?

              peace

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                unknownuser
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                idolfree1 wrote

                So are you saying that Allah = Al + Ilah?

                yes, that's probably correct.

                the root word for "Ilah" is debated. Some say it comes from the verb "alaha" ( while others claim the root is verb "a'al" (&#1604 - past tense / "ya'ooloo" (&#1604- present tense.
                I support this second opinion.

                I could have sworn I made a post about this before...
                Some posts have a funny way of dissapearing sometimes.. ?

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                  el-Aziz
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                  Sometimes I get the feeling that as with other words (that are safe to assume they are derived from Aramaic) in arabic, it seems logic that all?h Comes from Aramaic al?ha, with the letter Olap (ar alif) in the end. There are othere similar derivations such as ?l?ma - sal?m where the olap is stripped off in the end again.

                  I believe that All?h is actually to be read Al?h with no article to it. Why the double l?m, I have no idea. Maye something that was added later during the compilation of the Koran.

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace be upon you Agentxxx,

                    has it anything to do with al-lat?

                    The structure seems awfully similar, but I dont have enough knowledge about it, I was hoping someone with a good understanding of Arabic would comment on that.

                    I did hear someone mention one time that "allah" was the masculine of the female "allat", but I dont know.

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                      agentxxx
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                      peace idolfree1,
                      you wrote

                      The structure seems awfully similar, but I dont have enough knowledge about it, I was hoping someone with a good understanding of Arabic would comment on that.

                      I did hear someone mention one time that "allah" was the masculine of the female "allat", but I dont know.

                      thank you brother id1, i too remember reading somethink similiar, but i cant recall where?

                      peace.

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