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what are emotions?

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    unknownuser
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    peace all. Just thinking today,is an emotion an unprocessed idea? (ie a thought you have not yet 'rationalised'). Any comments?

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      An emotion is a physical reaction to a thought i think. We FEEL the thought so to speak. They make our blood pressure and heart rate change, they can change our blood flow, hormone levels, and can even create chemical changes within the body. How we interpret those changes represents our projected reactions. (ei.. we scream, coo, hug, yell, kiss, throw things etc..)

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        unknownuser
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        Peace sawtooth and all. Sounds quite plausible. So we can control our reactions to our emotions?

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          sawtooth
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          You can control your projected reaction, but it is more dificult but not impossible to control the basic physical reaction.

          Think about it. How do you distinguish the difference betwen Love and say embarrasment. Simply by the reaction your body has to the thought or realisation.

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            Peace sawtooth. Can you elaborate a little on the love and embarrassment example. thanks.
            Peace.

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              sawtooth
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              What I mean is, think of the uncontroled physical reactions to either thought.
              embarrassment.... Red face, perhaps tight stomach raised heart rate

              Love.. tingling skin, welling in the chest, raised heart rate, and perhaps a tingling in those "special" places

              I think once the body reacts in an uncontroled way like that, it turns something from thought to emotion.

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                unknownuser
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                Peace sawtooth. Easy. ! Maybe you elaborated a little too much. ops
                Only joking.
                Peace all.

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                  Peace be upon you,

                  An Emotion is Energy in Motion.

                  EVERYTHING in life requires ENERGY to work. In order to wiggle your fingers, energy is required. In order for your heart to beat, energy is required.

                  Emotions are the ANIMAL part of being that provides the energy to manifest thoughts. A thought with strong energy(emotion) behind it is called a "belief".

                  I have much more to say on this topic within the next few days

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                    Peace idol-free and all. And our job is to process(think/rationalise) these energies(emotions) to realise whether they are beneficial or not,then re-act accordingly.(ie follow them as beneficial or dis-regard them as harmful).
                    Peace all.

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                      Peace be upon you Enquirer,

                      And our job is to process(think/rationalise) these energies(emotions) to realise whether they are beneficial or not,then re-act accordingly.(ie follow them as beneficial or dis-regard them as harmful).

                      No Our job is to be at PEACE, this way our response is always PEACE.

                      I will stop here because I dont have the time to write as exstensively as I would like. But I will follow up this weekend

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                        unknownuser
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                        Peace idol-free. I think we are saying the same thing with different words.(or terminology) D
                        peace all.

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                          sawtooth
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                          Peace be upon you,

                          An Emotion is Energy in Motion.

                          EVERYTHING in life requires ENERGY to work. In order to wiggle your fingers, energy is required. In order for your heart to beat, energy is required.

                          Emotions are the ANIMAL part of being that provides the energy to manifest thoughts. A thought with strong energy(emotion) behind it is called a "belief".

                          I have much more to say on this topic within the next few days D

                          So you believe it is the emotion that precedes the thought?

                          This definately has the potential to become quite an interesting discussion

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                            Peace be upon you Sawtooth,

                            So you believe it is the emotion that precedes the thought?

                            The below understanding should clear up my position.

                            Below are the 5 phases or every behavioral event.

                            1. The initaitor of the event which is a situation that comes to the person in the form of a thought, an emotion, an external object, a challenge, etc.

                            2. A reaction to the situation, which is an Automatic Reflex (not meditated by the conscious part of the brain - a "knee jerk" response), that originates in the subconcious. This reaction is composed of three elements.

                            a) A Verbal Thought that purports to explain the situation, evalutae it, explain the action to be taken, and why, etc. "Why is this happening to me", "He is so stupid", etc.

                            b) An Image that shows the potential consequence of the situation, what action to take, etc. "Image of yelling, running away, being sensually involved, etc. "

                            c) An energy which is the essence of the emotional component of the reaction.

                            1. An action or inaction according to the verbal thought, image and energy.

                            2. The result of the action. There is success of failure (relative or absolute) depending on whether the action was in harmony or not with the physical or social environment and the goal's of the person's life.

                            3. The emotional sequel to the result of the action. Accordingly there will be pleasure, peace or pain. If there is pleasure with the potential for peace, then there will be happiness in the persons life, otherwise there will be unhappiness.

                            The KEY to the correct outcome of the five chain of events is in the second phase!

                            We have the ability to REPROGRAM the second part, and this is the purpose of "salaa".

