gay people and islam
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Peace bro "AB"
what is disgusting that others use the honesty of a member sharing a very senstive info with us so we learn from it, against him
what a shame
JK- Thankyou very much for your kind remarks, bro and now that you mention it i start to realize that satan is playing his game even further. But as i said i didnt mind it and i believe i gave adequate replies to those remarks as well. GOD Bless!
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JK- The 1st part i answered already in another reply to you. Regarding lesbianism i never said that it was right BUT it is way not as wrong as male hs because obviously lesbians dont penetrate the anus.
Yes they can jonny with a strap-on wink
Will that be bad as male homosexuality?Regards,
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Peace bro "AB",
Thus we see that God requires death for homosexuality just as he requires death for murder. This tells us that homosexuality is at least equal to the heinousness of murder. All homosexuals should be regarded by every society to be just as much criminals as are cold-blooded murderers.
JK- If you mean for the Christians and Jews if theyr to be loyal to their scriptures then yes otherwise i dont agree since these statements are not found in the Quran. The Quran never commanded us to kill the homos. GOD Bless!
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what is disgusting that others use the honesty of a member sharing a very senstive info with us so we learn from it, against him what a shame
If it was sensitive it should not be declared on a public forum. It was jonny's intention to show the members here that homosexuality is a preferential choice made by an individual...
Regards,
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Peace "LT",
Yes they can jonny with a strap-on wink
Will that be bad as male homosexuality?Regards,
JK- If they do that then yes theyr as bad as a male hs. Here i must add that i clearly see from this how badly influenced women are from men. This shows me that women are infact not so bad by nature as compared to men contrary to what the Bible claims. Men are far more evil by nature i believe. GOD Bless!
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Peace all. I am begining to feel some negative energy on this topic. I also feel some 'going round in circles'. My job is to talk fruitfully and peacefully and respect others.At the end of the day some of these statistics and views are 'subjective'. Why do people keep saying allah says this or quran says this? It is your interpretation which says this,not necessarily allah or the quran. Who is right or wrong in this matter may be shown in time with more knowledge and progress.
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We have seen the bible describing the homosexuals as criminlas in the eye of Allah, here is the Quran doing the excat same of describinig them as criminals
31 He said What is your affair then, O messengers!
32 They said Lo! we are sent unto folks who are CRIMINALS,
33 That we may send down upon them stone of clay,
34 Sent forth from your Lord for the extravagant.
35 Then We brought forth such as were therein of the believers.
36 But We did not find therein save a (single) house of those who submitted (the Muslims).
37 And We left therein a sign for those who fear the painful punishment.
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now if you have a problem of calling them criminals " ", I guess you should take a note of the above 5132 to remind you in your Judgment to argue it with Allah, donlt blame us please because we follow Allah word for word
now in this testing life we know that corrupting the inncocnet children mind is one of the worst crimes and will earn its doer the title "a criminal"
Thanks all
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The terrible influence of the crime of homosexuality also extends itself in the societies by homosexuals being allowed to function in the societies, by them becoming prominent members of communities, and becoming leaders and serving in various positions of government.
This is what the White Supramist said about the Black's in America! So we should remove all these people from position of power and influence?
What about homosexual doctors? Should they be removed from the Emergency Ward?
Regards,
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Peaced "enquirer",
Peace all. I am begining to feel some negative energy on this topic. I also feel some 'going round in circles'. My job is to talk fruitfully and peacefully and respect others.At the end of the day some of these statistics and views are 'subjective'. Why do people keep saying allah says this or quran says this? It is your interpretation which says this,not necessarily allah or the quran. Who is right or wrong in this matter may be shown in time with more knowledge and progress.
Peace and respect to all.JK- Because the Quran is very clear on this
"You practice sex with the men, instead of the women. Indeed, you are a transgressing people."
According to Occam's Razor the sinmplest understranding is most probably the right one and in this case the simplest and in my view only possible answer is that male hs is wrong. GOD Bless! -
The terrible influence of the crime of homosexuality also extends itself in the societies by homosexuals being allowed to function in the societies, by them becoming prominent members of communities, and becoming leaders and serving in various positions of government.
This is what the White Supramist said about the Black's in America! So we should remove all these people from position of power and influence?
What about homosexual doctors? Should they be removed from the Emergency Ward?
Regards,
to be honest I don't care where they work as long as they are away from public schools, period
the hetro parents will never tolerate their filthy influence on our innocent children
I have a lot to say in thiis subject if you want to debate it
i also don't agree with the display of filthy called the yearly mardi crap, we the hetro don't celebrate our sexuality, this clearly means that they are the ones who know it is not normal realizing they fell in its trap and want tp force it on the hetro and their children, the homos are also clear cut HETRO BASHERS
Regards
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Peace "LT",
This is what the White Supramist said about the Black's in America! So we should remove all these people from position of power and influence?
JK- Those people didnt base their racial assertions based on crime. Morover it is clear without a dount that no one chooses to be black or white. But theres no proof at all regarding this for gays.
What about homosexual doctors? Should they be removed from the Emergency Ward?
Regards,
JK- Slowly and gradually while replacing them with other righteous educated doctors, if that society wants to follow GOD by obeying the Quran Alone. GOD Bless!
