Power of HEART and social structure of Islam
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Peace alpha97 and all.
Thanks brother for a nice writing. It is enlightning as usual.
The answer to your last question is NO!
What, then, makes the prophets different from us? What should be my response to the Prophets, and specially to Muhammad, due to such difference between them/him and me?
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Peace alpha97 and all.
Thanks brother for a nice writing. It is enlightning as usual.
The answer to your last question is NO!
What, then, makes the prophets different from us? What should be my response to the Prophets, and specially to Muhammad, due to such difference between them/him and me?
Peace brother Parshant-kumar, All
What, then, makes the prophets different from us?
Their level of awareness! And that GOD chose to use them as Medium for two tasks
1- To bring us the message.
2- To show us how the message is used and translated into the real world. (Wisdom)Prophets were just like us simple humans! but all of them had extraordinary childhood and life which gave them the opportunity to grow in purity of soul and richness of wisdom.
Humans are granted different levels of consciousness! based on the status of their souls.Each of us at any given moment is residing on one certain level of consciousness. This level contains two vantage points. We always look from Two vantage points the vantage point of HEART and the vantage point of MIND.
When we get aware that earth is rotating around the sun and that our senses are deceiving us, We reach a higher awareness in our minds. In reality this just changes our vantage point of MIND. We look from different point of view.
When we get aware that feeding birds in the nature is a joyful activity. In reality this just changes our vantage point of our HEART. We experience from different point of being.
We have a lot to learn from prophets! Muhammad was the walking Quran of his time! And for those principles which are timeless, prophets are the personage of the message!
Quran starts revealing itself, As our awareness start elevating. (2-2, 2-3). NOT BEFORE THAT. There is a need for an awakend soul to grasp the message and that awakened soul recognizes also which Hadith is authentic and which not!
But the Purpose of All The creation, the book , the prophets are all the same. TO AWAKEN US TO THE PRESENCE OF HIS ALMIGHTY! AND UNLEASH OUR GROWTH! TO LET US BECOME IMMORTAL!
peace
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@ alpha97
?What, then, makes the prophets different from us?
Their level of awareness! And that GOD chose to use them as Medium for two tasks
1- To bring us the message.? (Quote from alpha97)As you mentioned ?us?, I consider that I am also one that includes in ?us?.
The message should be in the form of language. At this point I would like to discuss the issues connected with language, its limitations and the relative advantages of language.
(a) A linguistic message shall have a textual presentation. Grammar and usage of a word is important here. It is not impossible that the general meaning of a text was clear to the Prophet and the people addressed by him. If some one got difficulty, it is reasonable to think that he would have discussed the matter with those who knew. It is always possible to make extended and deeper understanding of the meaning of the text by others. It is also possible that one may completely change the meaning and take some allegorical or too literalistic connotation that may not been the actual meaning. It is the case of changing the meaning. The connotation or intelligence in the text should be that which the Prophet and the forerunners among the companions understood. It is also not impossible that people changed the text itself.
(b) The proper understanding of the meaning of a text is dependent on the basic principles and the capacity to understand of a reader who do not have the opportunity of listening and understanding the text right from the Prophet. I certainly get myself entangled with history. There is a great problem with history too. But the problems associated with history can not lead me to deny it completely. If I do so I shall loose all grounds to even take a decision based on principle of induction and deduction. In the case of deduction, I consider the first two premises successively and then make the conclusion. When I make conclusion, I am to depend on my memory. Similar is the case with induction. I observe particular events, then I analyze, then I make induction to a general principle. I depend on memory, books written by others etc. All these are in fact history.
(c) Let us now compare a linguistic message to a message put is a sculpture or a paint. The later way has got some advantages. Yet I see that linguistic messages are much more easy to decipher the intelligence and has got much more objectivity. If some artist provides me with an art and a letter that describes his message in the art, I shall certainly look into the both and shall take the linguistic one as primary or the criteria. Because I may make myself a fool or deceived by rejecting the letter or by not considering the letter first. If the art is an intricate one, I shall certainly not take pride on my ability to understand the art directly while the letter is at my hand.
With due considerations on these points, the next natural questions shall be the following
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Is the message received by Prophet Muhammad, preserved intact by the people through generation after generations? If no, A Muslim just can not wipe out the history and simply say ?This is the Book from your Lord and take it as I interpret it, or interpret it yourself as your wish?.
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Is the general connotation of the terms that constitute at least the vital philosophy and the basic social structure founded by the Prophet himself has been preserved by the people generation after generation? If no, shall it not be logical for me to wait for another messenger?
What is your opinion in this regard?
?2- To show us how the message is used and translated into the real world. (Wisdom).? (Quote from alpha97)
I wish to have the opportunity to discuss this matter later.
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Peace Prashant-kumar,
We are asked to reason and think but connect it to our hearts as its center.If that does not happen our reason and thoughts will be used for other purposes
We will get intellectual.
We will become hypocrite
We will exploit other people
We will use it to collect wealth
We will use it to defeat others
We will go stray. We will get in love with the world and ourSELVES.Within the centrum of human there is a real soul and that soul is a knower. Quran teaches us how to awaken that. (2-2/2-3)
- Generate Faith in THE UNSEEN.
- Clean your soul with prayer
- Take care of others and fill the gaps of your society
There is no Lingu trick that can stand in the way.
The real soul recognizes VERY SIMPLE . He knows that MESSAGE OF RESURRECTION is not about the rise of Jesus-discussion. , He understands that It is about the next evolution of the world when our souls will become a higher being. It is about meeting HIS HIGHNESS , If we have become gracious enough to deserve that. That is very simple and clear.
I see many discussions among sects. But their discussion points are about that kind of detail which they can afford to chat about. They don't have a linguistic problem. Their eyes can not function yet. The truth is there.
peace,
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peace alpha97,
Generate Faith in THE UNSEEN.
how do i verify faith in the unseen? i am sure it branches off into different categories as well... for example what we cannot percieve from our dimension which we live in and the future! aren't they unseen?
is the unseen scientifically approved by human nature in general? or believing in the unseen could lead you to astray? for example the sunnis believe certain things will happen in the future and that's not part of the quran?
please clarify yourself if you think that you are clear.
faith in god is not faith in the unseen because there is evidence that god exists... we are not by chance... we are not from nothing... understand my confusion here ;D
peace, rifat
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If that does not happen our reason and thoughts will be used for other purposes
We will get intellectual.
We will become hypocrite
We will exploit other people
We will use it to collect wealth
We will use it to defeat others
We will go stray. We will get in love with the world and ourSELVES.From all your answers, I feel that you are very much committed to the Quran and the Prophet. But you are just reluctant in uttering these things. I thought and thought why you are so. May be that you are too concerned. I observed in my own life and the lives of other people that we remain engaged in making large hue and cry for Quran, Prophet, Islam etc. forgetting our Lord and being concernless about our own ultimate destiny. The commotion is so big that my Lord and my destiny gets buried in it, and the commotion fails to benefit me, rather harms me, as my approach is from the reverse and wrong direction. I got my best lessons from you. May Allah bless you, my brother.
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Peace Rifat,
If one purifies his soul in prayer and action, he is not to worry! GOD will guide him. he will not be sent stray. GOD HIMSELF will take care of that! If some people are gone stray, also GOD made them to go stray based on the status of their souls. It is very simple.
peace,
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peace alpha97,
well, but that doesn't mean that the truth and the purification of the soul is the same for everyone, does it?
is the sunni traditional salat for everyone? i gave it up for "personal reasons" even though no one told me to...
peace, rifat