                            One has to get into the most receptive state in order to be effective in reprogramming. This is the Alpha brain wave state which is the MIDDLE state between being awake and sleep. It is this Medi-state that gives us the word "meditate". It is meditation that allows us to "salaa".

                            The Word of the God is not useful to us unless we REMEMBER (knee jerk reflex) the Laws of the God (proper behavior) when we get to the crossroads/challenges of life.

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                              sawtooth
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                              See now I think it takes a thought to trigger the emotional (reflex) reaction.

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                                Peace be upon you Sawtooth,

                                See now I think it takes a thought to trigger the emotional (reflex) reaction.

                                Please elaborate. I am not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing. Number one above states

                                1. The initaitor of the event which is a situation that comes to the person in the form of a thought, an emotion, an external object, a challenge, etc.

                                So there are many "triggers".

                                I want to be clear regarding your response.

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                                  sawtooth
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                                  I blieve the reflex action (IE turning red when embarrassed) does not occer until one acknowledges the instigating factor (something like a woman being told her skirt in tucked into her pantyhose) threough thought.

                                  Consider me disctracted at the moment so I will understand if what I just said did nothing to illustrate my point

                                  But I don't think we are in total disagreement, just maybe a step off.

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                                    Tay
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                                    Peace All,

                                    Nice topic.

                                    Kyle, your 5 step chain reaction is excellent. I agree that step 2 is where the key lies. We must realize that we are always in control of our emotions. Reaction is always based on how we decide to interpret external stimuli, and this is usually based on past experience.

                                    I think the key to peace is to eliminate this past referencing as often as possible, to not judge the situation based on past experiences, but to take every stimulus as a now experience.

                                    An example
                                    You walk into a store and right behind you is another person. You decide to hold the door open for the person. He/she walks through without comment. No "thank you". Do we get pissed off? I mean, how rude, right?
                                    Here I am taking the time and the thought to be nice to my fellow human and he/she acts like I'm the doorman.

                                    See, that's where step 2 comes in. We have a choice in how to react. I held the door open because I wanted to. The person's lack of response has nothing to do with my action. Furthermore, he/she could have simply been distracted in thought, or perhaps unable to speak, or uncomfortable in public, or inflicted with a psychological condition. And of course, there's the possibility that the person is just a jerk.

                                    In either case, our decision in how we interpret the external stimuli affects only our own self. If we decide to get upset, or angry, or bitter, we are left with the residual effect of that emotion. The person whose action initiated this emotion is completely unaffected by our own state.

                                    So what is the point of getting all worked up?

                                    We must realize that the mind conditions itself based solely on the past. We have the ability to change that conditioning every moment that something happens, simply by quieting the mind's routine and becoming self-aware.

                                    Peace,
                                    Tay

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                                      Rhadamanthus
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                                      Peace All...

                                      oops how about this comment
                                      Emotion is a result from a contact between mind and a discerned objects. the process is roughly sketched like this

                                      1. First the awarenss element of mind works like a radar which recognised an existence of object (thanks to the element of Will). Object is described as any entities (material or immaterial) which can be perceived by five senses and mind-imaging including fantasy, dreams, future plans, etc.
                                      2. As the five senses contact with the object, the neuron impulses work and delivered the information to our brain. The Brain which had some unknown connection with our 'mind' transfered this chemical information, and our mind interpreted this as three major things
                                        a. Bad/Ugly
                                        b. Neutral
                                        c. Good/Beautiful
                                      3. Reacting on a) the emotion surge as hatred; reacting to b) neutral emotion aroused (indifference, serenity, etc), and reacting to c) love, likeness, and desire aroused.
                                      4. As the emotion progressed, the mental mechanics moved up to influence our Will (what we do next speak or do? praise or scold? exterminate or maintain or just sit down? bored or interested?) On this junction the key lies that is to recon the mind that react to the emotion; and thus knowing the nature of mind, emotion, contact, object which influence our happiness or sorrow in life. twisted
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                                        Rhadamanthus
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                                        The 'tiny' emotion drives unconscious movement like shifting toes in nervousness, wincing when lies were revealed or any damage taken, shifting hands in the laps in waiting room, pinching the uppermost part of nose in dizziness (usually after removing glasses ), rubbing our chins and sometimes just rubbing cheeks; swinging our leg back and fro in humdrum mood, the movement of eyes in nervy and fear, the smile when we are happy and irritated or forced to smile;

                                        even our eye balls move when we are closing our eyes long enough...
                                        what cause it? wink

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                                          Emotion is a misguided reaction; Emotion is anti-islamic that disturbs peace or salamath.

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