Greetings - I am VERY new
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Salam Sheena,
For God Alone website in malay langguage please visit www.e-bacaan.com
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i dont trust all hadiths but at the same time i cant reject all hadiths in a hurry...i believed religious practises r being handed down from one generation to another...salat is mentioned in da Quran...but how we learn how to do salat is dat we learn it from fellow muslim....
sheena im wondering if i have given up salat? the 5 times a day salat...
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Salam Sheena,
For God Alone website in malay langguage please visit www.e-bacaan.com
salam sri ampang
I think the e bacaan website is good..but i think it should have a forum just like Free minds to gather God-Alone people and let them interact. )
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Salaam to Sheena, Adik Awang, Loli and all,
It's heartening to read such a poignant posting from Sheena. Nothing good is gotten without a test from God, Sheena. I believe this is to test whether you are made of sterner, or lesser, stuff. There are many Quranic verses to support this.
I have been a ' Muslim' (I think) for 6 years now and can be considered fairly active in espousing my views in the Klang valley. Throughout the time I came to know many 'readers' from all over the Peninsular and Singapore. Please email me privately if you need contacts near you.
I have my own egroup [email protected]. It used to be very active at one time until after 'Arab Conspiracies' came out where some of us had such a fiery and ferocious debate and subsequently many signed off thereafter. The egroup is still around and a good place to touch base.
A.
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Peace Ali Imran,
I don't know. I know a lot of people with various beliefs there, moderates, liberals, fundies, sufists, but I don't know if any of them are 'Quran-only Muslim'. At least no one I know had said that to me.
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SALAM SHEENA,
I am from singapore. add me to msn [email protected]
or email me...you can join us for friday prayers or quranic study we got a group of believers here in singapore.Salam.Regards,
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Salam, )
Hey Ali Imran, I thought u were in jail for the Bali bombing hehehe...
Anyway, I personally dont understand about what people like Sheena are going through. When I tell my parents about my belief, they dont get mad, let alone shunning me. Instead, they accept it because they think many of the hadith influenced traditions just dont make sense and superstitious.
Well, maybe it's because we are Indonesians so that we are much less extreme. I wonder if there is anyone from Indonesia who face difficulty from his/her family.
Moreover, I also dont understand why would anybody get shunned by his muslim family just because he wants to follow Al Quran. Such attitude is understandable if the case is he leaves the faith altogether or something.
Oh yeah, I have a question. Is one of the reasons that make arabs idolize Muhammad so much because he is an arab? I get the impression that arab people take Muhammad more like a national hero, so they want him to be the best among other peoples heroes (ReadOther non-arab prophets).
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Salaam Jankren,
Yes I was in Bali a couple of times, but I spent more time at Bali Rock Cafe though
I can understand Sheena's case, which you may not. I agree that Indonesian environment is more open and conducive for contrary thinking, which Quranic thinking is second to none, than say Malaysia or Singapore, or even the South Asian countries for that matter. In Malaysia, I believe it has more to do with political dynamics and racial psychology of the country than truly an issue of faith or belief. In Malaysia, the maxim that Islam is Arab and Arab is Islam holds true and casts in stone. To say otherwise can be construed as an insult or contempt of Islam, a serious offence and punishable depending on the political mood and the religious influence of the priesty class of the day.
And Muhammad is god, spiritually or psychologically, depending on the flavour of the moment. Promoting Quranic messages can be branded and labeled as anti-hadith for good, an immediate and automatic invitation to social outcast. In my case I have lost family members and friends, and I have yet to do it openly or publicly, so much so that at times you tend to question whether it is really worth its while to do all these. But the compliment is that even your detractors can see the change in you, the positive change in mindset, attitude and personality, which otherwise can be a monumental task to undertake.
Have a good day brother. Bisa jumpa disuatu hari nanti..
)A.
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Salaam Jankren,
Well, maybe it's because we are Indonesians so that we are much less extreme. I wonder if there is anyone from Indonesia who face difficulty from his/her family.
If a husband is considered part of the family, we have two members from A-S who experience hardships. (
Dua-duanya sudah tidak pernah posting lagi, mungkin suatu saat bila situasi telah aman.=adley=
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Salaam A.,
And Muhammad is god, spiritually or psychologically, depending on the flavour of the moment. Promoting Quranic messages can be branded and labeled as anti-hadith for good, an immediate and automatic invitation to social outcast. In my case I have lost family members and friends, and I have yet to do it openly or publicly, so much so that at times you tend to question whether it is really worth its while to do all these. But the compliment is that even your detractors can see the change in you, the positive change in mindset, attitude and personality, which otherwise can be a monumental task to undertake.