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The terrible influence of the crime of homosexuality also extends itself in the societies by homosexuals being allowed to function in the societies, by them becoming prominent members of communities, and becoming leaders and serving in various positions of government.
This is what the White Supramist said about the Black's in America! So we should remove all these people from position of power and influence?
What about homosexual doctors? Should they be removed from the Emergency Ward?
Regards,
to be honest I don't care
That is the problem in the world when peopel say "I don't care"...
Regards,
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I believe the Quran also warned against lesbianism in another location
salam
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The terrible influence of the crime of homosexuality also extends itself in the societies by homosexuals being allowed to function in the societies, by them becoming prominent members of communities, and becoming leaders and serving in various positions of government.
This is what the White Supramist said about the Black's in America! So we should remove all these people from position of power and influence?
What about homosexual doctors? Should they be removed from the Emergency Ward?
Regards,
to be honest I don't care
That is the problem in the world when peopel say "I don't care"...
Regards,
well, I didn't say i don't care ..... and stopped
it is you who did that, but nice try though wink
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what I meant is, they can work as doctores, but never ever teachers D
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Peace "AB",
I believe the Quran also warned against lesbianism in another location
salam
JK- Where? GOD Bless!
Salam mate
I believe 415 is about Lesbian relations
Allah knows best bro, it is a very tough verse as well 416
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well, I didn't say i don't care ..... and stopped
There was no need to go any further - rest is just extraneous words on your behalf...stopping at the "I don't care" was the most important bit..
Regards,
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well, I didn't say i don't care ..... and stopped
There was no need to go any further - rest is just extraneous words on your behalf...stopping at the "I don't care" was the most important bit..
Regards,
fine with me, you may send you children to a homo oriented school then, but I guess it must be private, because the hetro parent wills stop the homos from invading our public schools to cotrrupt the innocent children minds
Regards
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Hi all,
There seem to have been emotional responses yet again.
We can discuss peacefully only if we steer clear of such emotional responses.Shame on you gay activist, you acre for the adults homos and you don't give a fluke about the innocent children
There u go. Like I said, I dont think we have any ''gay activists'' in this discussion. The ones who happen to be speaking in favour of non discrimination are those who want to be unbiased and real about truth.
This is what the White Supramist said about the Black's in America! So we should remove all these people from position of power and influence?
JK- Those people didnt base their racial assertions based on crime. Morover it is clear without a dount that no one chooses to be black or white. But theres no proof at all regarding this for gays.
We are talking only of those homosexuals who might have a natural inclination(biological) towards a member of the same sex. These people loathe the idea of being with the opposite sex. So the ''homosexuality'' is deeper than suggestions in their head. its not a choice they make.
Incase u havent read my post earlier, this is from a textbook of neuroscience.
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=73899#73899The main problem the gay acticvist delbert;y turn a blind eye regarding the homos invading our schools to manipulate and corrupt our children innocnet minds
Homos invading children?
What about all the heterosexual ideas invading children at such young age? What about all those young girls lured into sex resulting in teenage pregnancies? In UK, I have found young girls(who are still in schools) being burdened with babies(ofcourse, most cases the guy deserts her coz he doesnt wanna mess his life). Shouldnt they be studying instead of being burdened with sex, boys, pregnancy at such a young age?
What about the innumerable sexual abuses? What about all the paedophilia? What about all those young school children getting raped?And have u also heard of young children being kidnapped or lured to become prostitutes by and for the so called heterosexuals?So, some heterosexuals more than invade young school children with ideas....they force themselves on them.What I am trying to point out is, its not homosexuals or homosexuality that these children are faced with. It's ''sex'' in general. Thats why it is wrong. Coz they are young children. Be it heterosexuals people bothering them or homosexual people. its all wrong. Ur view is biased and thats why u r viewing it as an isolated homosexual picture. I am against any ''sexual influence'' on young children be it homo or hetero.
i also don't agree with the display of filthy called the yearly mardi crap, we the hetro don't celebrate our sexuality, this clearly means that they are the ones who know it is not normal realizing they fell in its trap and want tp force it on the hetro and their children, the homos are also clear cut HETRO BASHERS
I have no clue what ''the yearly mardi'' is. But to adress, ur point that heterosexuals dont celebrate their sexuality, all I can say is ''who are u kidding?'' R u now also turning a blind eye to all those porn magazines, websites, movies etc filled with heterosexual porn?
And for the ''heterobashers'' remark, I think we propably had one homsexual person in this thread and he did no ''hetero bashing''. Tell me how many have been doing ''homo bashing'' here and to what extent?wink Doesnt that tell something?
Like I said before, I am just trying to see the whole thing from a neutral ground without preconcieved notions and ideas. When we have a pre concieved idea, everything will appear so to us.
And just as a last point to those who say heterosexuals are ''criminals'' and Allah says so........I(And I guess, anyone living today) dunno every minute detail of the ''people of lut''. And that being besides the point, Even if u feel homosexuality is a crime on its own, Is it a bigger crime than associating partners with God? If no, then do u remember how Allah in Quran tells us to deal with peaceful idolators? So, we disagree with them on that but yet we leave peacefully , dont we? R we asked by Allah to exile them?
All I will request is.......Calm down and try to think rational, instead of getting so emotional.
There is more to people than their sexual orientation.
Peace!