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    Still waiting for the answer? I need scientific evidence for evolution. Give me an explanation at a molecular biological level.

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      A particular cellular function goes from DNA>RNA>mRNA>Protein. It does not go from the other way, such as Protein>mRNA>RNA>DNA. If evolution has to occur this has to be achieved, and its not. Why not? Because its not as simple as that; the DNA is translated faithfully by a machinery of proteins to a piece of RNA in the nucleus. It is then transported to the cytoplasm by a machinery of proteins through the pores of the nucleus. This RNA is processed by a machinery of proteins, were the Introns are removed and the Exons are jouined together. After joining it become mRNA (messenger RNA), which is edited further by a machinery of proteins, and a poly A tail is addded to its 3' end and its 5' end is Capped to stabalise it. This mRNA is then translated by a complicated machinery to produce protein, which at the same time pushed in to the ER by a machinery of proteins, where it take its functional shape in a split second! Some of these proteins are then further processed by a machinery of proteins, such as N-terminally blocking it, for stability.

      What evolution is saying that all this has evolved, I want to know how? There is not a single scientific fact about it ! .

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        Sometimes things adapt to the surrounding due to the activation and/or silence of certain genes at the level of transcription or even translation. However the overall genomic DNA is fixed, it doesn't change. It does change sometimes with mutagens and/or radiation which is not good and often desasterous.

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          Peace bmbmm, all

          You said that mutations in the DNA do occur due to radiations. Don't you think that the god who created all that exists, can send a meteorite with the specific velocity and composition... so as that the impact with the earth, would produce the very specific amount of radiations that is necessary to provoke mutations in some specific species and exterminate others?

          This process could be repeated as much as needed to produce the multitude of species that populate the earth; Just have a look at the surface of our neighbour the moon, you would be amazed of how often this phenomenon occurs.

          This is one possible way to provoke 'jumps' in evolution, there are surely other ways.

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            Hi Someone....

            Some 1 i agree with you anything can be possible, even evolution. The problem we have with evolution is there is no evidence for it.

            "so as that the impact with the earth, would produce the very specific amount of radiations that is necessary to provoke mutations in some specific species and exterminate others?"

            The above is possible, but what evolutionist are telling us in a very cunning, or perhaps stupid way that life arise by chance, which I cannot agree.

            "This process could be repeated as much as needed to produce the multitude of species that populate the earth; Just have a look at the surface of our neighbour the moon, you would be amazed of how often this phenomenon occurs."

            Do you really think repeating this process produce a multitude of species on earth?

            Ya it is happening on the moon but is there life there? Even if a DNA dublex is brought to the moon, and even if there is enough water with it to stabalise the bases (A,T,G,C), were will the protein component gona come from that would replicate it? Even if this protein component survive the temperature on impact, which according to science is impossibe; where will the protein machinery for Transcription process assemble from?

            There are various possibilities...I used to consider evolution but after studies and doing a PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, I totally reject this idea. Simply because it does not have any basis...scientifically.

            Evolution is just a racist concept because according to evolution black man is inferior.

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              Lets list some points why muslims out there do not reason. I personally think that they have given eveything to the mulanas, mulvis and imams the muslim vicars. How can we turn this around?

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                Lets list some points why muslims out there do not reason. I personally think that they have given eveything to the mulanas, mulvis and imams the muslim vicars. How can we turn this around?

                By teaching them to think for themselves, question everything, and keeping a healthy skepticism. Unfortunately all three are not usually included in conventional religious education.

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                  you hit the point Andya. this is what we want. I found it interesting to talk to you about evolution. Muslims should question .

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                    Any Evolutionists (PhD) out there?

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                      Has anybody read the Screw Tape Letters by C.S. Lewis. I found it very informative and really a strange book to read.

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