Plastic surgery ... allowed or prohibiteD ?
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Salaam Myr,
For me, all what you wrote above does not reflect the minimum of what should be the behavior, attitude, and thinking of someone who fears Allah, believes in Quran, and is interested in its wisdom.
Please do not be dissuaded by LoteTree's remarks. Just for your information and for all those who are not aware... Lote Tree does NOT believe that quran is the word of God.
I can speak for myself Zenje, I am still capable of stringing few sentences to answer Myr's question -) Let me thus answer in my way
Lote Tree believes - All scriptures are A TRUTH not the WHOLE truth. He believes that scriptures are a Guide to finding God but scripture is not God. And He does not make Idol out of any scripture.
And just like you people have outgrown Hadith and Sunnah, Lote Tree has outgrown all Scriptures.Lote Tree does NOT believe that quran is the word of God.
You say this as if it is something wrong. Let me ask you a question Zenje -Do you believe that you need to believe in Quran in order to believe in God?
Regards,
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Let me ask you a question Zenje -Do you believe that you need to believe in Quran in order to believe in God?
No.Lote Tree does NOT believe that quran is the word of God.
You say this as if it is something wrong.
I just said it like it is. Nothing wrong with that. )Peace
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Salaam Myr,
For me, all what you wrote above does not reflect the minimum of what should be the behavior, attitude, and thinking of someone who fears Allah, believes in Quran, and is interested in its wisdom.
Please do not be dissuaded by LoteTree's remarks. Just for your information and for all those who are not aware... Lote Tree does NOT believe that quran is the word of God.
I also assumed some time ago that he was a believer in quran, but was quickly corrected.
I hope this clears out any misunderstanding.
Peace
Salam Zenje,
Thank you for your message. I think there was a misunderstanding from my part, thinking that this forum is a forum of believers, in other words, Quran is taken seriously but I understand if the audience is not limited to believers.
Thank you again for your message. Peace. Myr. -
Hello Myr,
Salam Lotetree,
No harm done so no need to apologies.oh good -)
I understand your approach of God but I believe you have some misconceptions about fear and hell maybe because of the way you grew up and what you were taught as per your message above.
When you mentioned to Fear Allah, it meant to me God's wrath and punishment in Hell. But I have no complaint about "God" but rather I question our approaches to God. In fact the more I study the beauty and majesty of the Universe and everything in it the more admiration I have for my "God" and more I want to "Love" my "God". And the more I study the spirituality of humans being around the world the more I want to get in touch with my "God".
Regards,
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Peace everyone,
reading these last posts I see the word 'believer' used.
People of this forum are very careful about the words and the labels. The term 'muslim' has been widely discussed, also the terms 'islam', 'messenger', 'quran', and not only the words but even the spelling is very important for members of the forum, for instance, it is not the same to write Messenger than messenger, Quran than quran. and the grammar and morphology are very important too, it is not the same to use a word a a noun, or as an adjective or as a description.
I understand it very well and I join to this concern.
Thus, I would expect the same with the word 'believer' and its corresponding 'unbeliever'.
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ok i m back ... hehehe .. yeah ive thought of getting my nose straightened in the summers .. i mean this bent nose of mine is really putting me down .. i mean i cant really talk to people face to face .. whenever i go out ppl stare at me and i think its cus of my nose .. its really irritating !! i always compare myself to ppl around me who have good noses ... i mean why would God give someone a bent nose ... doenst He know how the person is going to feel who is being given the nose? ... I can even show a pic to u guys and u guys can judge for yourself ... !!!! How do you post pics here ?
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Peace,
You can go to imageshack and u/l your pics, but hmm...did it hurt?!? Is it healed?!? Are you happy now?!? I don't think I could ever consider plastic surgery tbh.
God gives according to a purpose. He takes according to a purpose. We are all born the way that we are and face the trials that we do according to a purpose, a plan if you will. He knows all. I think that's succinct enough.
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Its wrong, if one does it out of desires I believe,,but if its for medical reasons,I dont think God will condemn us..
But whether it is sin or not,does anyone want to take a chance in going to hell forever,just to fullfill their desires for a few yrs.Because it states those that do these things out of desire will go to hell...
004.120
YUSUFALI Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
PICKTHAL He promiseth them and stirreth up desires in them, and Satan promiseth them only to beguile.
SHAKIR He gives them promises and excites vain desires in them; and the Shaitan does not promise them but to deceive.004.121
YUSUFALI They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape.
PICKTHAL For such, their habitation will be hell , and they will find no refuge therefrom.
SHAKIR These are they whose abode is hell, and they shall not find any refuge from it.Peace
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Apparently people say that plastic surgery is allowed in islam if it casuing you psychological, emotional or physical pain. I mean what pleasure does God get by giving people bent noses... ? I mean I am not doing anything wrong... ok i want to become an actor as well but in addition, I just want ppl to stop making comments about my nose even if they are joking and want ppl to stop staring at my nose !!
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I just want ppl to stop making comments about my nose even if they are joking and want ppl to stop staring at my nose !!
Hear hear!!! I want pple to stop staring at my face and not just my nose wink
Regards,