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    SarahY
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    Hmm was just reading.. Ahmad Deedat rejects hadith? never heard that before.. that's interesting because alot of people look up to him.

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      bmbmm
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      Hi Sarah

      The Quran rejects hadith as well.

      Peace

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        SarahY
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        apparently. though if i found the source an authentic source of ahmad deedat rejecting hadith then i guess it would make the community here think. anyway God knows

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          burhan
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          Hmm was just reading.. Ahmad Deedat rejects hadith? never heard that before.. that's interesting because alot of people look up to him.

          Deedat was a big supporter of RK, even wrote a book on code 19.

          Infact that book reached more people than RK's own books.

          But when the fatwas got bit heavy everything he said became a compromise.

          peace.

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            unknownuser
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            Hello

            it seems, from this book that Deedat was a hadith follower

            http//jamaat.net/muslimprayer/prayer.html

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              onepath
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              it doesnt matter if the king of the entire arabia followed the ahadiths,

              because i for one will only follow the guidance of allah
              and only the quran.

              "Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in?" 7185

              when someones quoting me the other human made adhaiths, i just show them this verse and it silences them.

              Always remember that satan will try to not let you understand the quran and persuade you that its not complete and that you need more sources to understand it.

              this is where man has failed, the existance of the other human made ahadiths, is the evidence of satans prestigity.

              Satan is always waiting and watching for the moment to steer you away from the path to allah

              be on your guard...

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                oldninja1187
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                Where did you get that translation from? ?

                The translation from Muhsin Khan states "Do they not look in the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things that Allah has created; and that it may be that the end of their lives is near. In what MESSAGE after this will they then believe?"
                (Al-Araf-185)

                or better yet translation from a number of scholars.
                YUSUFALI Do they see nothing in the government of the heavens and the earth and all that Allah hath created? (Do they not see) that it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what message after this will they then believe?

                PICKTHAL Have they not considered the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and what things Allah hath created, and that it may be that their own term draweth nigh? In what fact after this will they believe?

                SHAKIR Do they not consider the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and whatever things Allah has created, and that may be their doom shall have drawn nigh; what announcement would they then believe in after this?

                It seems like you have complelety twisted the words, and read it completely out of context.

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                  Kashif
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                  This is coming straight from the Arabic Text of the Verse. They leave the word 'Hadith' untranslated.

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace

                    Kashif is right regarding the word hadith

                    peace

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                      zenje
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                      It seems like you have complelety twisted the words, and read it completely out of context.
                      Nothing's twisted, the word remains in it's original form

                      Here's some more examples...

                      These are the ayat of Allah which We recite to you with truth; then in what hadith would they believe after Allah and His ayat? (456)

                      Woe on that day to the disbelievers! So in what hadith after this will they believe? (7749-50)

                      Did they not look at the dominion of heavens and earth, and all that God has created? Perhaps their time is drawing near; so in which hadith after this one will they believe? (7185)

                      And from the people, there are those who accept baseless hadith to mislead from the path of God without knowledge, and they take it as entertainment. These will have a humiliating retribution (316)

                      God has sent down the best hadith, a scripture that is similar in two ways. The skins of those who reverence their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is God's guidance; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whomever God misguides, then none can guide him. (3923)

                      Please abstain from accusations, atleast before you verify the claim, here's a verse that may be of help also

                      O you who believe, if a wicked person comes to you with any news, then you shall investigate it. Lest you harm a people out of ignorance, then you will become regretful over what you have done.(496)

                      Peace be with you

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                        oldninja1187
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                        but are you taking hadith in literal terms? or a message/guidance?

                        I implied you are saying hadith from what the topic is about.

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                          unknownuser
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                          but are you taking hadith in literal terms? or a message/guidance?

                          I implied you are saying hadith from what the topic is about.

                          i believe it is literal term but the context means a message from someone, a hadith from someone to make people believe, therefore it can be a message

                          peace

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                            oldninja1187
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                            my point exactly.

                            JazakAllahkhairun bro.

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