maliki yawm id-deen
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Peace everyone,
This may have been discussed before, elsewhere, without me noticing, so I just wanted to bring it up, and check it with you more present people.
It is about the meaning of MALIKI YAWM ID-DEEN as in sura 1.It is traditionally translated as something like "master of the day of judgement", and I guess that?s alright. I'm really a novice in this, and I don't know arabic, but I seem to see another parallel meaning to this. I just wanted to know if this is a well known and "well documented" meaning.
"maliki yawm iddeen" can, in my opinion, also mean "master of the period of deen", in which "period of deen" would be our entire lives. It is a well established opinion that we are in this earthly life to follow a good deen in order to remain on the right side and in the end of the period have a net plus in our books. So this understanding would render the meaning that God is the malik of our lives, the period which purpose is the right deen. This meaning has the ability to make our fleeting life seem a bit more important.... our life is not just a yawm but a yawm iddeen, and God almighty is the malik of this yawm, which may be seen as very comforting. It so means that God is there for us, God is present, God is the malik in our lives, God is close, God sees you!
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Brother,
Quran explains the terms used by it. Please see verses 673; 20108-109; 2256; 23115-116; 2526; 4016. And if you read 1535 and 3878 alongwith 1536 and 3879 it will become clear that no other meanings could be assigned to this term except the day when people will be revived to life.
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Sometimes there appear mushtarak lafdhee words in the Qur?an, that sound and are written the same as one another, but appear to be somewhat different in meaning, and it is sometimes difficult to make a link between the various meanings or draw them back to an original meaning. An example of this the word ?deen? in the following verses
He could not take his brother by the law of the king (as a slave), except that Allah willed it.
Sovereign of the Day of Judgment
The word ?deen? comes from the root daal-yaa?-noon - - , and the basic meaning of the word is submissiveness and obedience.
Thus, the word ?deen? in its most well-known meaning of ?creed? is so called because one submits to the tenets of the creed and obeys them.
And if you look at Surah Yusuf, verse 76 (above), the word ?deen? is being used in its original meaning of obedience, for to follow the law of the king necessarily implies obedience to the king.
It is also possible to take the etymological process one step further and looked for a shared meaning between derivates of the mushtarak lafdhee. For example, the word ?Madeenah? (meaning ?city?) comes from the same root as deen, and is so called because the concept of a city is based around obedience to its ruler, or person in charge.
http//arabicgems.wordpress.com/2007/04/01/submit-and-obey/
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Peace,
Mazhar and RasulHamza, thank you for the clarifications and references to specific ayats... that's exactly what I wanted, it was helpful. That idea of mine just popped up in my mind and since I really have no background in studies of the arabic language and the language of the quran, I thought I'd turn to you guys for some input... which I also got. Thanks.
However, I don't know who is "giving strange opinions and spreading confusion" o ??? '( . Considering my lack of skill in arabic, my opinion was not strange at all. Even though perhaps only one meaning can be derived from those words, my flamed "meaning" makes sense otherwise, even if it can't be read in the quran. I was also not spreading confusion. I wasn't spreading anything, except a question. I was doing the opposite. I wanted to clarify things and learn from other people's knowledge. I hope it was not a huge crime. Maybe one should be perfect in knowledge before asking humble questions, but I'm not a jedi of quranic crossreference and interpretation yet...
and, sorry, if I misunderstood those words.
peace
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peace
i know some groups believe that yawm al-deen is the life time-I think the Nation of Islam is one and some sufis,
Ill try to explain that view
in 1534 satan is expelled from the paradise and 1535 he is cursed untill yawn al-deen-or the period when they follow the law(deen) at which point the curse is lifted, satans is in all people so they have to be controlled so when they are sucessfully controlled you are safe.
1536-7 satan is granted respite until yawm al-yubathoon- the period when all of lifes work is being done and done and it will be shown to god
and until this is done iblis(our bad inner impulses) will try to lead us astray256 But We raised you again after you had been dead, so that you might have cause to be grateful.
The ressurection of these people were clearly in their lifetimes on earth, God showed them what they needed to be truely alive.
6122 THEN -HE who was dead and whom We thereupon gave life, and for whom We set up a light whereby he might see his way among menI pretty much believe that the quran yawm doesnt just mean one day at the end of the world or our lives but the peroid of time humans are on earth-since god created the heavens and earth in six days we dont believe these to be six literally days but six periods and the seventh day is our(people) lives
and this
there can be no period more well know then our lives, since this is used to described in 2638 and 26155 as time that is well to all in the comunity if this is about the end of the world no one knows this.8311 those who give the lie to the yawm al-deen
8312 for, none gives the lie to it but such as are wont to transgress against all that is immersed in sin
it could be seen here as one who would give the lie to a life of following the deen they would would more likely transgress(muaatad) and sin(athim) because they deny moral law
since not all kufar are aggressors(60 8 ) this cant be about people who dont believe in the day of judgement but people who reject moral laws by transgressing against innocent people are all denying moral code irregardless of what they claim to believe, like the people in sura 107 -
Peace everyone,
This may have been discussed before, elsewhere, without me noticing, so I just wanted to bring it up, and check it with you more present people.
It is about the meaning of MALIKI YAWM ID-DEEN as in sura 1.It is traditionally translated as something like "master of the day of judgement", and I guess that?s alright. I'm really a novice in this, and I don't know arabic, but I seem to see another parallel meaning to this. I just wanted to know if this is a well known and "well documented" meaning.
"maliki yawm iddeen" can, in my opinion, also mean "master of the period of deen", in which "period of deen" would be our entire lives. It is a well established opinion that we are in this earthly life to follow a good deen in order to remain on the right side and in the end of the period have a net plus in our books. So this understanding would render the meaning that God is the malik of our lives, the period which purpose is the right deen. This meaning has the ability to make our fleeting life seem a bit more important.... our life is not just a yawm but a yawm iddeen, and God almighty is the malik of this yawm, which may be seen as very comforting. It so means that God is there for us, God is present, God is the malik in our lives, God is close, God sees you!
QXP Quran translation by Dr.Shabbir
14 (He is) the Absolute Owner of the Day when all creation shall have
completed their journey of existence, action and evolution to the
Ultimate Just outcome. And He is the Supreme Appointer of the System
of Life that mankind may live by in order to attain success in both lives.
All decisions in this System will be made according to Divine commands
given in this Book. And this System will most certainly prevail over all
manmade systems in this world. The Divine law of Just Recompense is
gradually taking mankind to the Day of Final Judgment in His Court to
account for all they did with their gift of life. This is a Day the advent of
which is beyond any doubt. -
Salamoun!
I think the problem for the meaning is located in the translitteration
Ma-lik yawm eddine
or malik yawm eddine.
Ma-lik means in arabic the OWNER
Malik means the KING.
I think that the first meaning is the right one.
Yawm eddine has the meaning according to the Koran it self. Eddine means the debt since the man has a debt related to God.yawn eddine appears to be the equivalent of the day of the last judgement.yawn eddineis a figure of speach called synecdoche.Peace everyone,
This may have been discussed before, elsewhere, without me noticing, so I just wanted to bring it up, and check it with you more present people.
It is about the meaning of MALIKI YAWM ID-DEEN as in sura 1.