Bro, that is so sad to hear
Perhaps here is not that bad, but Muhammad is surely a certain type of god. ;D
If Ahmadiyah suffers what they are experiencing in this country, I don't think we can expect anything milder from the so-called Muslims. Perhaps not in Jakarta, but I'm worried about those who live in kampung.=adley=
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Salam,
Hey Ali Imran, I thought u were in jail for the Bali bombing hehehe...
Anyway, I personally dont understand about what people like Sheena are going through. When I tell my parents about my belief, they dont get mad, let alone shunning me. Instead, they accept it because they think many of the hadith influenced traditions just dont make sense and superstitious.
Well, maybe it's because we are Indonesians so that we are much less extreme. I wonder if there is anyone from Indonesia who face difficulty from his/her family.
Salaam,
LOL I'm not an malayu but I think it's ok that I comment something, but I have been married with an malay man before!!!
The malay people seems to be very fund of their rituals, so if a God Alone followers explain he don't do salat 5 times a day and not doing the ritual bowing and prostrating, then they see u as an kafir, yes they do, they can't accept it.
My ex husband he became frustrated when he found out that I didn't performed 5 times salat and not performed it the traditional way.It lead to our marriage came to an end. He didn't respect me and wanted to force me back to the traditional islam and I refused his wishes.
Peace Sis Maria
Moreover, I also dont understand why would anybody get shunned by his muslim family just because he wants to follow Al Quran. Such attitude is understandable if the case is he leaves the faith altogether or something.
Oh yeah, I have a question. Is one of the reasons that make arabs idolize Muhammad so much because he is an arab? I get the impression that arab people take Muhammad more like a national hero, so they want him to be the best among other peoples heroes (ReadOther non-arab prophets).
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Salams sheena! Kudos to oyu for having the courage to tell your family, I haven't been able to tell minds yet. I think I need to be more mentaly prepared and ready to answer any question they fire at me. anyway, I have been to Singapore twice! It is one of my favourite places, it is so beuatiful and so CLEAN! ;D Your lucky to live there! I have been to Jakarta and Bandung aswell (my stepmum is Indonesian.)
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Salaam Majidah,
Oh yeah, I have a question. Is one of the reasons that make arabs idolize Muhammad so much because he is an arab? I get the impression that arab people take Muhammad more like a national hero, so they want him to be the best among other peoples heroes (ReadOther non-arab prophets).
Hmmm... that is a possibility. But it is even more wondrous why non-Arabs (read my fellow countrymen) also idolize him so much. Sometimes even greater than our national heroes. ;D
=adley=
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peace sheena,
All my love and support is yours. I know exactly what you are going through you are definately not alone in this struggle as many here will tell you. You may email me anytime if you are feeling down, or isolated or just want to get things off your chest. I recommend keep turning to the quran and remembering Allah much.
love and peace xxx
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I just registered today.
I have been raised a sunni & have now began reading the Quran & turning slowly into a Quranic only believer.
Unfortunately my family members & friends have labelled & shunned me.
They called me a kafeer.
I am just seeking solace from friends out there sharing the same fate.
At least I do not feel alone.**** I have repeatedly tried getting in touch with Zakaria - the so called Spore coordinator but
I am not getting any reply from him.Can somebody just talk to me?
As salamu alaykum.
Respectfully.You must stay patient.
Patience is a good virtue of every believer.
I know it's hard but rely on God and you'll succeed.As salamu alaykum.
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salam alaykum
i wasnt raised muslim but christian and i do know how it feels to leave your families ideal of what the right way is
i too know how it feels to be labeled as one who is in the wrong way and misguided and oging to hell by there standards
you are not alone i understand here is somehting i have learned throught time
u cant change hearts, no matter how close u r to a person, u can't make them see what u see, make them learn what u learn... u have to wait patiently for them to learn through their individually prescribed destinies"
hope that helps
amanda
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Salam ~
Twist of fate (absent mindedness) I am now Isis ~ though I am Sheena the lady who started this. Seemed to have forgotten even my Id and password ~
Thanks for being very supportive of me.
At present, I really have nothing construe to say(type). but God willing, I shall post more in future (take this as my blog page) laughs
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